Crime Antifa gets cancelled

[Crazy Source]

I agree. We will see what happens.

You have a great hospital in Virginia Beach. Took a ride there with a nice shot of morphine. I saw 2 gunshot wound patients. I saw another one that looked like he got clubbed with a mallet to his head. I didn't sleep that night waiting for my surgery. I can't sleep tight with suffering around. My bill? $14,000.

They will never get the money from me.

 

[TUFNewb]

You cannot just generally wave a hand at "groups who do ________" You have to have specific targets in mind. You just gave the bare minimum vague description of ANY terrorist group. Pick one that is "Antifa" in ideology that you're talking about. Because I can give you an entire list of right wing accelerationist and white supremacist ones, and they don't get busted on "terrorism" charges because there's no statute. They get brought up on things like illegal possession of firearms. They do surprisingly little time in prison for the sh*t they try to do, also.

I'm not saying you put them in the same category as right-wing terrorist mass murderers. I do think they create a cycle of attacks and they normalize violence in public discourse. I think there is more of them and they're all over the place, acting independently but as one at the same time. It must be very challenging to deal with if you are trying to police large gatherings. They are sort of like a flock of birds, simple behavioural rules allow them to move in the same direction. This deserves a special designation and special investigators.

 

[Sinister]

Leftists are literally incapable of discussing leftist violence. They have to resort to nebulous recollections of right wing violence, which is mostly made up by the hard left doj to begin with.

This is how you geniuses respond when asked to name a SINGLE leftist organization that is "Antifa" in ideology and regularly engages in violent activity. Because you dont know any. It's ok, we know you don't.

 

[TUFNewb]

And what's there to fight in court?

I don't know. Can the president just unilaterally designate a domestic group as a "terrorist organization" on a whim?

AFAIK there is no "Domestic Terrorist Organization" list like there is for foreign terrorists.

Are you arguing that Americans voted in a dictator?

The second time they knew what they were getting.

 

[avenue94]

I don't know. Can the president just unilaterally designate a domestic group as a "terrorist organization" on a whim?

AFAIK there is no "Domestic Terrorist Organization" list like there is for foreign terrorists.

No. Do you American civics, bro?

You just explained why not.

The second time they knew what they were getting.

If only there were constitutional safeguards to avoid idiotic ideas that end in tragedy...

 

[Sinister]

I'm not saying you put them in the same category as right-wing terrorist mass murderers. I do think they create a cycle of attacks and they normalize violence in public discourse. I think there is more of them and they're all over the place, acting independently but as one at the same time. It must be very challenging to deal with if you are trying to police large gatherings. They are sort of like a flock of birds, simple behavioural rules allow them to move in the same direction. This deserves a special designation and special investigators.

The amount of leftist violence is dwarfed by rignt wing violence. But one is being amplified and the other downplayed BY the Government. And dorks in here are acting like that's just a coincidence.

It's not. And through ICE, right wing violence is institutionalized.

 

[sanguinius]

This is how you geniuses respond when asked to name a SINGLE leftist organization that is "Antifa" in ideology and regularly engages in violent activity. Because you dont know any. It's ok, we know you don't.

“It isn’t actually real, also here is a white supremacist that killed his wife 30 years ago STOP TALKING ABOUT ABOUT LEFTIST VIOLENCE!”

Lol k

 

[sanguinius]

The amount of leftist violence is dwarfed by rignt wing violence. But one is being amplified and the other downplayed BY the Government. And dorks in here are acting like that's just a coincidence.

It's not. And through ICE, right wing violence is institutionalized.

Yes, one side is being unfairly prosecuted and labeled by a partisan doj and the other gets bailed out during terrorist attacks by sitting democrats.

People haven’t forgotten the summer of peace. Democrats burned the country for a drug addict that died of an overdose and their violence was directly funded and supported by the democrats, party of political violence.

 

[Sinister]

“It isn’t actually real, also here is a white supremacist that killed his wife 30 years ago STOP TALKING ABOUT ABOUT LEFTIST VIOLENCE!”

Lol

Aaaaaand still cannot name a single organization.

 

[sanguinius]

Aaaaaand still cannot name a single organization.

Oh, antifa. The thing we are talking about. Did you forget?

 

[TUFNewb]

No. Do you American civics, bro?

You just explained why not.

If only there were constitutional safeguards to avoid idiotic ideas that end in tragedy...

Not really... but I assumed there was checks and balances. I also assume he can just direct agencies to prioritize investigating them and allocate resources. Is he willing to really get involved? Or will he just use the bully pulpit? I guess we will see how it plays out. If it is just Trump virtue signalling you and Antifa have nothing to worry about.

