Opinion Are U.S. Presidents Pawns of Israel or Is Israel a Pawn of U.S. Strategy?

[Phlog]

80% of US Congress people are bribed by AIPAC.

So you tell me?

 

[MetaIIica]

so again, Oct 7 and since bro, big war between Israel and the US on one side, and the muzzers on the other

why these sleeper cells still in bed, bro? come on Jim Ryan, tell me what they are waiting for? Iran to be actually nuked?

Oh wow, 1 day later, 16 Iranian terrorists arrested across the US. One is a Soldier for iranian army. You really made yourself look stupid..

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Look at "6-3" KIng Donnie nest to a 6' King.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Lmao they even control the NBA. Even on sherdog we can't say the Z-i-o word.

- NBA died when Shaking retired

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Look at "6-3" KIng Donnie nest to a 6' King.

- Donnie is 80. He lost some inchs

 

[Koya]

Even Israeli politicians think US presidents are too fucked by Israel. This one is a gem of submission. It's like a D/S relationship.

Trump calls for end to Netanyahu corruption trial​

Trump calls on Israel end to Netanyahu corruption trial

The US president says the case should be dropped, prompting accusations of interference.

www.bbc.com

Israeli opposition criticises Trump’s call to cancel Netanyahu corruption trial​

US president accused of interfering in judicial system after saying charges against Israeli PM are ‘witch hunt’

Israeli opposition criticises Trump’s call to cancel Netanyahu corruption trial

US president accused of interfering in judicial system after saying charges against Israeli PM are ‘witch hunt’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Why did you]

 

[Koya]

America is getting totally cucked by israel

 

[BAM]

80% of US Congress people are bribed by AIPAC.

So you tell me?

AIPAC has an American jewish board with super strong Israeli connections, but I dont think on its own AIPAC has the influence it does, let alone Israel proper. It's their interests alligning with the American Christian dispensationalists' funding, institutional influence, and lobbying and the American military industrial complex's lobbying and institutional infuence that creates this unique synergy of power. So if all of the influence originates from American sources, including security interests, is it really Israeli led?

I get the sense that if Netanyahu became inconvenient, he would be dropped and replaced with someone that served American interests.

 

[BAM]

America is getting totally cucked by israel

He's a true believer christian dispensationalist. My understanding is that to him, Israel is a means to bringing about the end times, where jews suffer in mass, the world ends, and through years of suffering the surviving Israeli jews are converted into christians. That all of this helps bring jesus back to earth to rule and have christian paradise. Only by taking all of palestine does the end times trigger for him, no 2 state solutions allowed, no peace, to do so is to defy God..

Not quite the cucked dynamic, it's not really a pro-jewish position. Rather, it's a kind of dark sacrifice of jews and muslims for christian needs. It's about the "chosen" purpose they serve and what they can become - like him. Not about loving who they are and what they currently believe or their security - it's the opposite

 

[Koya]

He's a true believer christian dispensationalist. My understanding is that to him, Israel is a means to bringing about the end times, where jews suffer in mass, the world ends, and through years of suffering the surviving Israeli jews are converted into christians. That all of this helps bring jesus back to earth to rule and have christian paradise. Only by taking all of palestine does the end times trigger for him, no 2 state solutions allowed, no peace, to do so is to defy God..

Not quite the cucked dynamic, it's not really a pro-jewish position. Rather, it's a kind of dark sacrifice of jews and muslims for christian needs. It's about the "chosen" purpose they serve and what they can become - like him. Not about loving who they are and what they currently believe or their security - it's the opposite

I know of the creed of that branch of Christianity. It's the same creed that made a powerful lobby like CUFI (Christians United For Israel) a thing. But what are the implications for current American politics ? Are current israel interestings are prioritzed over American interests ? Financially and diplomatically that absolutely is the case. That's what I mean by cucked.

Also not every American supports israel because he's a dystopian Christian in those circles. Most are just handsomely paid by AIPAC to do so. They don't go very far into creed and belief matters.

Here is another example from today of how the US tarnishes its international image and credibility to serve israel:

US reportedly suspends visa approvals for nearly all Palestinian passport holders

Restrictions to prevent travel for healthcare and college and come after denying visas to Palestinian Authority leaders

www.theguardian.com

That's currently being cucked, destroying your image because your politicians are literally controlled and paid by a foreign nation.

 

[BAM]

I know of the creed of that branch of Christianity. It's the same creed that made a powerful lobby like CUFI (Christians United For Israel) a thing. But what are the implications for current American politics ? Are current israel interestings are prioritzed over American interests ? Financially and diplomatically that absolutely is the case. That's what I mean by cucked.

