Crime Antifa gets cancelled

[avenue94]

No one said it's an automatic escalator in badness, dip shit. It does, however, give a broader range of tools to work with.

And yet you accuse me of minimizing transgressions by stating the obvious: this is a naked attempt to crack down on leftists with no judicial or legislative justification by creating an domestic equivalent of FTO's for an ideology.

Greeks have more experience with everything politics wise, we invented everything, including democracy.

Talk about coasting on ancient history, but whatever, we'll just ignore that Greece transitioned away from autocracy or being ruled by a king way later than most modern democracies.

You guys have made a career out of talking about Jan 6 as a violent insurrection, I'm curious to see how you'd define something like this as anything other than a terrorist attack.

Unless they're actually trying to overthrow the government, I would consider mass disorder, not an insurrection. Same with terrorism, unless there's evidence of organized attempts to overthrow the government or target certain political groups via mass terror, it's primarily mass disorder.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

And yet you accuse me of minimizing transgressions by stating the obvious: this is a naked attempt to crack down on leftists with no judicial or legislative justification by creating an domestic equivalent of FTO's for an ideology.

Talk about coasting on ancient history, but whatever, we'll just ignore that Greece transitioned away from autocracy or being ruled by a king way later than most modern democracies.

Unless they're actually trying to overthrow the government, I would consider mass disorder, not an insurrection. Same with terrorism, unless there's evidence of organized attempts to overthrow the government or target certain political groups via mass terror, it's primarily mass disorder.

You're minimizing the scope and scale, not necessarily the transgression and you're being a little weasel about it. You've compared them to the raider nation because they both rally behind an insignia/flag likening a politically motivated group with a significant historical presence across the western world.......to a fucking sports team and their fans. You've asked how these people become members as if to suggest they simply don't organize or coordinate, you ask stupid questions like "hur dur...if a 14 year old wears the get up are they also a part of antifa?!"

Your entire perception of how criminal enterprises operate seemingly comes out of a cartoon.

It's like you think these people aren't avidly trying to conceal their identity, like most criminals do (gee I wonder why) and that they should all have membership cards and tattoos on their foreheads designating their affiliation. These aren't prison gangs or the Yakuza we're talking about. They don't have some neatly organized onboarding process, and to suggest that anything short of that means that all attempts at classification or terrorist designations are nonsensical is just stupid.

And LOL at minimizing the Molotov cocktailing of the fucking Parliament building in Athens, something that makes Jan 6 look like a pillow fight, as just mass disorder.

Dog, you're transparent as fuck and aren't fooling anyone.

 

[avenue94]

You're minimizing the scope and scale, not necessarily the transgression and you're being a little weasel about it. You've compared them to the raider nation because they both rally behind an insignia/flag likening a politically motivated group with a significant historical presence across the western world.......to a fucking sports team and their fans. You've asked how these people become members as if to suggest they simply don't organize or coordinate, you ask stupid questions like "hur dur...if a 14 year old wears the get up are they also a part of antifa?!"

Where did I minimize the scope and scale? And no, I did not say Antifa's conduct is comparable to Raiders Nation. I pointed out your definition was so bad it couldn't distinguish between the two, legally speaking.

It's like you think these people aren't avidly trying to conceal their identity, like most criminals do (gee I wonder why) and that they should all have membership cards and tattoos on their foreheads designating their affiliation. These aren't prison gangs or the Yakuza we're talking about. They don't have some neatly organized onboarding process, and to suggest that anything short of that means that all attempts at classification or terrorist designations are nonsensical is just stupid.

Except most terror organizations do have membership guidelines, practices and enough organization to designate as FTOs. That's how they were designated in the first place.

And LOL at minimizing the Molotov cocktailing of the fucking Parliament building in Athens, something that makes Jan 6 look like a pillow fight, as just mass disorder.

Dog, you're transparent as fuck and aren't fooling anyone.

Was that person throwing a molotov at Parliament seeking to overthrow the democratic regime currently in charge of Greece? I'm seriously asking, I'm not a mind reader and presumably you know your countries' news better than me.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Where did I minimize the scope and scale? And no, I did not say Antifa's conduct is comparable to Raiders Nation. I pointed out your definition was so bad it couldn't distinguish between the two, legally speaking.

Except most terror organizations do have membership guidelines, practices and enough organization to designate as FTOs. That's how they were designated in the first place.

Was that person throwing a molotov at Parliament seeking to overthrow the democratic regime currently in charge of Greece? I'm seriously asking, I'm not a mind reader and presumably you know your countries' news better than me.

I mean, I just literally explained it to you. You're being willfully obtuse because you know what you're doing. Like, the sentence "Was that person throwing a molotov at Parliament seeking to overthrow the democratic regime currently in charge of Greece?" Almost reads as satire.

Most terrorist groups do? Go on let's hear about the application processes of these terrorist organizations and tell me all about the onboarding process.

 

[avenue94]

I mean, I just literally explained it to you. You're being willfully obtuse because you know what you're doing. Like, the sentence "Was that person throwing a molotov at Parliament seeking to overthrow the democratic regime currently in charge of Greece?" Almost reads as satire.

Your attempt at defining terrorism appears to be "whatever I don't like and deem terrorism." Terrorism has a very narrow definition based on intent. Does Greece have a different definition?

I mean, I just literally explained it to you. You're being willfully obtuse because you know what you're doing. Like, the sentence "Was that person throwing a molotov at Parliament seeking to overthrow the democratic regime currently in charge of Greece?" Almost reads as satire.

Most terrorist groups do? Go on let's hear about the application processes of these terrorist organizations and tell me all about the onboarding process.

Which group are you asking about? And note this is what I said, and you're attempting to twist.

Except most terror organizations do have membership guidelines, practices and enough organization to designate as FTOs. That's how they were designated in the first place.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Your attempt at defining terrorism appears to be "whatever I don't like and deem terrorism." Terrorism has a very narrow definition based on intent. Does Greece have a different definition?

Which group are you asking about? And note this is what I said, and you're attempting to twist.

No, it doesn't. Seems more like your currently projecting. I've been pretty consistent with the idea that these are politically motivated actors using violence to further their objectives which is a far cry from your ridiculous characterization of "it's whatever you feel like."

But here's the definition from Google:

ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun

1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims

Seems to perfectly describe antifa.

Here it is from the CIA:

International terrorism:

International terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored)

Domestic:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature

Also, feel free to tell me about any of the "most" with respect to their application process since that's what designated in the first place.....it should be all of them, yea? Shouldn't be difficult.

 

[Khaosan]

Cancel Antifa and arrest their leader!!!!

Can someone tell me who that is?

... anyone?

 

[heloder]

Cancel Antifa and arrest their leader!!!!

Can someone tell me who that is?

... anyone?

The greatest Antifa of all.

 

[SurferH2O]

The greatest Antifa of all.

He never blocked traffic for Americans, attacked innocent citizens, trashed towns, and supported women with dicks in Women's locker rooms.

Just saying... they're nowhere close to the same. The Left names things the opposite of what they are. ANTIFA is a bunch of losers with fascist tendencies.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Labeling Antifa as a terrorist org, but they gave the Proud Boys and the people who participated in Jan 6th a pardon….

They should throw both groups into an empty closed stadium and let them bang. Isn't that what they want?

 

[Flower2dPeople]

 

[ocfightfan]

They are the american taliban.

 

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[HwoarangStyle]

dumb bitch

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[RemyR]

 

[sanguinius]

Must have been those famous right wing maga portland guys attacking innocent black people. Mark another point for right wing terrorism.

 

[S Class]

Which Shertifa member is this?

 

[UberHere]

Good. Fuck all of them.