Armatix Smart Gun

HIMBOB said:
What gun control measures would you want legally enforced to help ensure guns don't fall into the hands of criminals?
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An excellent question!

I would like that FELONS who attempt to purchase guns and are denied from our current check be arrested and spend time in prison. But currently "it isn't worth LEO time since its just a paper crime".

...yes, that quote was during a congressional hearing...

If we could enforce laws and punish criminals *FIRST* instead of trying to create a new class of criminals out of legally owning citizens I could, how did you say it earlier...find some middle ground?
 
HIMBOB said:
Its me Vs you. (I don't know how big you are and I presume you don't know how big I am)

All you know is I am the aggresor.
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Well I'd prefer to be armed. I don't know if you are or not, I'm already at a disadvantage either way.
 
Snackbar said:
I never said i was against anyone buying a firearm with this technology, do you guys just pull this shit out of thin air?

Here let me explain this as simply as possible for you, there are two kinds of gun owners, responsible and irresponsible owners.
The responsible gun owner stores his unloaded firearms in a safe at all time, with trigger locks. ammunition for said firearms is locked away in a seperate lock box.
The irresponsible gun owner leaves a loaded shotgun behind his bedroom door.

Which of the two is more in need of this technology?
Which of the two would purchase this technology?

Ill ask you the question i asked the other guy who cant muster a straight answer.
How is this technology more effective than education and combating the causes of gun crime?
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You're off on a tangent that requires anti anxiety pills.

I have nothing to debate with "you guys".

The question isn't about "more effective" its about choice, which you seem to be against.

I said good day!
 
Throttlehead said:
Well hopefully when a 8 year old finds mommy's loaded gun and starts to play with it, he didn't go to Radio Shack first and buy the required cell phone jammer parts.

You see no use for it at all?
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I'm really big into gambling with safety when we have statistics that we can calculate a semi-accurate probability with.

I'm also all for letting darwinism thin out the heard regardless of age.
 
Stoic1 said:
An excellent question!

I would like that FELONS who attempt to purchase guns and are denied from our current check be arrested and spend time in prison. But currently "it isn't worth LEO time since its just a paper crime".

...yes, that quote was during a congressional hearing...

If we could enforce laws and punish criminals *FIRST* instead of trying to create a new class of criminals out of legally owning citizens I could, how did you say it earlier...find some middle ground?
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Not bad.

Never heard of this before but yeah sounds like a very reasonable idea.
 
HIMBOB said:
I would consider it, that is just something I thought would interest people who want such guns for target practise etc.
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Scrody said:
So you're willing to let people have fully automatic weapons as long as it has the safety watch thing?
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You didn't answer this.

How bout you throttlehead? You think we should let people have full autos as long as they have the watch?
 
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HIMBOB said:
What gun control measures would you want legally enforced to help ensure guns don't fall into the hands of criminals?
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Many, myself included, believe that harsher sentences for violent criminals and an emptying of the prisons for non-violent drug offenses would be worth experimenting with before resorting to infringing upon everyone's rights.

People cry to high heaven that requiring an id to vote is a poll tax. A lot of these same folks will have no problem with forcing others to use a licensed dealer for private sales and those dealers don't work for free. Both are rights so which side is the common sense side? Let's hear some proposals on how society is going to foot the bill through taxation and streamline the check process. If it's too much burden to get an id it's too much burden to drive over 100 miles (in my case this is true) to meet regulations.
 
Scrody said:
You didn't answer this.

How bout you throttlehead? You think we should let people have full autos as long as they have the watch?
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No

I don't think the two are linked whatsoever, what is the link? I see this technology as a choice when buying a firearm, nothing more.

The reason I put this thread up is I thought this technology has a place as far as consumers are concerned, and when a gun dealer supported it, he got death threats for his support and pro gun groups thrashed him. It seems a bit bizarre to me. If you think it should be a trade off, we get full auto guns while you get to buy an armatix, I don't understand it, or even why it would be brought up.

I do totally think that no legislation or laws should be put in place because of this technology, let it ride in the free market, but apparently Wayne LaPierre and friends don't like the free market.