Also not every American supports israel because he's a dystopian Christian in those circles. Most are just handsomely paid by AIPAC to do so. They don't go very far into creed and belief matters.

Here is another example from today of how the US tarnishes its international image and credibility to serve israel:

US reportedly suspends visa approvals for nearly all Palestinian passport holders

Restrictions to prevent travel for healthcare and college and come after denying visas to Palestinian Authority leaders

www.theguardian.com

That's currently being cucked, destroying your image because your politicians are literally controlled and paid by a foreign nation.

Re American interests, if you mean serving American corporate power and military power - yes. If you mean serving average people, no, but that's true of a thousand things and has been true for decades. It's really more a corporatocracy than anything, it's why populist movements are getting so much momentum right now.

I think the American image abroad has been shattered the past 10 years or so, regardless of whatever is going on in Israel. The last 9 months or so have especially had an impact with the ripping up free trade agreements, implicit threats to withdraw from military agreements, on again off again tariffs, buffoonery, corruption, and general belligerence. People used to laugh at the Trump stuff during the 1st term, and during the 2nd and 3rd campaigns, it's far more dark and solemn now when I talk with Australians. A real concern. The thing they never bring up - Palestine. I bring it up. They don't care about that generally.

However, tbh, I'd say at least half of Americans don't give a shit about what international countries think, about anything, other than whether they fear American power and how there might be some sort of gain from that. Especially American 1st isolationists.

Global free trade types, global security collaborationists, that are sympathetic to Palestine, care about America's reputation, and they more or less want the aid to flow and for there to be a 2 state solution. Not enough enough to stop the bombing however.

 

[PEB]

Trump become a sucker and loser to Putin and Xi

 

[Koya]

Trump become a sucker and loser to Putin and Xi

Trump had the genius idea to alienate India with stupid tariffs. Really incredible.

 

[Koya]

Re American interests, if you mean serving American corporate power and military power - yes. If you mean serving average people, no, but that's true of a thousand things and has been true for decades. It's really more a corporatocracy than anything, it's why populist movements are getting so much momentum right now.

I think the American image abroad has been shattered the past 10 years or so, regardless of whatever is going on in Israel. The last 9 months or so have especially had an impact with the ripping up free trade agreements, implicit threats to withdraw from military agreements, on again off again tariffs, buffoonery, corruption, and general belligerence. People used to laugh at the Trump stuff during the 1st term, and during the 2nd and 3rd campaigns, it's far more dark and solemn now when I talk with Australians. A real concern. The thing they never bring up - Palestine. I bring it up. They don't care about that generally.

However, tbh, I'd say at least half of Americans don't give a shit about what international countries think, about anything, other than whether they fear American power and how there might be some sort of gain from that. Especially American 1st isolationists.

Global free trade types, global security collaborationists, that are sympathetic to Palestine, care about America's reputation, and they more or less want the aid to flow and for there to be a 2 state solution. Not enough enough to stop the bombing however.

Yes I meant American institutions, not average people. Well given that presidential candidates can get big corporations to sponsor their campaign of course it'll be a corporatocracy.

American image was okay-ish during Obama's first term. The last couple years have been distraous. I agree that the last 9 months have been worse because it lost soft power with so many countries that had good relationships with it like India with tariffs for example.

But back at the subject at hand: doesn't matter if the average American doesn't care about America's image. America goes out of its way to protect israel and destroy American influence, wether it's Trump, Biden or Joe Schmo who is president. Putting israeli interests before American interests isn't something like tariffs that happens only for trump, it transcends all political affiliations and is now one of the deepest unmovable constant that literally defines American politics.

 

[SandisLL]

Israel is United States strategic partner and United States will keep in force confirmed by Congress Strategic Partnership Agreement with Israel.
President Trump and Mike Johnson had confirmed this...

 

[Streeter]

They good at manipulating but end of day Israel is almost totally dependant on the US - they can push buy they know they csn only push so far

 

[Why did you]

Look at "6-3" KIng Donnie nest to a 6' King.

Trump is a pawn of the Netherlands : )

and rip for your account

 

[Koya]

They good at manipulating but end of day Israel is almost totally dependant on the US - they can push buy they know they csn only push so far

They bought all the politicians. They can push as much as they want.

 

[Hog-train]

At the end of the day the USA is the one calling the shots. USA is the number one superpower in the world as it should be.

All US Congressman basically have to worship Israel or they get blackballed and primaried.