American scolastic folkstyle wrestling = a dying sport

one would think that with all the coverage of wrestlers in MMA more kids would get involved in the sport

sorry to say that the sport seems to be dying a protracted death DESPITE MMA giving the sport a bump

I have been involved with wrestling since 1990 and coaching since the late 90ties

these are some concerning numbers guys, I was not aware of this until recently while doing some research to crush trolls

https://www.statista.com/statistics/268028/participation-in-us-high-school-wrestling/

The fact is we had a micro bump last year but since 2009 folkstyle wrestling has PLUMMETED from
272,890
to
245,564

THATS 27, 326 FEWER WRESTLERS THAN IN 2009!!!!

DESPITE an increase in overall population numbers!!!

USA population
Jul 1, 2009 306.77 million
May 1, 2019 328.81 million

22.04 Million more people SINCE 2009 and wrestling is DOWN 27 THOUSAND ATHLETES SINCE 2009!!!

Its a TERRIBLE notion to think that one day wrestling will no longer be in our american school systems!!!

Do better next time, participation in many high school sports is down over the last decade and the youth population is lower dumbass, lol at using total population when talking about a 4 year age window. You truly are a fat dumbass redneck trailer trash.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ends-in-high-school-sports-participation/amp/
 
Do better next time, participation in many high school sports is down over the last decade and the youth population is lower dumbass, lol at using total population when talking about a 4 year age window. You truly are a fat dumbass redneck trailer trash.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ends-in-high-school-sports-participation/amp/

With the MMA bump its WAY WAY down buddy from when i was breaking records as a folkstyle coach (because i taught them freestyle)

New uniforms cant save it

USA cant keep getting BEAT BY RUSSIA in the commercial olympics

It all rolls down

# never lived in a trailer
# called me fat...meangirl?

Notice you PUNKED off the other thread after askern got beat

# pucker ( * ) hurt

# folkstyle heros broc+asken+weidman
 
Jordan Burroughs has been one of the best freestyle wrestlers in the entire world.. including on the edge with push outs since 2011.. he’s actually been one of the best at securing and avoiding pushing push outs. His close loss to a very good opponent at his age doesn’t make your point. It makes you look stupid or.. out of the loop.

Jordan's one of the best freestyle wrestlers in the world

If the USA used freestyle as their scolastic wrestling style Jordan would be the BEST FREESTYLE WRESTLER in the world and Budweiser Coke and McDonald's would have him selling all their products and the sport would be safe and growing in America

Instead our very best wrestler got beat the same way twice in a row by a freestyle specialty rule/technique and that is crushing support for my threads

# C_R_U_S_H_I_N_G!!!!

No wonder folkstyle wrestling is dying in the United States despite the MMA bump

Are very best folks style trained athletes keep getting beat by freestyle specialist in freestyle wrestling by freestyle unique scoring tactics year after year
 
With the MMA bump its WAY WAY down buddy from when i was breaking records as a folkstyle coach (because i taught them freestyle)

New uniforms cant save it

USA cant keep getting BEAT BY RUSSIA in the commercial olympics

It all rolls down

# never lived in a trailer
# called me fat...meangirl?

Notice you PUNKED off the other thread after askern got beat

# pucker ( * ) hurt

# folkstyle heros broc+asken+weidman

You would score more than 9 points if you actually could coach lol
 
Jordan's one of the best freestyle wrestlers in the world

If the USA used freestyle as their scolastic wrestling style Jordan would be the BEST FREESTYLE WRESTLER in the world and Budweiser Coke and McDonald's would have him selling all their products and the sport would be safe and growing in America

Instead our very best wrestler got beat the same way twice in a row by a freestyle specialty rule/technique and that is crushing support for my threads

# C_R_U_S_H_I_N_G!!!!

No wonder folkstyle wrestling is dying in the United States despite the MMA bump

Are very best folks style trained athletes keep getting beat by freestyle specialist in freestyle wrestling by freestyle unique scoring tactics year after year
Again. You’re ignoring the course of the match and his actual career. It’s ok. Being uneducated and selective with evidence is your strength
 
You would score more than 9 points if you actually could coach lol

I took a last place team and put them in the middle of the pack in districts and broke all the points records in the state tournament within 3 years of taking over as head wrestling coach

Thats called sucess

You watch too much TV buddy,
(Thinks Super coach makes wimp heavyweight champion overnight)

You have a perverted mr. Miyagi fantasy view of martial arts and Combat Sports because your mom paid for college and you've never been in a real fight in your life...

