Are artists are less valuable since they were the first to be replaced by AI?

[MC Paul Barman]

I hope that people can find where their ideas are being used in AI outputs and they sue those who make and profit from the AI product.

I wish people more actively did not support AI.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

I hope that people can find where their ideas are being used in AI outputs and they sue those who make and profit from the AI product.

I wish people more actively did not support AI.

Adobe included in their TOS that they can use your works for their AI and you will like it and thank them.

 

[TeTe]

You are already seeing it everywhere. In writing, art, music, design etc. What it is doing is enabling people with less skill and talent, catch up to those that do. That's just the truth, I am seeing at work with emails and presentations already.

Are you seeing it because the results are canned and formulaic? I guess those with half a brain and an astute eye will appreciate human crafted results more

 

[TeTe]

Yeah so am I. It kind of sucks because I'm good at writing, and the people I would compete with for promotions and whatnot would have spelling/grammar errors, or they'd just not be as articulate, so it makes me look better.

But now everyone has these perfect emails all the time, so they're all labeled as good communicators.

And I've spent a lot of time getting good with Excel, so it's going to piss me off when everyone starts making awesome models and shit without understanding how they even work.

Thing is, you'll still be able to spot a good writer because of the personality that shows though. If you are a good writer you kind of see though the algorithmic bullshit. Granted it may be good enough to get by for most, but it's hard to fool people.

I write user interface copy for our software to humanize it and make us relatable and conversational with the user. It takes actual writing skill to do that and deep understanding of your users and your product (software).

Any attempts at having an algorithm write it, makes the copy sound canned and like an engineer write it. Which is very essence of the issue in the first place.... Non writers writing for layman.

 

[TeTe]

Paid $100 a ticket to see Dave Matthews band in August. Can't wait to pay $100 to see the AI knock off

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Paid $100 a ticket to see Dave Matthews band in August. Can't wait to pay $100 to see the AI knock off

Underrated actor, imo.

 

[Spounman]

Yes. Data Analysts like myself as well

 

[armbarforhire]

The Internet is what has made making a living from your music difficult over the past 25 years. Just ask Lars Ulrich. Fortunately for musicians, they just raised the price of live performances by a lot since then to make up for it. Something people aren't going to pay AI for.

Musicians always made most of their money from concerts especially since young artist where conned to sign fucked up contracts, the internet also helped some musicians to bypass radio bias and payola. Win some, lose some.

 

[armbarforhire]

AI 'art' is a novelty. A masterpiece like Michelangelo's David will endure as long as culture and memory last. It's not just the image, but human spirit carved in stone. That kind of value can't be replaced, it transcends function. I imagine AI 'art' will be mostly for the voracious consumer and porn addict.

We haven't supported that type of art in a long time.

 

[I Am Legion]

Are you seeing it because the results are canned and formulaic? I guess those with half a brain and an astute eye will appreciate human crafted results more

Yes, too formal, no human touch, although technically correct. I liken it to the videos of the Asian guitar prodigies. They can play anything note for note. But no feel or emotion in the pieces they play.

 

[Deorum]

AI 'art' is a novelty. A masterpiece like Michelangelo's David will endure as long as culture and memory last. It's not just the image, but human spirit carved in stone. That kind of value can't be replaced, it transcends function. I imagine AI 'art' will be mostly for the voracious consumer and porn addict.

All of Michelangelo will endure. He is an outlier of outliers and the greatest visual artist of all-time, bar none. David may not even be his best sculpture carved and chiseled from a single block of marble (although I do think so) given that Pieta exists, but either way, they're #1 and #2. He also painted the most ambitious and iconic fresco in the history of Western art on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel alongside another monumental one on its altar wall. He was a principal architect of the largest church in the world, fully responsible for its dome and drum.

We haven't supported that type of art in a long time.

It's been subpar for a minute.

 

[PG29 red0 Jr]

I have never heard anyone think artists were particularly valuable.

people used to think artists were just as valuable as accountants, or plumbers, or programmers...

 

[Hotora86]

I think people used to think artists were just as valuable as accountants, or plumbers, or programmers...

But since AI has really taken off it looks like artists are really the first victims to be replaced.

Does that change their value in your eyes at all?

Yes.
I've used AI to create pictures and write articles - within minutes. Illustrators' and journalists' value has plummeted. Here's what AI had to say about it:

Here's a more detailed look at the issue:

Illustrators:

• Job displacement:
  A significant number of illustrators (37%) and translators (43%) report a decrease in income due to generative AI, with some even losing their jobs to AI-generated art, according to the Society of Authors.
  
  
• Style imitation:
  Many illustrators worry about AI mimicking their unique style and voice, which could further erode their market value.
  
  
• Ethical concerns:
  The use of AI in art raises ethical questions about copyright, originality, and the value of human creativity.
  
  
• Overabundance and desensitization:
  AI-generated art's ability to mass-produce quickly could lead to an overabundance of works, potentially diluting the meaning and impact of art, according to the AOKIstudio.
  

