Armatix Smart Gun

[ruthless robert]

sorry i got caught up in debate and thought this was in the gun rights mega thread

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[Groundmaster]

im sorry but im not a lil bitch....


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See my post as to what concerns manliness - and forget that this is exactly what you should do according to every and any expert.

Actually I do not tell you to do anything. I only tell you that:

- having weapons does not protect you or your family members it endangers them
- running away and living to be continuously able to care for your loved ones might bet making a stand and getting shot in the long run

What you do with these facts is up to you though.

And Bob sorry to say but you are an intellectually incapable troll wannabe and I feel that I have now spent enough time with your little games. Good bye.

 

[Groundmaster]

it makes a ton of sense....
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No. You do not seem to get it but no and now really good bye.

 

[ruthless robert]

sorry i got caught up in debate and thought this was in the gun rights mega thread

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[ruthless robert]

Thats debatable ,now move to an extreme nut job thread, quit talking your crap in here.

You offer nothing to the Armatix debate.

ehh, think what you want about me but i would like to state that you have said nothing about the 2 Eric Holder videos I've posted and I'm sure many people would like to know your opinion about those 2 Eric Holder videos ESPECIALLY SINCE HE'S TALKING ABOUT THIS VERY ELECTRONIC DEVICE YOU STARTED THIS THREAD FOR.

so why not give us your 2 cents on the very subject matter you care so much to start a thread over? do you agree with Eric Holder? disagree? whats your stance on his statement in those videos concerning your electronic gun device?

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[spamking]

Guns are only a part of my life in a negative way. When I visualize someone holding a gun, it's not me pointing it at a deer or whatever. It's someone threatening me or my family. To me, guns symbolize violence and misery and not much else. Certainly not freedom. Not having to worry about being shot by my fellow citizens would be much more freeing than owning a gun.

That has got to be one of the most skewed points of view I've heard. You really need to change the channel from Law and Order to get a different exposure to guns.

Responsible gun owners are some of the best people in the world. I'm not saying that owning a gun makes them a part of that group . . .

Hunting is one of the best hobbies/activities a person can become involved in IMO.

Someone who immediately goes to feeling threatened by the thought of a gun has issues IMO.

 

[spamking]

Not really. Pretty big power differential between a guy with a knife and a guy with a gun. I could outrun the knife guy most likely, or at least have a fighting chance if I had to fight. If you have a gun and decide to kill me, I'm probably dead. Acting as if they're equivalent is beyond asinine.

Acting like everyone with a gun is planning to shoot you is equally as asinine.

 

[ABACA]

which ones? related to 2 and close friends with 3. Im also an FFL dealer and I specialize in high end AR's so im lucky enough to deal with/make friends with all kinds of vets.

but you're getting off track here, i would suggest watching the 2 short vids i posted above

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You must have some strong feelings on clubbing.

What orca control policies do you think we should implement?

 

[Groundmaster]

That has got to be one of the most skewed points of view I've heard. You really need to change the channel from Law and Order to get a different exposure to guns.

I think his POV is at least as sane as the only guns can bring freedom crowds (who should change the channel from FOX news

Responsible gun owners are some of the best people in the world. I'm not saying that owning a gun makes them a part of that group . . .

And that is the problem right here. All gun owners are some of the (potentially) most dangerous ppl in the world unfortunately owning a gun does make you part of that group.

Hunting is one of the best hobbies/activities a person can become involved in IMO.

Depends on the hunt for me but its a great excuse to go romping in the woods.

 

[Groundmaster]

Acting like everyone with a gun is planning to shoot you is equally as asinine.

I think he knows that hence the use of

If you have a gun and decide to kill me

 

[Uchi Mata]

Acting like everyone with a gun is planning to shoot you is equally as asinine.

Not every poisonous snake is going to bite me, but I still avoid them all. Why? Because they're dangerous. A person with a gun is inherently more dangerous than a person without one simply because they've upped their power to cause harm considerably. You can of course argue that they're only dangerous if they decide they want to hurt someone, but I don't want to count on someone else's forebearance for my safety.

 

[ruthless robert]

Not every poisonous snake is going to bite me, but I still avoid them all. Why? Because they're dangerous. A person with a gun is inherently more dangerous than a person without one simply because they've upped their power to cause harm considerably. You can of course argue that they're only dangerous if they decide they want to hurt someone, but I don't want to count on someone else's forebearance for my safety.

those damn cops.... they need to stop carrying guns on duty, they keep shooting themselves on accident every single day they're on duty..... instead, they should just carry a whistle and blow it when their safety is in question......

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[Uchi Mata]

That has got to be one of the most skewed points of view I've heard. You really need to change the channel from Law and Order to get a different exposure to guns.

Responsible gun owners are some of the best people in the world. I'm not saying that owning a gun makes them a part of that group . . .

Hunting is one of the best hobbies/activities a person can become involved in IMO.

Someone who immediately goes to feeling threatened by the thought of a gun has issues IMO.

