Are artists are less valuable since they were the first to be replaced by AI?

[gspieler]

totally wrong thats gonna be the only job as it will be the only source of human connection in a world where everyones best friend is a chatbot and their boss and coworkers are all computers

IDK about “only job”. But I agree AI is not going to replace OF. OF is only a thing to begin with, because humans intrinsically need to feel a sense of companionship and intimacy. Hollow as OF may be, it still provides that in ways virtual porn never can.

 

[HHJ]

The problem is the speed. Any record label or movie studio can afford the best artists but do they want to wait months for them to paint something?

Unfortunately this is one of the driving forces behind AI in general

 

[Gene Tunney]

Since projects are always time-based, I could see how AI facilitates producers to more rapidly generate bulk quantities of story ideas and concept visualizations.

If Gene Roddenberry had access to AI in 1965, forget about it.

 

[Tone C]

Went to a comic con yesterday and a couple of illustrators had banners or signs up saying something like " buy from a real artist not AI "

 

[Beechwood]

I don't know but some artists are greatly concerned about AI. I've seen Elton John, Paul McCartney make mention about how AI could make it more difficult for younger artists to make a living at their profession.

I don't wonder about Universities. From what I've read most students these days use AI to do their homework.

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[TeTe]

I don't know but some artists are greatly concerned about AI. I've seen Elton John, Paul McCartney make mention about how AI could make it more difficult for younger artists to make a living at their profession.

I don't wonder about Universities. From what I've read most students these days use AI to do their homework.

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Academia dumbed itself down so much that AI can easily replace it.​

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The Internet is what has made making a living from your music difficult over the past 25 years. Just ask Lars Ulrich. Fortunately for musicians, they just raised the price of live performances by a lot since then to make up for it. Something people aren't going to pay AI for.

Also, if an instructor wanted to at a college, they could use AI to determine if a student used AI to do coursework. Of course there are other ways to prove a student's understanding of material than just having them write papers or do written homework. These students would be fucked if they had to defend their thought processes in person, which instructors should be making them do now.

 

[Losfer Words]

Feels like our technology has been shaping us for years to be much more attracted to experiences that are generated by and/or can be simulated by computers. Sex, music, movies, art, food etc. the things we are getting hung up on in this thread (human creativity vs computer simulation of creativity) will probably a non issue for the peeps being born right now.

 

[I Am Legion]

You are already seeing it everywhere. In writing, art, music, design etc. What it is doing is enabling people with less skill and talent, catch up to those that do. That's just the truth, I am seeing at work with emails and presentations already.

 

[Gigacardio]

I think people used to think artists were just as valuable as accountants, or plumbers, or programmers...

But since AI has really taken off it looks like artists are really the first victims to be replaced.

Does that change their value in your eyes at all?

Up until the crazy modern era no one thought artists were hugely valuable, little less as valuable as those who do skilled work.

 

[Fedorgasm]

You are already seeing it everywhere. In writing, art, music, design etc. What it is doing is enabling people with less skill and talent, catch up to those that do. That's just the truth, I am seeing at work with emails and presentations already.

Yeah so am I. It kind of sucks because I'm good at writing, and the people I would compete with for promotions and whatnot would have spelling/grammar errors, or they'd just not be as articulate, so it makes me look better.

But now everyone has these perfect emails all the time, so they're all labeled as good communicators.

And I've spent a lot of time getting good with Excel, so it's going to piss me off when everyone starts making awesome models and shit without understanding how they even work.

 

[Bballfan123]

Yeah so am I. It kind of sucks because I'm good at writing, and the people I would compete with for promotions and whatnot would have spelling/grammar errors, or they'd just not be as articulate, so it makes me look better.

But now everyone has these perfect emails all the time, so they're all labeled as good communicators.

And I've spent a lot of time getting good with Excel, so it's going to piss me off when everyone starts making awesome models and shit without understanding how they even work.

Hopefully the whole company will be replaced by a robot so no is one better than me

 

[PBAC]

Artists were never that valuable. What they do is impressive but it's entertainment and luxury, but not essential

I think AI will weed out the mediocre artists while the truly innovative artists would still thrive

I agree, but it's oddly sad that someone who can photorealistically draw a lake is more likely to be replaced in the artistic world over a surrealist or outsider artist. Not saying those are bad things. In reality that was happening anyway. I have seen people selling AI artwork as real before AI went maintstream.

 

[I Am Legion]

Yeah so am I. It kind of sucks because I'm good at writing, and the people I would compete with for promotions and whatnot would have spelling/grammar errors, or they'd just not be as articulate, so it makes me look better.

But now everyone has these perfect emails all the time, so they're all labeled as good communicators.

And I've spent a lot of time getting good with Excel, so it's going to piss me off when everyone starts making awesome models and shit without understanding how they even work.

It is really something. 2 years ago, we had people that were let go because of poor written communication skills. Now no one knows.

 

[mozfonky]

most artists have always been broke and things have always changed and so artists have always had to adapt. I think they said the genius of picasso was competing with the invention of photography by painting stuff in a bizarre new way that photos couldn't do.

Also, as a musician, most musicians have nothing to offer really except their attitudes. Most of them are arrogant, think they were cheated and lied to when all our parents told us to not be a musician and we end up bitter. No one needs another great singer and if they do, there are a million of them, no one needs a musician who's mastered all the riffs of a particular style, there are a million of them yet they moan and whine about how they get ripped off.

Too much supply, not enough demand like any other art form. There have always been a lot more actors than film roles. Who knows what kinds of talents we have missed because of that but I'm sure lots of other people could have rose up to the standards of Brando or whoever.

In music, it truly isn't anything new. Little Richard whined about getting ripped off for his music and only making half a penny off of each 45 sold and the motown artists complained about how berry gordy left them broke and sometimes suicidal. It's nothing new. Even Prince, MJ and Springsteen went through trials with the business end, it's never been a clean business to begin with.

And really, very little music by anyone really connects on a musical level, most of what sells is fresh, young and current "pop" imagery. Sometimes the quality of the songs is good, most times it's not but consumers are stupid and they'll by whatever is marketed to them.

 

[mozfonky]

It is really something. 2 years ago, we had people that were let go because of poor written communication skills. Now no one knows.

only my experience but communication is never simple or easy, no matter how good and clear things are communicated. It's one of the reasons I try to avoid most people.

 

[mozfonky]

I agree, but it's oddly sad that someone who can photorealistically draw a lake is more likely to be replaced in the artistic world over a surrealist or outsider artist. Not saying those are bad things. In reality that was happening anyway. I have seen people selling AI artwork as real before AI went maintstream.

either way, there will always be an enormous glut of everything. Who has time to sift through millions of songs or paintings or poems trying to find one that moves them? I don't.

 

[TheNinja]

totally wrong thats gonna be the only job as it will be the only source of human connection in a world where everyones best friend is a chatbot and their boss and coworkers are all computers

Yup. I think a lot of people do the OF and online sex cam stuff for the human connection. There is tons of any kind of porn you want out there. But it doesn’t meet the human need for a connection whether a real or fake /paid connection.

 

[Wrath of Foamy]

 

[Magooglie]

Everyone is going to be expendable sooner or later.

 

[mozfonky]

Everyone is going to be expendable sooner or later.

absolutely, I try to tell people to be good to others for that reason. At the very least, they won't cheer your demise.