Journalists:

• Job displacement:
  Journalists are concerned about AI replacing them in newsrooms, potentially leading to fewer jobs and skills in the industry.
  
  
• Misinformation and deception:
  The potential for AI to spread misleading or deceptive content is a major concern for both journalists and audiences, according to research from RMIT University.
  
  
• Lack of distinctiveness:
  Some fear that AI could lead to more generic content, making it harder for journalists to stand out.
  
  
• Impact on journalism organizations:
  Concerns exist that AI could hollow out news organizations, leaving only AI-generated summaries and independent outlets.
  
  
• Erosion of trust:
  AI-generated content could erode trust in journalism if it is not properly labeled and attributed.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I think people used to think artists were just as valuable as accountants, or plumbers, or programmers...

But since AI has really taken off it looks like artists are really the first victims to be replaced.

Does that change their value in your eyes at all?

Sorry but what has AI done of significance except YT shorts and other bullshit? I don t think that movie sales have crashed just because there are a bunch of fake AI shits out there.

 

[TeTe]

Yes.
I've used AI to create pictures and write articles - within minutes. Illustrators' and journalists' value has plummeted. Here's what AI had to say about it:

Here's a more detailed look at the issue:

Illustrators:

• Job displacement:
  A significant number of illustrators (37%) and translators (43%) report a decrease in income due to generative AI, with some even losing their jobs to AI-generated art, according to the Society of Authors.
  
  
• Style imitation:
  Many illustrators worry about AI mimicking their unique style and voice, which could further erode their market value.
  
  
• Ethical concerns:
  The use of AI in art raises ethical questions about copyright, originality, and the value of human creativity.
  
  
• Overabundance and desensitization:
  AI-generated art's ability to mass-produce quickly could lead to an overabundance of works, potentially diluting the meaning and impact of art, according to the AOKIstudio.

Journalists:

• Job displacement:
  Journalists are concerned about AI replacing them in newsrooms, potentially leading to fewer jobs and skills in the industry.
  
  
• Misinformation and deception:
  The potential for AI to spread misleading or deceptive content is a major concern for both journalists and audiences, according to research from RMIT University.
  
  
• Lack of distinctiveness:
  Some fear that AI could lead to more generic content, making it harder for journalists to stand out.
  
  
• Impact on journalism organizations:
  Concerns exist that AI could hollow out news organizations, leaving only AI-generated summaries and independent outlets.
  
  
• Erosion of trust:
  AI-generated content could erode trust in journalism if it is not properly labeled and attributed.

Nothing worse than AI generated news articles. Full of inaccuracies and painful to read. Sports illustrated is an unbearable website to refer to because of AI now. After the draft They ran a story about the Raiders new "quarterback" in the headline and proceeded to post pics of and talk about Ashton Jeanty in the vaguest way. Lmao you can't even read your garbage before you post it?

 

[Fury]

The average person doesn't give a fuck about the artist, just their art. Steal it, download it, fuck the artist apparently.

The average person doesn't care about anything that gets stolen if it isn't there's, doesn't affect them or a family member

 

[Spam On Rye]

All of Michelangelo will endure. He is an outlier of outliers and the greatest visual artist of all-time, bar none. David may not even be his best sculpture carved and chiseled from a single block of marble (although I do think so) given that Pieta exists, but either way, they're #1 and #2. He also painted the most ambitious and iconic fresco in the history of Western art on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel alongside another monumental one on its altar wall. He was a principal architect of the largest church in the world, fully responsible for its dome and drum.



It's been subpar for a minute.

Agreed. I also think architecture represents the height of human achievement. What postmodern man finds beautiful in this regard is always shocking to me. Personally, I’m partial to Byzantine art and Eastern Orthodox churches but the RC churches are equally stunning.

I'd also like to add this blasphemy as the pinnacle of this timeline of decay:

 

[Flower2dPeople]

I have never heard anyone think artists were particularly valuable.

If you're in a circle of jazz musicians, you wouldn't really talk about metal.

 

[PG29 red0 Jr]

If you're in a circle of jazz musicians, you wouldn't really talk about metal.

No doubt that's the situation I am in. I don't even know a single artist.

 

[Spam On Rye]

I think Eastern Orthodox architecture and interior design can easily hang with the best that Roman Catholicism has produced. It's art on a smaller scale (mosaics, painting, sculpture) and sacred music where I feel like the RC is undisputed king but the church literally had fucking Michelangelo and Mozart working directly for it. The aesthetics are not there for the mere sake of it but rather designed to evoke a sense of the divine and facilitate spiritual experiences which is something that Protestants unfortunately just haven't ever seemed to grasp. A lot of people won't like to hear it, but the arts reached their pinnacle when Christianity was the driving patron and promoter of them.

Yeah it's about veneration and the aesthetic life. I definitely agree that art peaked with Christianity. For me, it was probably somewhere between Dante and Shakespeare, especially in music/lit. Even the last great artists of the past few centuries like Dostoevsky, Lewis, Tolkien and Arvo Pärt were driven by faith. There’s good art outside Christianity but much of it feels disteleological and won’t be remembered imo.