Economy AOC and co. vindicated: Amazon expanding in NY without massive giveaway from gov.

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Ahhhhh they didn’t have to pay anything....in return for roughly 3B in incentives Amazon would generate 27.5B....that’s a 9:1 ratio goof ...over two decades. Even halfwit commie cuomo called it “the highest rate of return for an economic incentive program the state has ever offered.”

Sit down sir

Uhhh Amazon wasnt going to pay any taxes and was expecting NYC to pay them to set up shop. Fvk that. NYC is bigger than Amazon. Like I said, they can set up shop in a third world zhithole, and youd be there sucking Bezos dick.

Get off your knees sir and act like a man.

 

[AlexDB9]

Uhhh Amazon wasnt going to pay any taxes and was expecting NYC to pay them to set up shop. Fvk that. NYC is bigger than Amazon. Like I said, they can set up shop in a third world zhithole, and youd be there sucking Bezos dick for him.

Like I told the fake lawyer NY lost here any which way you guys spin it....billions with a b

Now @panamaican you see this post? That’s what I’d call a weird fantasy

 

[Deleted member 159002]

I hate when cities try to recruit businesses by offering X years without paying taxes. It creates a race to the bottom. Once the corporate welfare expires, the companies can close shop and relocate to another city full of suckers.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Like I told the fake lawyer NY lost here any which way you guys spin it....billions with a b

LOL so making Amazon pay the taxes it supposed to pay is 'losing billions'.

This is the propaganda youre going with now? Might wanna rethink that strategy.

 

[ElKarlo]

Hopefully this expands to cities subsidizing sports stadiums.
The owners of the teams that get the city or state to pay for the stadium, promise all this revenue to local businesses but it never pans out.

Yeah it's been a known scam since the 90s at least. Drop several hundred million dollars on a stadium, PLUS pay for road upgrades in the area. All for a few dozen players and a few dozen FT employees. It's never worth it.
In my hometown, FedEx field isn't used that much. I don't think it'll ever bring back it what it costs

 

[ElKarlo]

I hate when cities try to recruit businesses by offering X years without paying taxes. It creates a race to the bottom. Once the corporate welfare expires, the companies can close shop and relocate to another city full of suckers.

NPR had a special on that a year or two ago. About both Kansas cities doing so. Most companies move across the street every few years. It's stupid

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

I hate when cities try to recruit businesses by offering X years without paying taxes. It creates a race to the bottom. Once the corporate welfare expires, the companies can close shop and relocate to another city full of suckers.

Dude would you rather have Amazon move to Somalia!!!

Get down on your knees like Alexdb59!

 

[VivaRevolution]

But that isn't what the corporate socialists said would happen.

If you don't give them free money, no jobs. That's the deal.

 

[AlexDB9]

LOL so making Amazon pay the taxes it supposed to pay is 'losing billions'.

This is the propaganda youre going with now? Might wanna rethink that strategy.

Goof troop gonna goof troop, my only advice to you is to visit Wu Tang Financial cause

 

[VivaRevolution]

Like I told the fake lawyer NY lost here any which way you guys spin it....billions with a b

Now @panamaican you see this post? That’s what I’d call a weird fantasy

Lol at all the corporate socialists.

 

[nostradumbass]

LOL so making Amazon pay the taxes it supposed to pay is 'losing billions'.

This is the propaganda youre going with now? Might wanna rethink that strategy.

If they said no and don't have the headquarters and the jobs to tax, then obviously they lose that money. You can't "make them pay" if the headquarters and jobs don't exist. Are you still with AOC's "we have $3 billion to spend now that the HQ2 isn't coming here anymore"? Must be how they paid for that public infrastructure that she said was a crumbling mess a few months ago and now is suddenly "very attractive to businesses" when she's trying to save face for blowing the deal.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Goof troop gonna goof troop, my only advice to you is to visit Wu Tang Financial cause

Derp goof goof goof goof

Another quality post by you. Got no anecdotes to back yourself up this time? Quick better make one up.

 

[AlexDB9]

Derp goof goof goof goof

Another quality post by you. Got no anecdotes to back yourself up this time? Quick better make one up.

Yes it’s that you’re a goof ball and member of the idiotic goof troop. I feel sorry for your words on my screen

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

If they said no and don't have the headquarters and the jobs to tax, then obviously they lose that money. You can't "make them pay" if the headquarters and jobs don't exist.

How fitting you used a gif from Dumb and Dumber. I always think of that movie when I read yours and Alex's posts.

If they said no, which they did, they would have not had to pay out 3 Billion$ so they saved that money, and now Amazon is expanding anyway which means they are getting extra tax revenue.

I thought you right-wingers on here were supposed to be capitalistic geniuses?

 

[Phisher]

I Agree, it was disgusting. I felt it was basically getting cities and states to whore themselves out. It was awful and it shows what's wrong with the US. Places should get businesses based on their tax laws and employees and such. Not on how far they'll bend over. Honestly I think AOC did the right thing here and I don't like her at all

The same thing happens there's a bidding war for pro sports franchises to move to a particular city. The deals offered are usually so generous that they cancel out any financial benefit of the team moving into that area.

Look at how the Rams fucked St. Louis. They're still paying for the stadium, and all of the bondholders got screwed.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Yes it’s that you’re a goof ball and member of the idiotic goof troop. I feel sorry for your words on my screen

So you have no more arguments and are resorting to calling people 'goofs'.

Concession accepted.

 

[AlexDB9]

Lol at all the corporate socialists.

Sadly we can’t burn it all to the ground huh? I guess you guys just think you have some Robin Hood mentality where you think you are fighting for the people and bashing “dem corporate cucks”

Right now, in this point in time, NY and it’s people lost a lot of money and opportunity that’s all there is to it

 

[AlexDB9]

So you have no more arguments and are resorting to calling people 'goofs'.

Concession accepted.

Haha if you want to feel like you’ve won against words on screen be my guest

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

That article says nothing about Amazon adding jobs, or at least how many. All it says is that Amazon has increased its office space in Manhattan-- which isn't AOC's bloc. Meanwhile, the headquarters in her Queens district were canceled planned for Long Island City in that borough. You should have read the WSJ article:

This isn't a new project. It's just an expansion of a previous HQ in Manhattan. Amazon already previously said it would add to the 5,000 jobs that exist in Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Staten Island. So I wonder how many jobs are added by tripling the office space in a borough that already splits 5,000 jobs with two other boroughs. Conversely, the Queens HQ was going to support 50,000 jobs. Those all went to Virginia who did offer incentives.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/27/amazon-is-reportedly-eyeing-office-space-on-manhattans-west-side/

Amazon's expansion is undoubtedly the result of a booming economy including increased consumer spending (not just on electronics). It can't be unexpected that they will expand. The question is how many jobs does that expansion brings to Queens.

AOC is almost as dumb as the people who think she isn't dumb.

Where are you seeing that all 50K jobs went to Virginia?

 

[AlexDB9]

How fitting you used a gif from Dumb and Dumber. I always think of that movie when I read yours and Alex's posts.

If they said no, which they did, they would have not had to pay out 3 Billion$ so they saved that money, and now Amazon is expanding anyway which means they are getting extra tax revenue.

I thought you right-wingers on here were supposed to be capitalistic geniuses?

Quoting for prosperity

You like to throw around the word “idiot” a lot and you just exposed yourself. Again NY wasn’t saving or paying 3B, they were going to forgoe taxes they wouldn’t even get if Amazon wasn’t coming in the first place. I see you and she guevara share he same IQ. Sad