Andrew Tate arrested



Its a long video yes. But they dive right into it. So if you watch even only the first five minutes or so.. you at least get their side of this strange thing
 
chardog said:
they are not separate things, I was putting it in laymen's terms.

pimps and sex trafficking are quite commonly associated.

the idea is that by pimping the girls out, they cannot represent themselves, hence sex trafficking charges, they are very closely related.

Pimp recruits and maintains by promoting riches and lifestyle. Tate is on tape saying how he recruits these girls, that much I recall. Stealing their money and all that stuff is the gray area I was talking about. That has always been the case when it comes to these types of social businesses, although, most of the time, it's spelled out. Take youtube for instance, they can demonetize someone and still reap the benefits of content...... is that stealing?

I have briefly followed the story, and I don't quite buy Tate's full story, sure as heck not buying his tiktok angle, but the sex work is what makes it open season on him.

in short, it's pimping and the byproduct was more in the form of porn which is legal in society. Because of this, there should NOT be a sex trafficking angle where the girls involved cannot testify, they should testify as needed. The sex trafficking angle is bullshit and used as technical legal workaround.
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Tate is in trouble for tricking girls to fly to Romania (many of whom have never done sex work), using a "bottom bitch" to try to manipulate and control them to do sex cam work in basically a sweatshop, keeping them purposefully broke and isolated from friends and family so they have no choice, and using psychological and physical abuse to get them compliant. That's trafficking and not simply pimping.

He literally admitted a lot of this on tapes. He also talked on tape about defrauding the girl's cut of the money by pretending to pay taxes on their income stream. There are allegations (not yet proven) of him taking their passports as well - but that's not really proven yet. The other stuff is basically admitted too already on Tate's earlier video vlogs.

"Sex trafficking crimes are very often confused with pandering and pimping, which are typically associated with a consenting prostitute who is over the age of 18."

https://jsberrylaw.com/blog/panderi... type of human trafficking,over the age of 18.
 
Hog-train said:
Tate is in trouble for tricking girls to fly to Romania (many of whom have never done sex work), using a "bottom bitch" to try to manipulate and control them to do sex cam work in basically a sweatshop, keeping them purposefully broke and isolated from friends and family so they have no choice, and using psychological and physical abuse to get them compliant. That's trafficking and not simply pimping.

He literally admitted a lot of this on tapes. He also talked on tape about defrauding the girl's cut of the money by pretending to pay taxes on their income stream. There are allegations (not yet proven) of him taking their passports as well - but that's not really proven yet. The other stuff is basically admitted too already on Tate's earlier video vlogs.

"Sex trafficking crimes are very often confused with pandering and pimping, which are typically associated with a consenting prostitute who is over the age of 18."

https://jsberrylaw.com/blog/pandering-vs-trafficking/#:~:text=A type of human trafficking,over the age of 18.
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from my brief understanding of the case, Tate brothers have women workers, who were also in jail for the same amount of time.

the ladies were enforcing rules and taking a cut for the business they formed.

Tiktok funneling users over to Onlyfans

this is a common and legal way of promotion.

lets break it down
1. Flying in ladies - this is not uncommon in the porn business, not uncommon in sports, you want top talent? you fly them in, you give scholarships, etc. This will isolate by design, which makes it highly subjective. Should lebron sue for being flown into LA because he was offered and paid millions to work here?
2. Keeping them broke............ dont know how much the tate brothers were skimming, but that is the nature of all work. youtube takes a lot from creators, hell, they even demonetize for arbitrary reasons and dont pay at all on some content. This is a civil case.
3. pimping is needed in order for trafficking to exist, and since he's on the books with onlyfans, this is legal stuff, not as simple as prostitution.
4. Taking passports....

I'm not familiar with what tate says on video, but according to reuters:
The suspected accomplices, Georgiana Naghel and Luana Radu, controlled the six victims' OnlyFans and TikTok accounts on behalf of the Tates, skimming off half the revenue and fining women for being late or sniffling on camera, said prosecutors.

The pair threatened to beat the women up if they did not do their job, according to the court document.

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what he says, and what was happening is different. The ladies could have implicated the tate brothers by now, if they were given orders to threaten the girls, and even that has not been proven, since no girl has spoken out.

Georgiana
Luana https://www.the-sun.com/news/7708990/andrew-tate-angel-luana-radu-police/
 
BIKES! said:
I'm not invested in this but the whole case is an obvious set up. Of course people like Tate who speak out of their ass incessantly don't remember verbatim everything they say.
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For someone not invested you sure have a lot of posts in this thread defending Tate or at the very least trying to muddy the waters. And if you're not invested, how have you done the leg work looking into to the case to form an opinion, a strong one at that calling it an "obvious setup"
 
chardog said:
from my brief understanding of the case, Tate brothers have women workers, who were also in jail for the same amount of time.

the ladies were enforcing rules and taking a cut for the business they formed.

