Palm came up before knee landed. Only fingertips touching. Barely.
"A grounded opponent is any fighter who has more than just the soles of their feet on the ground. (i. e. could have one shin or
one finger down to be considered a downed fighter)
Yes, that is what we all see. Thank you.
Palm was not "down because Movsar was grounded."
Palm was down because Movsar was "playing that game."
Palm was not down when knee landed.
Maybe you're obsessed with the palm because it's the only girlfriend you've ever had, but to a ref, that doesn't matter.
He is by the definition the rules they fight by set, however much we both dislike it.
Movsar was backpedaling on his feet while swiping at the ground because Allen headlocked him and was driving him across the ring while kneeing him in the head.
All of this occurred because Movsar went for a single and lost it and paid the typical price, only Movsar tried to avoid the price by "playing that game."
Yeah, Movsar took damage by playing that game. And Allen's position was taking away because of that game. And it's not against the rules, despite how much you kept saying that it was.
@karen Bandido
Movsar WAS soft.
Happens to everyone every now and then.
Give him a time machine and tell him he can rerun it. See if he makes the same mistake twice.
That's fine. I didn't say he wasn't. I'm just calling out your hypocrisy.
Movsar IS a badass.
Trying to save face? WTF are you on about? Grasping at straws it seems.
Exhibit A. Remember that the reason you're calling me out in specific is because of how you were specifically calling Movsar a
cheater. Do you remember that? You were saying that he broke the rules and you couldn't actually point that out when asked about it. Instead, you just took this bitch-made argument to this thread later and fully changed your tune. Ya hypocrite.
i AM judging Movsar for attempting to "play that game" of fake grounding instead of choosing to either defend himself intelligently or drop to a knee to remove any doubt that he was grounded.
It's not a lifetime judgment.
And I'm sure he doesn't give a shit. Losing would mean he gets less money, doesn't progress the way he would to get more money in future contracts, and doesn't get closer to a title shot, which could earn him more money and reputation. The fact that you repeatedly ignore the ruleset (an objective argument) so you can throw out your opinion of the man (a subjective argument) is something I'd imagine is totally lost on > 90% of fighters.
It was a puss move that his friends will kid him about and that he is unlikely to repeat in the future He ate four Allen knees to the head and sat there dazed and bleeding while Goddard gave him a freebie. That's not a lesson that anyone is likely to forget, ever. Allen is not a 6 year old girl. That shit hurt, and is probably still sore today, plus Movsar probably is not stupid, so he probably knows that he has a limited number of concussions he can eat before he becomes stupid, and Allen just fed him one.
Doubtful. If he is in a position to take advantage in the future then he, like most fighters, will try to have that advantage, and you speak from the perspective of someone who clearly hasn't trained or has never even pictured themself as a fighter.
Props to Movsar for getting up and fighting after his ref rescue. Neither man quit. They went at it.
Right, should be pretty easy for a cheater to continue, right?
I'm a moron?
Honestly, it doesn't seem like I'm a moron.
A moron
would be unable to see that, yes.
I do like how you so willingly embraced the Karen moniker.
If the purse fits...
You came up with the name, because you want to bitch about something. You're angry at me because you had to run away from the last argument, because you're a bitch. You also called me it here without quoting or tagging me, because you're a bitch. And you continue to do it, because you're a bitch. And not once do you bring up any kind of objective argument to your hypocritical bullshit, because you're a bitch. So if someone fits the moniker, I think I got just the guy for it
Kneeing Movsar in the head did not lose Allen the fight.
In fact, the knees were winning him the fight until Goddard intervened.
Ah, probably because they weren't legal. Yeah, fights get stopped when the illegal things happen. I think that's the main part that you intentionally keep missing.
If the rules are different in some places than others, then we don't actually have any unified rules, do we?
Maybe your position would be improved if you referred to them as fake unified rules.
No we don't. I've said that. Matter of fact, I've been the #1 poster in this forum reminding people that the rules aren't unified. They just happened to be called the unified rules. I didn't name them. But you're acting like I made and created them because you're a moron.
Keep waving that paper, so to speak.
No one is questioning what the Ontario rules were on that night.
You sure seem to be in ignorance of them, since you keep referring to them as if they don't exist.
The discussion persists because everyone hates the fake-grounding puss move because it gives fighters an incentive to do something other than intelligently defending themselves, and, because it leaves even the best refs in a truly difficult position as evidenced by the entire Allen-knee event, and, because it's a Karenpuss move.
Yeah, agreed. I've said that several times. But that's not why
our discussion persists. Our discussion persists because of two main, already addressed points. 1) That you are a moron. & 2) That you are a bitch.
If you want to be grounded, then get grounded.
Don't be swiping at the floor in some lame attempt at misusing a rule to avoid strikes while refusing to actually defend against the strikes.
Heeey! You learned it's the rules! Congrats. Now this conversation can stop.
Wave it boy.
Wave that paper.
I'll be waving that paper like this
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