I will add, regarding the NRA and Wayne Lapierre. The NRA is a fucking joke with this guy at the helm and its political claws, it should be about gun safety, education, etc , you know like how all the pro gun guys on here are saying (in regards to more safety). They argue no one needs smart guns they need to be taught gun safety, education on and on. The NRA is exactly the opposite, they should put the "we represent gun makers" shingle on their building. Some issue comes up, they send Lapierre a case of Red Bull, give him some false Hitler lines, comb his hair with tooth paste and send him out on stage, shortly after he lies his ass off on how Obama is coming for your guns, the sales go through the roof once again. I have no idea why people support this meathead and that group (other than getting deals on ammo etc with NRA card).
 
Scrody said:
You didn't answer this.

How bout you throttlehead? You think we should let people have full autos as long as they have the watch?
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Maybe, it would be part of a range of measures before support it.

But it would definetly make it more likely for me to support.
 
Protectandserve said:
If people want it good for them, let them purchase one and the risks associated with it.
Just don't make me buy it.

I'll keep my good ole dumb guns.
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I feel the same way. It's like a hybrid car. Get one if you want to, but leave my V8 alone.
 
HIMBOB said:
Maybe, it would be part of a range of measures before support it.

But it would definetly make it more likely for me to support.
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So a gimmicky safety mechanism is all you need in order to legalize fully automatic weapons for anyone that can buy it. Why am I, the American, thinking that the Australians idea regarding less restriction on firearms is retarded?
 
ABACA said:
And like many other conservative idiots in this thread, you fail to understand that safety measures aren't meant to prevent every single dangerous situation, but instead mitigate a risk factor(s) associated with the use of the firearm which can have a massive effect in aggregate. That a firearm has a mechanical safety is not a good reason to aim it at a your friend and squeeze, but that firearms have mechanical safeties has clearly saved many, many lives.
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I really wonder how many lives have been saved by a safety(not saying it hasn't). It is pathetic gun handling that a safety would have saved you from accidentally shooting a person. You have to pull the trigger for the gun to fire. You always treat a gun as if it were loaded. General gun safety would help greatly.

Anyway I guess I could see how this could prevent accidental shootings among irresponsible idiot gun owners, well providing they aren't wearing the watch. I think the best way it would help would be if someone is stupid enough to leave a loaded gun lying around for young kids to play with. Regardless of that safety feature or not, nobody should leave it around for someone to grab loaded or unloaded. I will continue to disagree with the suicide prevention aspect. I just don't see it.

One of the most popular handguns in the world (Glock) basically doesn't have a safety(see picture below). Most revolvers don't have safeties, 1911's only have a grip safety(if you are holding the gun the safety is off). Almost all Sig Sauer's do not have safeties. S&W M&P has the option for a manual safety but I think most models don't have one. Springfield xd pistols have a safe action trigger(like glock) and a grip safety(like a 1911) but once you are holding it and have your finger on the trigger the safety is disengaged. There are many others but those are some of the most popular options.

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Do you see that little thing on the trigger, that is the safety(safe action trigger). The second your finger is on the trigger the safety is disengaged.

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That thing on the back of the grip sticking out, that is the safety.

I am not against people owning this technology if you could guaranty that it won't be forced on other people.

From the website.
SMART SYSTEM:
THE FUTURE OF THE FIREARM. NOW.


The prototype from Armatix is proof that guns with integrated electronic intelligence are already possible and feasible today. How the technology can be incorporated into existing handguns needs to be checked in individual cases.
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This is what scares me, the anti's will want to try to implement this.

I wonder how the tech effects the guns reliability and performance. Not talking about the watch or an electrical failure but the mechanism in the gun attached to the trigger and whatnot. What I also noticed is that the gun is only a .22lr. I wonder if the system could handle the forces of a higher powered round.

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Scrody said:
So a gimmicky safety mechanism is all you need in order to legalize fully automatic weapons for anyone that can buy it. Why am I, the American, thinking that the Australians idea regarding less restriction on firearms is retarded?
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Damn bro, are you not well today or something???

"it would be part of a range" =/= "is all you need"
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Many, myself included, believe that harsher sentences for violent criminals and an emptying of the prisons for non-violent drug offenses would be worth experimenting with before resorting to infringing upon everyone's rights.

People cry to high heaven that requiring an id to vote is a poll tax. A lot of these same folks will have no problem with forcing others to use a licensed dealer for private sales and those dealers don't work for free. Both are rights so which side is the common sense side? Let's hear some proposals on how society is going to foot the bill through taxation and streamline the check process. If it's too much burden to get an id it's too much burden to drive over 100 miles (in my case this is true) to meet regulations.
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