# rocky movies R fake buddy
# privilaged
# mom paid for class
# mr miagy

How come you dont want to talk about Ben askren and still want to interview me?

# worried about my coaching
# meangirl called me fat


(End of 8mile rap battle)

"Here...tell these people something they dont know about me"

# cranbrook
 
Holy shit, dude, how many of these anti-folkstyle threads have you made?

Nobody cares and the few who might disagree with you
 
Again. You’re ignoring the course of the match and his actual career. It’s ok. Being uneducated and selective with evidence is your strength

the best American wrestler got beat by a freestyle athlete using a freestyle move twice in a row

Too bad jordan is a folkstyle convert

Folkstyle dilutes freestyle success

# u get- F
 
With the MMA bump its WAY WAY down buddy from when i was breaking records as a folkstyle coach (because i taught them freestyle)

New uniforms cant save it

USA cant keep getting BEAT BY RUSSIA in the commercial olympics

It all rolls down

# never lived in a trailer
# called me fat...meangirl?

Notice you PUNKED off the other thread after askern got beat

# pucker ( * ) hurt

# folkstyle heros broc+asken+weidman
You realize that by the definition of “breaking records” you’re using.. both as an assistant coach and a head coach I’ve done the same if not better than you.

And in both positions I had much more than 65ish schools to compete against..

Says that the US needs to do ABC to score at highest level and get “dem dere sponsorships” then ignores data from highest level and completely changes argument to helping grassroots instead of winning worlds and getting ”dem dere sponsorships”

Brags about being certified in 3 states as a coach. Good job paying a fee and watching a video..

Talks about records set. Then immediately bitches out of even attempting to say you tried to compete with the “good” teams..

You Couldn’t improve after year two even with that Freestyle technique.. in the weakest state for wrestling in the US. Take out Kyle Ruschel and Kentucky has less DI-AAs and senior freestyle/Greco wrestlers than Alabama.

Nah bro. You get the F.

*and given how you look at close matches I shudder to think of the dashed dreams because you couldn’t coach them how to win close matches against quality competition.
 
Holy shit, dude, how many of these anti-folkstyle threads have you made?

Nobody cares and the few who might disagree with you

95% of shedog doesn't even know what the differences is between schoolboy folkstyle and international freestyle wrestling

If wrestling is the best base for MMA how come nobody is signing up to learn wrestling for free in the school system anymore

-27k athletes since 2009 despite massive population growth
 
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I took a last place team and put them in the middle of the pack in districts and broke all the points records in the state tournament within 3 years of taking over as head wrestling coach

Thats called sucess

You watch too much TV buddy,
(Thinks Super coach makes wimp heavyweight champion overnight)

You have a perverted mr. Miyagi fantasy view of martial arts and Combat Sports because your mom paid for college and you've never been in a real fight in your life...

# rocky movies R fake buddy
# privilaged
# mom paid for class
# mr miagy

How come you dont want to talk about Ben askren and still want to interview me?

# worried about my coaching
# meangirl called me fat


(End of 8mile rap battle)

"Here...tell these people something they dont know about me"

# cranbrook
Our disagreements aside.. for actual real.. are you ok dude.. you’ve gone a little bit extreme and emotional.

#nosarcasm
 
You realize that by the definition of “breaking records” you’re using.. both as an assistant coach and a head coach I’ve done the same if not better than you.

And in both positions I had much more than 65ish schools to compete against..

Says that the US needs to do ABC to score at highest level and get “dem dere sponsorships” then ignores data from highest level and completely changes argument to helping grassroots instead of winning worlds and getting ”dem dere sponsorships”

Brags about being certified in 3 states as a coach. Good job paying a fee and watching a video..

