Social Are illegal immigrants mostly bad people?

[Natural Order]

GOAT animated series.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

This ain't it cuh

 

[fedoriswar37]

Probably not but that's not what closing the borders about.

With that said as a Canadian, I'd rather take in illegal south Americans then legal indians/Pakistanis.

 

[The XL]

I think most in America are decent people. Europe, not so much

 

[Brampton_Boy]

No - I don't think that at all.

My (anecdotal) observation is that people are looking for a better life, and they are willing to go to extreme lengths for that opportunity.

With that being said, I do believe that illegal immigrants place a huge strain on our system and often have access to benefits that domestic residents do not. In my part of the world (Greater Toronto Area) I find it preposterous that we have asylum seekers living in hotels, while the homeless indigenous population explodes. However, that is not the fault of the illegal immigrant, that is the fault of a broken system that allows for these types of things to happen.

 

[Richmma80]

You're one of those very low-IQ righties so this won't matter to you (and you likely won't be able to interpret what it means) so this is more for others reading through the thread:

If you want a more recent one:

Most of these cities have a sizeable Hispanic population. #6, #13 and #16 are overwhelmingly Hispanic. Like 90%+

And the craziest thing is they're also very poor. Very poor, very Hispanic... but still manage to be very safe. Mind blowing...

Can you post homicides by race?

 

[shunyata]

100%

USA they are likely just looking for a better life and mostly are willing to work hard.

Europe it’s an invasion where they want to rule and culturally change everything.

Mexico > Africa/Islam

Can't speak for Europe but yes in America I've met tons of people who fled cartel violence and just wanted to work and send their kids to school. They would rather be living in El Salvador / Mexico etc if it was safe.

The idea that people running from being murdered were crossing the desert thinking "yeah I'm gonna exploit this system so hard working in a restaurant kitchen / farm / hotel" is fucking nuts.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Can't speak for Europe but yes in America I've met tons of people who fled cartel violence and just wanted to work and send their kids to school. They would rather be living in El Salvador / Mexico etc if it was safe.

The idea that people running from being murdered were crossing the desert thinking "yeah I'm gonna exploit this system so hard working in a restaurant kitchen / farm / hotel" is fucking nuts.

I love Mexicans and have said on here multiple times we need more Mexican immigrants.

 

[Aurelian]

No. What kind of question even is this?

 

[Aurelian]

I love Mexicans and have said on here multiple times we need more Mexican immigrants.

Here where I live, pretty much all the Mexicans I encounter are hard working family people. I never see them getting in trouble or breaking laws.

Now, they might play there music a little too loud and I think they probably drink a little too much, but I don't give a fuck about that.

 

[shunyata]

I love Mexicans and have said on here multiple times we need more Mexican immigrants.

And I'd add that I've met plenty of other Americans, who didn't always have their paperwork perfect, who were here seeking safety from armed conflicts the US was directly involved in and all of them were hardworking as fuck. Some of whom worked for the US military and US State Dept over the years.

Just because someone isn't a citizen and doesn't have a visa or their visa expired and they're contesting it doesn't mean they're a bad person. Fundamentally judging someone's character on the basis of this is insane.

No. What kind of question even is this?

A fascist one, that seeks to define the outgroup as fundamentally evil.

 

[Osculater]

Yes

 

[Osculater]

Probably not but that's not what closing the borders about.

With that said as a Canadian, I'd rather take in illegal south Americans then legal indians/Pakistanis.

 

[N13]

@Crazy Source

This is where I think Trump is making a big mistake.

People who crossed the border illegally and then committed additional federal crimes, should be sent back to their country of origin or serve jail time here.
People who crossed the border illegally and have committed crimes in their nation of origin, should be deported to their country of origin.

People who crossed the border illegally but have committed no other crimes should be allowed to stay if they are employed legally, especially those who own and operate businesses that employ others. They should be given some sort of work permit or green card and given a 10 year path to citizenship.

 

[Crazy Source]

@Crazy Source

This is where I think Trump is making a big mistake.

People who crossed the border illegally and then committed additional federal crimes, should be sent back to their country of origin or serve jail time here.
People who crossed the border illegally and have committed crimes in their nation of origin, should be deported to their country of origin.

People who crossed the border illegally but have committed no other crimes should be allowed to stay if they are employed legally, especially those who own and operate businesses that employ others. They should be given some sort of work permit or green card and given a 10 year path to citizenship.

All reasonable positions.

 

[avenue94]

I didn't mention red states or blue states.
You think people just wander in here by mistake? I'm talking about people exploiting taxpayer funded programs that illegals use.
I don't really care for deliberate ignorance as a debate tactic, so if you're going to pretend you don't know what I'm talking about, move on because I'm not playing.

Which programs do you think they're exploiting specifically?

 

[chrisdiaz]

I dont really think that question matters. They are in a country illegally, breaking laws. People should not be able to break laws, thats why we have them. If they break the law, they are punished. Its not really a hard concept to understand.

 

[Rod1]

The Hispanic ones, which is most of them, will have children that are much more likely to become gang members, stealing cars, home invasions, killings, etc.. there's not a single town or city in this country with a sizeable Hispanic population that does NOT have a gang problem

And since these kids are citizens, not immigrants, they skew the statistics

Not to shit on your racist agenda but no, there are plenty of Hispanic majority places in America that are super safe.

 

[Blayt7hh]

People voting yes lack empathy and should take a look in the mirror

I support enforcing immigration laws and restrictions, but that does not mean these are mostly bad people at all

Only very, very simple minded folks think like that

The maga platform runs on two things, spiteful retribution for perceived slights and scamming its own supporters. MAGA voters seem like generally miserable people to listen to

 

[Rod1]

Can you post homicides by race?

I saw someone already pointed out your fallacy and i guess you are going to double down on the retard.

Can you at least admit you were wrong on your original statement?