Tiktok funneling users over to Onlyfans

this is a common and legal way of promotion.

lets break it down
1. Flying in ladies - this is not uncommon in the porn business, not uncommon in sports, you want top talent? you fly them in, you give scholarships, etc. This will isolate by design, which makes it highly subjective. Should lebron sue for being flown into LA because he was offered and paid millions to work here?
2. Keeping them broke............ dont know how much the tate brothers were skimming, but that is the nature of all work. youtube takes a lot from creators, hell, they even demonetize for arbitrary reasons and dont pay at all on some content. This is a civil case.
3. pimping is needed in order for trafficking to exist, and since he's on the books with onlyfans, this is legal stuff, not as simple as prostitution.
4. Taking passports....

I'm not familiar with what tate says on video, but according to reuters:
The suspected accomplices, Georgiana Naghel and Luana Radu, controlled the six victims' OnlyFans and TikTok accounts on behalf of the Tates, skimming off half the revenue and fining women for being late or sniffling on camera, said prosecutors.

The pair threatened to beat the women up if they did not do their job, according to the court document.

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what he says, and what was happening is different. The ladies could have implicated the tate brothers by now, if they were given orders to threaten the girls, and even that has not been proven, since no girl has spoken out.

Georgiana
Luana https://www.the-sun.com/news/7708990/andrew-tate-angel-luana-radu-police/
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Yea nothing has been proven because the trial isn't taken place obviously. But there are text messages out showing these 2 talking about and threatening physical violence because some of the girls didn't pull in enough money. And a lot of other leaked texts. It's not looking good.

All the current info is out there if one wants to look.

EU lawyer's take. He thinks they're fucked.

 
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His virgin lemmings will be all over this being it's conjecture and he had his minions do it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66604827

Click the link, I don't want to post all of it here, it's HORRID.


Andrew Tate: Chats in 'War Room' suggest dozens of women groomed
Evidence that dozens of women were groomed into online sex work by members of influencer Andrew Tate's "War Room" group has been uncovered by the BBC.

Leaked internal chat logs identify 45 potential victims between March 2019 and April 2020 but the total number is likely to be higher.

The texts also appear to show the techniques used by War Room members to exploit possible victims.

Mr Tate denies any wrongdoing and says he is prepared to defend his innocence.


Warning: Some readers may find details of this report disturbing

A statement issued by his press officer said the BBC's findings represent "another brazen attempt to present one-sided, unverified" allegations against him.


The 36-year-old former kickboxer has been charged in Romania with rape and human trafficking.

On 4 August he was released from house arrest pending his trial. Last week details of graphic evidence compiled by Romanian prosecutors were revealed by the BBC.

His brother Tristan and two associates also face charges. All have denied the allegations.

The BBC's latest investigation - outlined in the documentary Andrew Tate: The Man Who Groomed the World? - centres on 12,000 pages of encrypted Telegram messages sent by hundreds of War Room members.

However the BBC's access to the logs was limited to those sent over a period of 13 months - so the total number of women possibly targeted and exploited by the group, which was formed in 2019, could be much higher.

 
I hear if you buy a ticket to Sound of Freedom & say "stop human trafficking" 37 times in the mirror or into your phone, it completely makes up for glorifying and white washing a legitimate abusive pimp and his sex exploitation business.

When you have a Bugatti & a conservative traditional internet character/personality, that human trafficking hits different. You're just a "cool guy" then.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
I hear if you buy a ticket to Sound of Freedom & say "stop human trafficking" 37 times in the mirror or into your phone, it completely makes up for glorifying and white washing a legitimate abusive pimp and his sex exploitation business.

When you have a Bugatti & a conservative traditional internet character/personality, that human trafficking hits different. You're just a "cool guy" then.
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Plenty of virgins here adore him. He could show up in a Fiat Panda and they'd still lick his boots.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
I hear if you buy a ticket to Sound of Freedom & say "stop human trafficking" 37 times in the mirror or into your phone, it completely makes up for glorifying and white washing a legitimate abusive pimp and his sex exploitation business.

When you have a Bugatti & a conservative traditional internet character/personality, that human trafficking hits different. You're just a "cool guy" then.
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My favorite part is how DMs were leaked of him trying to recruit high school girls, and all the supposed anti groomers on here were still cucking for him. Guess they only hate it when it’s gay grooming.
 
