Any blatant benefits of pull ups for a powerlifter and Olympic lifter?

[KnightTemplar]

I have the same bodyweight as this guy. Now if I do more pull ups than him... Then I would have one insane upper back. Complete too, since I can clean pull 245 pounds for a five rep max.

Yeah. I should specialize in it for a while. Gonna put my squat and pull at maintenance and put everything into increasing pull up strength.

No medical doctor would be able to call me pre-diabetically fat if I can do four strict pull ups.

You wanna know what else is interesting? Even the way I write is a cope. I'd say "four reps" instead of "4 reps". I'd only type it as a number if it reaches three digits. That's perfection, even in writing.

As has already been said: don't Major in the Minors. Prioritizing pull ups at the expense of Squats, Deadlifts etc is dumb. Pull Ups respond best to volume. So just add them to your normal workout. If you can't do full range of motion pull ups, do negatives or band assisted until you can.

Even better, buy a pull up bar and practice at home.

You're overthinking things way too much. Consistency is king. Dropping the intensity of your Squats etc just to get better at a bodyweight exercise is stupid.

 

[Baby Hanma]

As has already been said: don't Major in the Minors. Prioritizing pull ups at the expense of Squats, Deadlifts etc is dumb. Pull Ups respond best to volume. So just add them to your normal workout. If you can't do full range of motion pull ups, do negatives or band assisted until you can.

Even better, buy a pull up bar and practice at home.

You're overthinking things way too much. Consistency is king. Dropping the intensity of your Squats etc just to get better at a bodyweight exercise is stupid.

Thanks.

 

[wufabufa]

Vertical pulling would add some balance and stability to the shoulder girdle since both sports are pretty pressing intensive. I think it makes sense from a healthy shoulders perspective but I can't say that focusing on pullups would actually make your total significantly higher. One of the reasons I could see them being detrimental when Oly lifting is that it could cause your biceps to grow larger and that might hinder your clean if you've got extra soft tissue approximation when front racking the bar.

 

[Baby Hanma]

Vertical pulling would add some balance and stability to the shoulder girdle since both sports are pretty pressing intensive. I think it makes sense from a healthy shoulders perspective but I can't say that focusing on pullups would actually make your total significantly higher. One of the reasons I could see them being detrimental when Oly lifting is that it could cause your biceps to grow larger and that might hinder your clean if you've got extra soft tissue approximation when front racking the bar.

Thank you.

Longevity is part of the Iron game, so if I can have longevity by enhancing joint health, I should probably do it. I'll be a Masters division powerlifting and Olympic lifting champion yet.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Thanks.

Welcome.

 

[Baby Hanma]

Welcome.

I guess my main issue with your advice is that I think you're overestimating an athlete's energy levels. There are only so many things that you can go hard on. You have to limit things if you want to keep making progress. And it's not like I'm completely skipping legs and glutes for months.

 

[maximus__]

I guess my main issue with your advice is that I think you're overestimating an athlete's energy levels. There are only so many things that you can go hard on. You have to limit things if you want to keep making progress. And it's not like I'm completely skipping legs and glutes for months.

Just improve your general conditioning and work capacity. It's a pullup not a 1RM deadlift done at 2-3x your bodyweight.

Your spending all your time worrying about recovery, without ever training hard enough to stress about that.

You aren't lifting heavy enough for it to cause a major issues. You squat around the 1.5x BW level and are doing negative pullups at this stage. At most your in the position to do 3-5 sets of singles or negatives for the next month or two.

Just do your normal workout with some pullups added as a warm up until you can do one. Then do singles until you can do 2.

Youre talking about structuring your entire program around doing something that is achievable for the average male with no training. It makes no sense.

 

[NoSmilez]

Being fat or heavy doesn't excuse someone from not being able to do pull ups.

 

[Oblivian]

I have a pullup bar in my house. I do pullups on the days that I don't have time for normal lifting or when I'm doing other shit at the house. If I've got an hour or so while multitasking, I'll just do a shitload of sets of 4-5. When pressed on time, it will be sets of 8-10. I literally do zero thinking on the progression, and I get better. This really isn't complicated.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I have a pullup bar in my house. I do pullups on the days that I don't have time for normal lifting or when I'm doing other shit at the house. If I've got an hour or so while multitasking, I'll just do a shitload of sets of 4-5. When pressed on time, it will be sets of 8-10. I literally do zero thinking on the progression, and I get better. This really isn't complicated.

i have a question on that, this implies starting rendom sets cold right? Don t you need to warm up first before doing chin ups?

 

[Oblivian]

i have a question on that, this implies starting rendom sets cold right? Don t you need to warm up first before doing chin ups?

I'm old as dirt and do not need warmup for chins/pullups. My max reps is in the upper teens probably (haven't done a max set for a while), so anything around 8 or less is easy and almost a warmup in itself. More often than not, I'm doing a shitload of sets of 4-5 though. On the 8-10 (or sometimes higher), I'm probably starting with around 8. I probably would never jump into 10+ though.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I'm old as dirt and do not need warmup for chins/pullups. My max reps is in the upper teens probably (haven't done a max set for a while), so anything around 8 or less is easy and almost a warmup in itself. More often than not, I'm doing a shitload of sets of 4-5 though. On the 8-10 (or sometimes higher), I'm probably starting with around 8. I probably would never jump into 10+ though.

Hmmmm for most people would you not recommend warming up first by elevating heartrate, rotating shoulders etc

 

[Oblivian]

Hmmmm for most people would you not recommend warming up first by elevating heartrate, rotating shoulders etc

Not for anyone capable of high reps. Doing less than 50% of your max reps is a warmup in itself. Similarly, I have days when I'm not lifting due to time and I just do pushups. I'm either doing work around the house while doing them and just doing multiple sets of 10-20, or short of time and doing sets of 25-35. For a guy that can do 50+ pretty easily (haven't tested top rep for many years), those rep ranges are still pretty much a warmup. It's not much different than just warmup up lifting and ramping up in weight.