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Are we in a right wing clique?

Zuckerberg didn't endorse Trump. The vast majority of celebs still lean left especially if they are going public with their political opinions. The influencer space is the only one that is more even because it's less controlled by elites even if YouTube, tiktok and others try hard to tip it in the lefts favor

Endorse Trump without saying you endorse trump
 
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@PBAC The "right wingers" you see speaking out are the "me" in this picture.
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We're not in a right wing clique. We are in a particular point in history characterized by:

- Hyper individualism and clout as currency
- Attention whoring and narcissism
- Extreme hot takes trumping rational takes given the relative more attention hot takes get
- Post-truth society
- Acceptance of shamelessness
- The elimination of the concept of scaredness and acceptance of the profane
- Zero attention span and intellectual laziness; more than two paragraphs is TL/DR
- Lack of maturity with constant trolling online -- instead of people talking to each other how they would IRL being disciplined enough to do it online

These traits are largely the antithesis to the people driving society forward through research, hard work, honesty, effort, decency and ultimately accomplishment -- the things that are bona fide beneficial to society. And it's why someone who exhibits all the bad that I listed above in bullet form will likely be the next President (again). It is absolutely fitting of the point of time we are in with the digital revolution. It is on the whole not what people need but it is what they deserve.
I think this is way too pessimistic, but there is some insight. You might appreciate this:

 
You love abortions? :rolleyes:
Yes. Parents having unwanted children causes all kinds of bad things for society.

Steven Levitt of freakonomics fame did a study that showed abortion directly leads to lower crime.

Basically if a mom has an unwanted child, the mom's miserable, she takes it out on the child who grows up miserable, then the child takes it out on society to make them miserable.

The only arguments against abortion are religious ones but if you're not religious then there's no reason to ban abortions. Especially now that they can be done with a pill.

And even if you are religious, we just need to adjust your belief about when life begins. No reason to think a baby has a soul when it's nothing more than a fertilized egg. When does it get a soul? Nobody knows, so let's just say around month 4. Everyone's happy! Yay
 
Yes. Parents having unwanted children causes all kinds of bad things for society.

Steven Levitt of freakonomics fame did a study that showed abortion directly leads to lower crime.

Basically if a mom has an unwanted child, the mom's miserable, she takes it out on the child who grows up miserable, then the child takes it out on society to make them miserable.

The only arguments against abortion are religious ones but if you're not religious then there's no reason to ban abortions. Especially now that they can be done with a pill.

And even if you are religious, we just need to adjust your belief about when life begins. No reason to think a baby has a soul when it's nothing more than a fertilized egg. When does it get a soul? Nobody knows, so let's just say around month 4. Everyone's happy! Yay

I was just pointing out how weird your post reads. We should probably interpret it as "I love abortion rights".

I agree with your stance. 3-4 months seems like a reasonable cutoff point.
 
Endorse Trump without saying you endorse trump

"Seeing Donald Trump get up after getting shot in the face, and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I've ever seen in my life."

Any person capable of objectivity can admit that. Anyone. That was straight Teddy Roosevelt level shit. It's insane how badass it was. You don't have to like him, or like his politics, but if you can't admit that, you truly have a terminal case of TDS.

This is what the left fantasized Trump would behave like in the face of death recently in the movie Civil War: hiding under his desk, clinging to it as they drag him out, begging "don't let them kill me". I must admit I thought they were right.
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But we were wrong. This was the reality.
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So I've noticing a pattern here. Most of the celebs I follow have gone full right wing.

I noticed it first with boxing and the UFC attracting right wing fans, then it increases with Dana fully endorsing Trump. Trump and pretty much anyone of a questionable nature seem to mingle among boxing and the UFC. Criminals have a history of running with combat sports of all kinds in almost every country. Andrew Tate comes into the fold, and while I never followed the guy Mr.Officer I do spot the allure of his fan base. I mean his own group is called the War Room and it is basically the same concept as the war room on sherdog. These are all pretty relatable, but it gets stranger when suddenly we have Musk and Zuck jumping into the fray, and sometimes quite literally as they not only align with the far right but also align with the UFC. We got Joe Brogan pushing the narrative with his buddy Putin running with the MMA and right wing crowd too. Kind of a surprise for me but I did watch Dr Phil before and now he's backing right wing policies too.