Talks about records set. Then immediately bitches out of even attempting to say you tried to compete with the “good” teams..

You Couldn’t improve after year two even with that Freestyle technique.. in the weakest state for wrestling in the US. Take out Kyle Ruschel and Kentucky has less DI-AAs and senior freestyle/Greco wrestlers than Alabama.

Nah bro. You get the F.

*and given how you look at close matches I shudder to think of the dashed dreams because you couldn’t coach them how to win close matches against quality competition.

Our disagreements aside.. for actual real.. are you ok dude.. you’ve gone a little bit extreme and emotional.

#nosarcasm

# interrogate then accuse of bragging

Classic

the days of an Olympic sport surviving without commercial success in advertising is gone

because of the new commercialized Olympic model wrestling will not survive the new Market strategy

unless the United States becomes open as a market for sponsorship wrestling is doomed in the olympics

* hilarious a guy "educated" and freestyle steeped in tennasee depicts a guy with an international background as a rube southerner because he coached in Americans 16th largest city 5 hours from Canada

"dem der sponsers"

# Tennessee fordged freestyle
# faceplant
# bump my thread
 
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95% of shedog doesn't even know what the differences is between schoolboy folkstyle and international freestyle wrestling

If wrestling is the best base for MMA how come nobody is signing up to learn wrestling for free in the school system anymore

-27k athletes since 2009 despite massive population growth
1. That's an exaggeration. I'm sure more than 1/20 sherdoggers know what folkstyle is.

2. 10% in 10 years is not catastrophic.

3. MMA is not that popular compared to mainstream team sports. Being a good base for MMA will not have any significant impact on a martial art. Most people don't want to do MMA.

4. Which style of wrestling is also not relevant to this topic. If kids wanted to wrestle for MMA rather than because they enjoy one type of wrestling or the other, they would do whatever style is available to them.

5. Most kids who want to do MMA are shitheads who would rather go sign up at a local gym and get to punch someone and quit after they see that it's hard. They don't have the will required to do any style of wrestling.

6. None of this has anything to do with my post.

TLDR: being a good base for MMA has almost no impact on wrestling's popularity or lack thereof.
 
# interrogate then accuse of bragging

Classic

the days of an Olympic sport surviving without commercial success in advertising is gone

because of the new commercialized Olympic model wrestling will not survive the new Market strategy

unless the United States becomes open as a market for sponsorship wrestling is doomed in the olympics

* hilarious a guy "educated" and freestyle steeped in tennasee depicts a guy with an international background as a rube southerner because he coached in Americans 16th largest city 5 hours from Canada

"dem der sponsers"

# Tennessee fordged freestyle
# faceplant
# bump my thread
Did someone teach you about hashtag recently? You're still doing it wrong. You can't add spaces and it only works on social media sites.
 
# interrogate then accuse of bragging

Classic

the days of an Olympic sport surviving without commercial success in advertising is gone

because of the new commercialized Olympic model wrestling will not survive the new Market strategy

unless the United States becomes open as a market for sponsorship wrestling is doomed in the olympics

* hilarious a guy "educated" and freestyle steeped in tennasee depicts a guy with an international background as a rube southerner because he coached in Americans 16th largest city 5 hours from Canada

"dem der sponsers"

# Tennessee fordged freestyle
# faceplant
# bump my thread
Gavin. I am not from Tennessee. This is established fact. You are making yourself look stupid.

You keep saying you were in Louisville and ignoring actual data and actual results in your fervor to defend your pride.. and making yourself look like even more of a Rube. You can squawk but it doesn’t change actual results

I learned freestyle and Greco from senior level athletes including a world silver medalist.. in Ohio mostly and Indiana. Not in Tennessee.

Stop acting like a rube and you won’t be considered one. And just remember.. I’ve already.. accomplished what you have as a coach.. using your “standards” of course. Considering what you’ve said about me.. you’ve dissed on yourself.

#heres your attention because you want it so badly. #Even You’re if too stupid to look at actual wrestling results for Kentucky
 
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1. That's an exaggeration. I'm sure more than 1/20 sherdoggers know what folkstyle is.