 

[Sinister]

Oh, antifa. The thing we are talking about. Did you forget?

Your own administration, your Supreme Leader has already admitted that Antifa is not an organization.

Womp womp

 

[sanguinius]

Your own administration, your Supreme Leader has already admitted that Antifa is not an organization.

Womp womp

weird, and yet I’m saying it is.
Do you frequently use trump as a be all to define things?

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

What have I tried to minimize? I never claimed they were merely localized vandals.

There's the mask off moment, you're proposing an out and out police state, to be run by a transparently illiberal government that has repeatedly abused laws to target its rivals.

What has Antifa done that was remotely comparable to AQ?

And like I told your fellow foreign chipper: If you want the govenrment to designate domestic terrorists, it needs laws to do so. So why not write your congressman and have them put forward legislation to that effect?

You implied it with your shit argument.

And lol @ the mask off moment not being you just trying to defend terrorists because you're politically sympathetic to their plight. If Trump's rivals are terrorists and people that align themselves with those terrorists, then what are you worried about?

The rest of the world knows who Antifa are and what they can become. Take it from a Greek, we have more experience on this front. It's merely fermenting in America. Nip it in the bud and stop victimizing yourself.

 

[cabal]

Well I have established that they do not need one to be classified as a terror organization.

I have established that leaderless left-wing groups have carried out terror bombings and shootings in places like Spain, Italy, Greece and Turkey. That law enforcement has classified them as terrorists.

Can you please explain how Europol is wrong to think that terror orgs can be decentralized?

The fascist terrorists used bombs, the red ones ( being more) killer people with guns. Homosexuals and simple protesters howewer where never classified as terrorists.

 

[nhbbear]

Insane? You're a fool.









We get that Trantifa is a big thing for the Left, but these are some of the mild videos of what they did to have a man with a hard on in the women's locker room.

Do you need videos of ANTIFA being violent in Portland? HB?

How uniformed are you?

Damn, I wish just once I could be there. Antifa goons would be sleeping on the sidewalks like homeless. I am so sick of these twats ganging up on weak people that are not allowed to express their options-only antifa are allowed to protest in these areas.

 

[avenue94]

Not really... but I assumed there was checks and balances. I also assume he can just direct agencies to prioritize investigating them and allocate resources. Is he willing to really get involved? Or will he just use the bully pulpit? I guess we will see how it plays out. If it is just Trump virtue signalling you and Antifa have nothing to worry about.

Checks and balances only work when institutions are healthy and independent, which isn't the case often these days. They also don't undo the damages that happen in the time it takes a court case to wind its way through the system.

He's free to tell agencies to prioritize Antifa, but the issue is he tends to throw a tantrum when inevitably his witch hunts don't pan out. See his messages to Bondi.

You implied it with your shit argument.

Terrorism isn't some automatic escalator in badness. A school shooter or rapist probably isn't at terrorist, for example, but that doesn't minimize the severity of their offense.

And lol @ the mask off moment not being you just trying to defend terrorists because you're politically sympathetic to their plight. If Trump's rivals are terrorists and people that align themselves with those terrorists, then what are you worried about?

The rest of the world knows who Antifa are and what they can become. Take it from a Greek, we have more experience on this front. It's merely fermenting in America. Nip it in the bud and stop victimizing yourself.

Where am I defending terrorists? You've now hit the due process is supporting terrorism level of bootlicking?

And what do you as a Greek have more experience with? Right wing dictators?

 

[Omni1]

Mr. Trump is ramping it up. I'm not surprised

Well, better late than never. This should have been done during his last administration.

 

[Hog-train]

Antifa isn't one single organization. However local chapters are organized and funded by NGO's.

The one in Portland has been protesting 24/7 for like 3 months and getting violent.

I have no problem with peaceful protest and it's (potentially dangerous) to crack down on it, but when they start getting violent is the problem.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Terrorism isn't some automatic escalator in badness. A school shooter or rapist probably isn't at terrorist, for example, but that doesn't minimize the severity of their offense.

Where am I defending terrorists? You've now hit the due process is supporting terrorism level of bootlicking?

And what do you as a Greek have more experience with? Right wing dictators?

No one said it's an automatic escalator in badness, dip shit. It does, however, give a broader range of tools to work with.

Greeks have more experience with everything politics wise, we invented everything, including democracy. But no, I'm talking about Antifa and probably rioting in general while were at it.While the American variety are limp twisted trans-tifas, in Greece they are actually scary and if you were in the midst of them rioting you'd probably piss yourself.



You guys have made a career out of talking about Jan 6 as a violent insurrection, I'm curious to see how you'd define something like this as anything other than a terrorist attack.