Media Aspinall: I am ready to move on from Jones

mkess101 said:
So many less words are needed to let everyone know you're a clown. Think of all the balloon animals you could make with the extra time from being concise!

Instead your retarded ass is claiming Jones already signed to fight IFW vs Tom. Literally you're a joke, a punchline. Nothing more.
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The fight between luffy, shadow mong and icemun to be the biggest and most ridiculous ass clown on this thread is stronger than the fight within Jon Jones these days
 
Superzorro said:
They’re exactly the same thing. Whittaker was even the interim champion. Neither fought the interim champion at the time or any fighter considered to be a legitimate contender. You just like GSP. That’s the only difference.
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No, not even close.

GSP was retired. He came out of retirement to fight Bisping and win a second belt. He then had health issues and retired again.

He didn't sit around and claim to be the champion while refusing to fight anyone and taunt Whittaker on social media.
 
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Ares Black said:
Except that Aspinall is willing to fight Jones. Seems like a pretty important distinction, no?
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Jones is willing to fight aspinall, and he will. I genuinely and truly believe this. The UFC just has to pay. And if they wont pay, strip him. The fact that they haven't stripped him yet, tells me that have something loosely worked out. I assume this fight will be in madison square garden this fall.
 
RockyLockridge said:
Jones is willing to fight aspinall, and he will. I genuinely and truly believe this. The UFC just has to pay. And if they wont pay, strip him. The fact that they haven't stripped him yet, tells me that have something loosely worked out. I assume this fight will be in madison square garden this fall.
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You can believe whatever you want. I believe that Jones is clearly ducking Aspinall.
 
The fact that Jones isn't in prison, much less still allowed to fight in the UFC & call himself "champion", is not only an endightment on the UFC, but also the United States.

Imagine a regular dude doing all the shit he's done & where he would be right now. You can do whatever you want in this country if you are rich and/ or famous.
What a joke.
 
ShadowRun said:
whos ranked number 1 in the division just curious since you want to go by official ranks and play semantics.
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The guy who holds the belt is automatically number one, which doesn't mean much when the guy that holds the belt refuses to fight.
I'll take the guy with 5 top 10 wins in the first round over the guy with one good win in the division, over 2 years ago. Most fighters have openly said the same and view Tom as the legitimate heavyweight champion
 
RockyLockridge said:
I said the same thing to people who said jones would fight at HW, I said he would never. I was wrong, and I shut up and ate my crow.

If I'm wrong here I will do the same.

Will you?
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Yes, but it has already gone on so long that it's ridiculous. He is a middle-aged man at the end of his career. Of course he doesn't want to fight a real HW in his prime.

Could the UFC pay him enough to accept a fight he will most likely lose badly? Maybe. But he is such a delusional narcissist that I think his undefeated record is more important to him than any reasonable amount of money.

He's ducking Aspinall until the real HW champion gives up waiting and then he'll accept some bullshit fight or maybe officially retire. He's pretty much retired already, he just likes pretending that he's the HW champion. He's just not interested in actually proving it.
 
RockyLockridge said:
ok so if they'll get the jones fight signed, why should jones be stripped?
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Danas been telling him that but nothing is happening.

Jones is out partying in Thailand has no intention to sign a fight said instead he's "Just living his best life".
 
Ares Black said:
Yes, but it has already gone on so long that it's ridiculous. He is a middle-aged man at the end of his career. Of course he doesn't want to fight a real HW in his prime.

Could the UFC pay him enough to accept a fight he will most likely lose badly? Maybe. But he is such a delusional narcissist that I think his undefeated record is more important to him than any reasonable amount of money.

He's ducking Aspinall until the real HW champion gives up waiting and then he'll accept some bullshit fight or maybe officially retire. He's pretty much retired already, he just likes pretending that he's the HW champion. He's just not interested in actually proving it.
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Jon is in a wholly unique situation and I think most people dont like acknowledging that.


Yes, Jones is very obviously dragging his heels about this fight, but he's doing everything he can to secure his future. He's fought for a LONG time and personally, It's my belief that if he wants 25 million dollars the ufc SHOULD give it to him. Jones is playing hard ball harder than he's ever had to before. This is absolutely his last ride and while we all want things to move along like normal, we have to acknowledge that jones is a 1 of 1 and there are no other fighters who have the pull that he should have. He's going to get more leeway and its completely reasonable that he does. the UFC just needs to pay the bill and all will be well.
 
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RockyLockridge said:
Jon is in a wholly unique situation and I think most people dont like acknowledging that.


Yes, Jones is very obviously dragging his heels about this fight, but he's doing everything he can to secure his future. He's fought for a LONG time and personally, It's my belief that if he watns 25 million dollars the ufc SHOULD give it to him. Jones is playing hard ball harder than he's ever had to before. This is absolutely his last ride and while we all want things to move along like normal, we have to acknowledge that jones is a 1 of 1 and there are no other fighters who have the pull that he should have. He's going to get more leeway and its completely reasonable that he does. the UFC just needs to pay the bill and all will be well.
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The problem is precedent.

The UFC is built on maintaining the UFC brand and having the individual fighters under that. If they dramatically overpay for Jones' last fight, that opens the gate to other fighters to argue that they deserve more.

I mean, that's already happening, but a huge payday would make it worse.

I do think that fighters should be paid more, but I'm far more concerned about the bottom of the pay scale than the very top.

I just don't think Jones is worth what he wants to be paid, and clearly neither does the UFC.
 
Ares Black said:
The problem is precedent.

The UFC is built on maintaining the UFC brand and having the individual fighters under that. If they dramatically overpay for Jones' last fight, that opens the gate to other fighters to argue that they deserve more.
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I don't see it.

all the UFC has to say "Win 17 title fights and we'll talk"

No futher conversations will be had.
 
muaythaibeast said:
Jones beat Gane nearly 2 years before he fought Stipe. If Jones had beat Gane and retired almost immediately and allowed the division to move on, this discussion wouldn't be happening.
Jones not unifying the belt isn’t the issue, it's not unifying the belt whilst also refusing to relinquish it.
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Like I said, I don’t see how this would make any difference to the way his career is viewed in terms of accomplishments compared to GSP. We’re also going to have to be accurate.
Stipe vs Jones was booked the same year that Gane vs Jones happened (March 4th, 2023 versus November 11th 2023). You’re just leaving out the fact that Jones sustained a serious injury before it happened. You tried it though.


GrantB13 said:
But he vacated the title though?
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If you’re going to jump into a discussion, you have to be aware of the context. This is in reference to implications on how it would affect his resume/ legacy.

Ares Black said:
No, not even close.

GSP was retired. He came out of retirement to fight Bisping and win a second belt. He then had health issues and retired again.

He didn't sit around and claim to be the champion while refusing to fight anyone and taunt Whittaker on social media.
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GSP was out for four years before he came back. Jones was out for three years before he came back.
Jones last fought in November and this fight is still being negotiated. So what exactly is the difference again? That Jones actually defended his belt? But this is a plus for GSP and a minus for Jones? This is just another case of rules for thee but not for me.

Like I’m just trying to frame this right in my head.
Old Bisping and dipping > Gane + Old Stipe and dipping? It’s the same thing.
 
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HockeyBjj said:
Yeah it was a paycheck. But it's done nothing to pressure Jones to fight him, or Pressure the UFC to strip Jones if he won't fight Aspinall before 2026
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so what

If tom believes hes the best, he should be fighting everyone

Why wait around for Jones?
 
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