2. 10% in 10 years is not catastrophic.

3. MMA is not that popular compared to mainstream team sports. Being a good base for MMA will not have any significant impact on a martial art. Most people don't want to do MMA.

4. Which style of wrestling is also not relevant to this topic. If kids wanted to wrestle for MMA rather than because they enjoy one type of wrestling or the other, they would do whatever style is available to them.

5. Most kids who want to do MMA are shitheads who would rather go sign up at a local gym and get to punch someone and quit after they see that it's hard. They don't have the will required to do any style of wrestling.

6. None of this has anything to do with my post.

TLDR: being a good base for MMA has almost no impact on wrestling's popularity or lack thereof.

it's no exaggeration to say that 90% of shedodgers don't know the difference between freestyle Greco Roman and folks style Schoolboy american wrestling

until I started this thread series i would have never beliived that but now I'm convinced that it could be even as high as 95%

if wrestling was such an effective an important base for MMA more of these morons would know something about it but it appears that they are actually just a troll farm and not serious combat athletes

I have developed a tiny handful of american schoolboy folkstyle disciples who follow me from thread to thread nibbling away at my ankles and trying desperately to change the subject of my threads... noticed how "Jack" (gerald prestly) doesn't want to talk about Jordan Burroughs 2x loss to freestyle step outs anymore but wants to focus on my personal coaching career lol

# Exhibit A

(That not a "social media" hashtag, homey dont play that...too busy with my MMA club, surfing, managing my rental properties and working on my farm to play with twooter)

# soiboi

the style of wrestling we do is extremely relevant to this topic because when you do 8 years of folks style and then try to convert to freestyle doing it 3 days a week with coaches that learned freestyle the same way you're freestyle is going to suck and when you take it to the world stage you're going to get your ass pounded by the Russo Islamic countries and this will Perpetually leave america in a second or worse place position and that will subsequently keep the big advertisers away from the sport thus the sport will die in the modern commercialized Olympics

Aemricans starting with folkstyle will DESTROY THE SPORT OF WRESTLING BY DILUTING OUR EFFECTIVENESS in the international levels

if we would simply score push outs allow athletes to clasp their hands and score turns our athletes would be dominant in the sport with the occasional Russian coming up to give us a hell of a fight

listen to the scenario you guys are defending by refuting my threads

folkstyle participation rates have actually gone down even though you all Folkstyle wrestling is the best base for the fastest growing sport in the United States (especially the advertising revanue)

how is that even possible????

when Brazilian jiu-jitsu was considered the best base for MMA it went from unknown to a household name overnight and to this day
(25 years later!!!!)
every strip mall in america has got a Brazilian jiu-jitsu gym making a living for its proprietor yet less people are signing up for FREE Folkstyle wrestling every year!!!

are you starting to see the big picture yet?

FOLKSTYLE IS A COMPLETE FLOP

You guys had your chance to establish a Combat Sports Dynasty and now that you're folkstyle specialist Heroes like Brock Lesnar, Chris Weidman and Ben askren are getting beat down in MMA that ship is sailing

Hey you still have stipe...he just a beat a far more accomplished wrestler

(But i thought Folkstyle wrestling was the best base for MMA?)
 
Gavin. I am not from Tennessee. This is established fact. You are making yourself look stupid.

You keep saying you were in Louisville and ignoring actual data and actual results in your fervor to defend your pride.. and making yourself look like even more of a Rube. You can squawk but it doesn’t change actual results

I learned freestyle and Greco from senior level athletes including a world silver medalist.. in Ohio mostly and Indiana. Not in Tennessee.

Stop acting like a rube and you won’t be considered one. And just remember.. I’ve already.. accomplished what you have as a coach.. using your “standards” of course. Considering what you’ve said about me.. you’ve dissed on yourself.

