Andre the Giant vs. The Rock - Who's the bigger star in professional wrestling? (Semi-Finals)

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Andre the Giant vs. The Rock vs. 'Stone Cold' Steve Austin - Who's the bigger star in professional wrestling?



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Andre The Giant was a star all over the world and drew big money on 4 different continents, back when the entire rasslin business was very regional and localized

He was known to mainstream America because he was a larger than life figure that became a legit star in American pop culture back when very few rasslers in history achieved that status, it was basically just Gorgeous George in the 50's and then Andre in the 70's, that was the whole list to make it to that level

Andre toured the entire country nonstop for years, main eventing in every single town and territory with zero build up, he didnt have to be announced on television for several weeks ahead of time to get the fans interested in seeing him live at the arena, which was the standard procedure to build up a new star in the rasslin business

All the promoters had to do was simply say "Andre The Giant's gonna be in town this week", boom, instant butts in seats in every town on the circuit

Outside of the US, Andre was a main event star in Europe, Japan, Australia, Mexico


Flex Kavana couldnt even get over in Memphis


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Andre The Giant was a star all over the world and drew big money on 4 different continents, back when the entire rasslin business was very regional and localized

He was known to mainstream America because he was a larger than life figure that became a legit star in American pop culture back when very few rasslers in history achieved that status, it was basically just Gorgeous George in the 50's and then Andre in the 70's, that was the whole list to make it to that level


Flex Kavana couldnt even get over in Memphis


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Rocky has never had a performance like Andre did in The Princess Bride either
 
Rocky has never had a performance like Andre did in The Princess Bride either
With the exception of a handful of movies, The Rock's Hollywood career has been a gigantic letdown. He could have been the next Arnold or Sly but he's made almost nothing but terrible choices for his movies. I liked Faster, Snitch, Fast Five, Furious 7. I can't think of too many others that I actually liked. So I think it's safe to say the rest are dogshit.


Btw, I think Rock is the definitive #3 star of all time in wrestling. I'd probably put Andre at 4.
 
As a non pro wrestling fan, I have barely any idea who Andre is apart from the occasional photo. So, I think it matters whether you're asking about pure intra-sport fame or general popular notability. I bet there would be a huge divergence in answers.
 
With the exception of a handful of movies, The Rock's Hollywood career has been a gigantic letdown. He could have been the next Arnold or Sly but he's made almost nothing but terrible choices for his movies. I liked Faster, Snitch, Fast Five, Furious 7. I can't think of too many others that I actually liked. So I think it's safe to say the rest are dogshit.


Btw, I think Rock is the definitive #3 star of all time in wrestling. I'd probably put Andre at 4.
When your best movie is F&F5, it tells A LOT about your acting career, lol.
 
Surprised to see this so close. I know Andre was a massive draw especially in the territory days, but ask large portion of that was before he was widely visible on TV. When I was a kid I loved Andre, one of my favourites.

Having said that, the Rock was a game changer. Its rock all day, everyday.
 
The rock is still famous as a wrestler, right now, today, in millions of homes across the world.

He is known in China and India, where most of the people in the world live. Andre is maybe a more "legendary figure" in wrestling, but in terms of who the bigger star is... The Rock is bigger than anyone else.
 
The Rock literally had a run from 1997-circa 2003 before leaving to go to Hollywood. Six years and he was the second biggest star during that run behind Austin.

Andre was an INTERNATIONAL and territorial draw for almost 20 years. He was a literal attraction.

I think the Attitude Era boom makes people really embellish Rock's career. He was great and amazing and I was a huge fan. He only did it at the highest level though for half a decade and people lump his Hollywood appeal with his actual wrestling career. Rock COULD have been the GOAT if he had done it for more time.
 
The rock is still famous as a wrestler, right now, today, in millions of homes across the world.

He is known in China and India, where most of the people in the world live. Andre is maybe a more "legendary figure" in wrestling, but in terms of who the bigger star is... The Rock is bigger than anyone else.
Rock's appeal right now though is largely due to the fact he left. He is doing the same stuff and it feels fresh because he wasn't around to go stale. He largely never got that major, career shortening or ending injury. It was and is a treat when Rock comes back from Hollywood. I will even say now though that it is wearing. Him coming back to wrestle Reigns for the title was crapped on because Cody was what the crowd wanted. It made him go to a newer heel character, the "Final Boss".
 
Rock's appeal right now though is largely due to the fact he left. He is doing the same stuff and it feels fresh because he wasn't around to go stale. He largely never got that major, career shortening or ending injury. It was and is a treat when Rock comes back from Hollywood. I will even say now though that it is wearing. Him coming back to wrestle Reigns for the title was crapped on because Cody was what the crowd wanted. It made him go to a newer heel character, the "Final Boss".

Sure, but Rock has been wrestling for 29 years in between doing movies. He has been basically the top draw or top 3 draws in wrestling for 26 years straight. He became a movie star because he was so over as a wrestler. And internationally Rock is more famous than Andre ever was. Andre was famous in Japan, maybe Europe, and the USA.

The Rock is known all over the world, on every continent. And he's still part of the show, now, today. His career hasn't ended and looks like it could go on for several more years.

When Rock dies people will look back at his career and the only comparison will be Hogan.
 
Sure, but Rock has been wrestling for 29 years in between doing movies. He has been basically the top draw or top 3 draws in wrestling for 26 years straight. He became a movie star because he was so over as a wrestler. And internationally Rock is more famous than Andre ever was. Andre was famous in Japan, maybe Europe, and the USA.

The Rock is known all over the world, on every continent. And he's still part of the show, now, today. His career hasn't ended and looks like it could go on for several more years.

When Rock dies people will look back at his career and the only comparison will be Hogan.
I don't disagree with your assessment of Rocks popularity, I disagree with your assessment of why he is this famous. He is internationally renowned because of Hollywood. Had Rock had a regular career without Hollywood, he would not be this big of a name internationally. He would be on par with SCSA with the name and face recognition but not the "brand" that comes with the Rock.
 
I don't disagree with your assessment of Rocks popularity, I disagree with your assessment of why he is this famous. He is internationally renowned because of Hollywood. Had Rock had a regular career without Hollywood, he would not be this big of a name internationally. He would be on par with SCSA with the name and face recognition but not the "brand" that comes with the Rock.

He is famous in Hollywood because he got over so well as a wrestler. Hogan would not have had the career he did without his appearance in Rocky 3. Andre is remembered so fondly today in large part because of princess bride. Rock should get extra points for going over so well in Hollywood, it shouldn't count against him.

Stone Cold only wrestled from 1989 to 2003, and he was only a top guy from 96 to 03. He made a big name for himself in a short time, but Rock has almost two decades on him.
 
He is famous in Hollywood because he got over so well as a wrestler. Hogan would not have had the career he did without his appearance in Rocky 3. Andre is remembered so fondly today in large part because of princess bride. Rock should get extra points for going over so well in Hollywood, it shouldn't count against him.

Stone Cold only wrestled from 1989 to 2003, and he was only a top guy from 96 to 03. He made a big name for himself in a short time, but Rock has almost two decades on him.
There is some validity to Rock getting extra points for getting over big in Hollywood. His name from wrestling did encourage it but his natural charisma is what made him the first American wrestler to become a huge Hollywood draw. Batista and Cena have followed suit now but Rock did the thing even Hogan couldnt do there.

I hear you and can see your side and how you come to that solution but just dont agree. Andre was a consistent 20 year draw where Rock is a broken one with a ton of Hollywood exposure.

I disagree about Andre and the Princess Bride too. He was massive international star before that movie.
 
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