I'm making this thread now on this same note as I only just found out the youtuber Jon Tron is a far right mouth peace too.

To booth we also have the Incels running with the clique, something a guy like Tate clearly aimed to exploit. It's quite obvious there is mutual ground between fight fans and incels. The shortage of women here confirms this.

I mean, I'm feeling like I could aim to be a major left wing supporter but it would never matter because the culture I immerse myself and often my way of thinking clearly does not match someone on the left. Am I just a right winger in moderate clothing? Would anyone here even identify as left wing even? I think even the most left leaning posters on this forum would call themselves centralists or moderates.
Zuckerberg?
I thought he was far left and sent millions to Biden. He flipped?
 
So I've noticing a pattern here. Most of the celebs I follow have gone full right wing.

I noticed it first with boxing and the UFC attracting right wing fans, then it increases with Dana fully endorsing Trump. Trump and pretty much anyone of a questionable nature seem to mingle among boxing and the UFC. Criminals have a history of running with combat sports of all kinds in almost every country. Andrew Tate comes into the fold, and while I never followed the guy Mr.Officer I do spot the allure of his fan base. I mean his own group is called the War Room and it is basically the same concept as the war room on sherdog. These are all pretty relatable, but it gets stranger when suddenly we have Musk and Zuck jumping into the fray, and sometimes quite literally as they not only align with the far right but also align with the UFC. We got Joe Brogan pushing the narrative with his buddy Putin running with the MMA and right wing crowd too. Kind of a surprise for me but I did watch Dr Phil before and now he's backing right wing policies too.

I'm making this thread now on this same note as I only just found out the youtuber Jon Tron is a far right mouth peace too.

To booth we also have the Incels running with the clique, something a guy like Tate clearly aimed to exploit. It's quite obvious there is mutual ground between fight fans and incels. The shortage of women here confirms this.

I mean, I'm feeling like I could aim to be a major left wing supporter but it would never matter because the culture I immerse myself and often my way of thinking clearly does not match someone on the left. Am I just a right winger in moderate clothing? Would anyone here even identify as left wing even? I think even the most left leaning posters on this forum would call themselves centralists or moderates.

Rich people gonna rich people.
 
Zuckerberg?
I thought he was far left and sent millions to Biden. He flipped?
Publicly he's left. But secretly he helped Trump win the first time around.

The only thing you can count on with Zuckerberg is that he'll say whatever is advantageous to him at any time, without giving a millisecond's worth of concern on whether it's true or not.
 
Yeah but some of the other stuff really turns me off about that party. I can't get behind men in women's sports or pretending DEI is important. I guess I'm really a Republican that just doesn't like religion.
It becomes a problem when identity politics is a hill to die on. Most social issues had been addressed, some are more nuanced, and clearly we need to keep fighting due to the conservative SC. But to alienate potential voters over something as insignificant as trans or DEI issues is astounding to me, when foreign policy, our economy and republicanism in itself is so much more important.

Let's take two steps forward, and one step back on that one. Comprising now will make it more acceptable later, IMO. We should focus elsewhere at the moment.
 
Yeah but some of the other stuff really turns me off about that party. I can't get behind men in women's sports or pretending DEI is important. I guess I'm really a Republican that just doesn't like religion.
Lots of mainstream liberals are with you on that too, and it's not inherently liberals. My point here is just that from your own self-description, you seem like a normie liberal who just doesn't realize that the fringe left isn't mainstream.

BTW, Levitt's work on the abortion-crime link has been somewhere between discredited and totally debunked. It was plausible, but it doesn't hold up. I still think abortion should be legal, though.
 
It becomes a problem when identity politics is a hill to die on. Most social issues had been addressed, some are more nuanced, and clearly we need to keep fighting due to the conservative SC. But to alienate potential voters over something as insignificant as trans or DEI issues is astounding to me, when foreign policy, our economy and republicanism in itself is so much more important.
But that's mostly just rightist propaganda. They don't like to run on regressive tax changes, higher deficits, or cutting the safety net (much less creepy NRx shit) so they run on pretending that every Democrat is an extreme leftist. You fall for that stuff yourself, though you also remain aware of what the GOP is up to on policy.
 
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