#heres your attention because you want it so badly. #Even You’re if too stupid to look at actual wrestling results for Kentucky

Greald...you are Tennessee educated and Tennessee tested in freestyle while i was breaking records as a coach in Americans 16th largest city that borders Indiana, Illinois and Ohio and is 5 hrs from Canada

# Tennessee fordged wrestling
# wishes i was a "southerner"

Whats with all the southern hate with u buddy

Your folkstyle hero DC learned to wrestle in LOUISIANA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!

Notice you dont want to talk about jordan Burroughs or ben Askern

Just me

# dhamer redux
 
it's no exaggeration to say that 90% of shedodgers don't know the difference between freestyle Greco Roman and folks style Schoolboy american wrestling

until I started this thread series i would have never beliived that but now I'm convinced that it could be even as high as 95%

if wrestling was such an effective an important base for MMA more of these morons would know something about it but it appears that they are actually just a troll farm and not serious combat athletes

I have developed a tiny handful of american schoolboy folkstyle disciples who follow me from thread to thread nibbling away at my ankles and trying desperately to change the subject of my threads... noticed how "Jack" (gerald prestly) doesn't want to talk about Jordan Burroughs 2x loss to freestyle step outs anymore but wants to focus on my personal coaching career lol

# Exhibit A

(That not a "social media" hashtag, homey dont play that...too busy with my MMA club, surfing, managing my rental properties and working on my farm to play with twooter)

# soiboi

the style of wrestling we do is extremely relevant to this topic because when you do 8 years of folks style and then try to convert to freestyle doing it 3 days a week with coaches that learned freestyle the same way you're freestyle is going to suck and when you take it to the world stage you're going to get your ass pounded by the Russo Islamic countries and this will Perpetually leave america in a second or worse place position and that will subsequently keep the big advertisers away from the sport thus the sport will die in the modern commercialized Olympics

Aemricans starting with folkstyle will DESTROY THE SPORT OF WRESTLING BY DILUTING OUR EFFECTIVENESS in the international levels

if we would simply score push outs allow athletes to clasp their hands and score turns our athletes would be dominant in the sport with the occasional Russian coming up to give us a hell of a fight

listen to the scenario you guys are defending by refuting my threads

folkstyle participation rates have actually gone down even though you all Folkstyle wrestling is the best base for the fastest growing sport in the United States (especially the advertising revanue)

how is that even possible????

when Brazilian jiu-jitsu was considered the best base for MMA it went from unknown to a household name overnight and to this day
(25 years later!!!!)
every strip mall in america has got a Brazilian jiu-jitsu gym making a living for its proprietor yet less people are signing up for FREE Folkstyle wrestling every year!!!

are you starting to see the big picture yet?

FOLKSTYLE IS A COMPLETE FLOP

You guys had your chance to establish a Combat Sports Dynasty and now that you're folkstyle specialist Heroes like Brock Lesnar, Chris Weidman and Ben askren are getting beat down in MMA that ship is sailing

Hey you still have stipe...he just a beat a far more accomplished wrestler

(But i thought Folkstyle wrestling was the best base for MMA?)
Folkstyle is best base for MMA

It's science
 
Greald...you are Tennessee educated and Tennessee tested in freestyle while i was breaking records as a coach in Americans 16th largest city that borders Indiana, Illinois and Ohio and is 5 hrs from Canada

# Tennessee fordged wrestling
# wishes i was a "southerner"

Whats with all the southern hate with u buddy

Your folkstyle hero DC learned to wrestle in LOUISIANA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!

Notice you dont want to talk about jordan Burroughs or ben Askern

Just me

# dhamer redux
That’s because I explained about Burroughs. You ignored the actual film and data.

You competed in the state with less than 70 schools. Take out Ruschel (who’s already from a suburb of Cincinnati). Louisville and the rest of Kentucky has no results to hold up..

Your results/records are all predicted on your results against that level of competition. Stop pretending otherwise.

I’ve set all the same school records. You’re officially as good a coach as me.

Now stop making up false things about me and accusing me me of being a serial killer. Maybe instead spend all this free time on actually getting better as a coach.
 
Notice you dont want to talk about jordan Burroughs or ben Askern
Jordan who was the best wrestler in the world for a number of years or Ben Askren who was the top example of using a folkstyle based ground game to beat up people?
 
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