WklySportsMemes said:
I can believe that. A dude that can get away with saying and doing whatever they want but than can virtue signal and shit on everyone else is their wet dream.
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I know said virgin hero worshipers here will pipe up and say he had nothing to do with this and the $8000 a year they were paying were another company he had no knowledge of or some such nonsense.
 
Blayt7hh said:
My favorite part is how DMs were leaked of him trying to recruit high school girls, and all the supposed anti groomers on here were still cucking for him. Guess they only hate it when it’s gay grooming.
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Thats because its more about demonizing and attacking the other side than truly caring about "da chiDren" or real life human trafficking.

Also, they are so desperate for a relevant topical celebrity endorser that pushes part of their real agenda. They are willing to surrender the virtue signaling for that. Its not a belief they really stand on.

Its simple to understand what Tate really is. Its pimping 101. Like the oldest game or trick in the book. Diabolical. Many of them or too sheltered to know its a thing as old as time. Or they are always the simp/trick/mark/john in the situation. So they don’t recognize game is being run on them.
-Find borderline attractive young naive women with clear issues that make them extremely vulnerable.
-Wine & dine them like Prince Charming
-Gain their trust and fully get them to commit and buy into your ideas fully. Solely relying on you for everything and to fill their vulnerability gap.
-Get them isolated from the outside world & former contacts
-Then boom you treat them like crap and abuse them when they don't comply
-They desperately will try to seek your approval or to revert back to your Prince Charming honeymoon stage by complying to anything you want.
-You show them just enough of that side to give them hope.
-Wash rinse & repeat with multiple victims making each one think that they are the #1 star or special amongst the group
-That creates another layer of control as to now these women will seek to comply or please you to gain the highest spot in the pecking order they can as they also keep eachother in line & self regulate.

The best part is, there were videos of Tate literally explaining this dynamic. Or even videos of him beating the shit out of vulnerable thots.
But NAH. Cool guy Tate.
 
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WklySportsMemes said:
Thats because its more about demonizing and attacking the other side than truly caring about "da chiDren" or real life human trafficking.

Also, they are so desperate for a relevant topical celebrity endorser that pushes part of their real agenda. They are willing to surrender the virtue signaling for that. Its not a belief they really stand on.

Its simple to understand what Tate really is. Its pimping 101. Like the oldest game or trick in the book. Diabolical. Many of them or too sheltered to know its a thing as old as time. Or they are always the simp/trick/mark/john in the situation. So they don’t recognize game is being run on them.
-Find borderline attractive young naive women with clear issues that make them extremely vulnerable.
-Wine & dine them like Prince Charming
-Gain their trust and fully get them to commit and buy into your ideas fully. Solely relying on you for everything and to fill their vulnerability gap.
-Get them isolated from the outside world & former contacts
-Then boom you treat them like crap and abuse them when they don't comply
-They desperately will try to seek your approval or to revert back to your Prince Charming honeymoon stage by complying to anything you want.
-You show them just enough of that side to give them hope.
-Wash rinse & repeat with multiple victims making each one think that they are the #1 star or special amongst the group
-That creates another layer of control as to now these women will seek to comply or please you to gain the highest spot in the pecking order they can as they also keep eachother in line & self regulate.

The best part is, there were videos of Tate literally explaining this dynamic. Or even videos of him beating the shit out of vulnerable thots.
But NAH. Cool guy Tate.
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There was some guy on here who's into scat porn as his thing (we all have our vices) trying to tell me that coercion and brainwashing were myths and no one has ever not been completely aware of what's going on in these scenarios.
 
fingercuffs said:
There was some guy on here who's into scat porn as his thing (we all have our vices) trying to tell me that coercion and brainwashing were myths and no one has ever not been completely aware of what's going on in these scenarios.
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The best part about it is, this isn't just some urban street myth.
Tell him to go argue that with licensed psychologist, aka real doctors about these medically & clinicly verified conditions & situations:
Father issues
Mommy issues
Stockholm Syndrome
Codependency
Group think
Mob mentality
Brainwashing
Controlling
Self Esteem
Self Worth
Psychological & verbal abuse
Physical Abuse
Indoctrination into a cult
Trauma from past events & occurrences

But then again I wouldn't have a serious conversation or give any credibility to a loser who gets turned on by feces. If he's willing to share that, imagine his skeletons........

Now I'm not saying all these women are victims. Many probably are. However, some are filthy no good thots that like men like that & the lifestyle.
Others were probably in the middle and got in over their heads. Others are just lazy looking for a quick easy buck and somebody to support them.
I also support free choices for consenting adults. Even if I think they are bad choices. However, it should be called what it is. It is human trafficking and pimping.
 
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What this guy does to these alpha males here they all get their finger snap side out
 
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