I don't feel threatened by guns per se, in the sense that I can walk by the gun counter at Dick's and not be scared or upset. What I do feel threatened by is the mindset of people who represent the pro-gun movement, the type of people who bring AR-15s to Cliven Bundy's ranch with the real intent to shoot BLM officers, or who stage armed sit ins:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/...mployees-fleeing-for-freezer-as-cops-respond/

People who really believe that they need to stock up weapons to protect themselves against the federal government, and really would start shooting if they felt threatened. It's a toxic culture that makes the country less safe for everyone. So yeah, if I see a guy in orange tramping through the woods with a shotgun I'm not scared. When I drive by a skeet range I'm not scared of the people out there shooting pigeons. When I walk by a guy at the mall with a holster and a Molon Labe shirt, I get edgy because that's a person I don't trust with any measure of power because I think their worldview is skewed the point where I don't trust them to act like a normal, reaonsable person with that power. Is that clearer?

 

[spamking]

Not every poisonous snake is going to bite me, but I still avoid them all. Why? Because they're dangerous.

Unless you have no clue they are anywhere near you.


If someone is carrying concealed chances are you'll never know it . . .

A person with a gun is inherently more dangerous than a person without one simply because they've upped their power to cause harm considerably. You can of course argue that they're only dangerous if they decide they want to hurt someone, but I don't want to count on someone else's forebearance for my safety.

I'll not argue against the idea that there are some very unstable people who own a gun. People are idiots. IMO your best bet is to not act like one and you'll never have any issues.

Criminal behavior is another story . . . IMO those folks are dangerous, unstable and idiotic even when they are unarmed.

 

[Stoic1]

Not every poisonous snake is going to bite me, but I still avoid them all. Why? Because they're dangerous. A person with a gun is inherently more dangerous than a person without one simply because they've upped their power to cause harm considerably. You can of course argue that they're only dangerous if they decide they want to hurt someone, but I don't want to count on someone else's forebearance for my safety.

You didn't drive a car today did you?

Don't count on someone else's forebearance for your safety.

Think about it. You are placing an irrational fear of an inanimate object over other inanimate objects. Tons of things are dangerous - many of them moreso statistically than guns.

 

[Groundmaster]

What I do feel threatened by is the mindset of people who represent the pro-gun movement, the type of people who bring AR-15s to Cliven Bundy's ranch

While I can understand your POV and am at least critical towards unregulated gun distribution I have to correct you here for the sake of honesty.

Clivens posse and their likes are a very small (vocal but not representative) minority of the pro-gun movement.

I think all evidence points towards the fact that arming ppl makes society more dangerous and have strong reservations as to how exactly having guns in private hands keeps tyranny at bay - but I would not lump everyone together with these hicks.

 

[Groundmaster]

If someone is carrying concealed chances are you'll never know it . . .

I fear you have just made him paranoid. I fear ppl with guns and cannot tell who is armed and who isn't - might not be an ideal situation to say the least.

 

[Groundmaster]

You didn't drive a car today did you?

Don't count on someone else's forebearance for your safety.

Think about it. You are placing an irrational fear of an inanimate object over other inanimate objects. Tons of things are dangerous - many of them moreso statistically than guns.

While your argument holds a lot of value it has still to be said that guns are much more suited to killing ppl then almost anything else - especially when you factor out things that are illegal or heavily restricted (poisons for example).

 

[Stoic1]

I fear you have just made him paranoid. I fear ppl with guns and cannot tell who is armed and who isn't - might not be an ideal situation to say the least.

I fear criminals. Not guns.

Do you fear the police also?



Would you act differently in a traffic altercation knowing the guy who just smashed your bumper was armed? Of course you would. You wouldn't go all silverback ape yelling threats and shit. You would want to be as calm and polite as possible because if you escalate this into a physical altercation - knowing that you outweigh him by 50lbs, have years of training, and could easily break both his legs, you think twice. Because this guy made a mistake, wants to give you his insurance, and be polite he doesn't want a gun fight at all. But if you start some shit and try to break both his legs he is gonna fuckin end your life.

Yeah. You are gonna treat that guy differently. Fear or respect? Maybe both?

 

[RIPWarrior]

I don't feel threatened by guns per se, in the sense that I can walk by the gun counter at Dick's and not be scared or upset. What I do feel threatened by is the mindset of people who represent the pro-gun movement, the type of people who bring AR-15s to Cliven Bundy's ranch with the real intent to shoot BLM officers, or who stage armed sit ins:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/...mployees-fleeing-for-freezer-as-cops-respond/

People who really believe that they need to stock up weapons to protect themselves against the federal government, and really would start shooting if they felt threatened. It's a toxic culture that makes the country less safe for everyone. So yeah, if I see a guy in orange tramping through the woods with a shotgun I'm not scared. When I drive by a skeet range I'm not scared of the people out there shooting pigeons. When I walk by a guy at the mall with a holster and a Molon Labe shirt, I get edgy because that's a person I don't trust with any measure of power because I think their worldview is skewed the point where I don't trust them to act like a normal, reaonsable person with that power. Is that clearer?

Seriously, grow a pair.

These aren't gangbangers holding their pistols sideways. Or Taliban that shoot up schools. These guys think something is wrong with their government and are doing what they feel is right.

Your view of society is much different compared to theirs. Are you worried that they might try to start a revolution?