Alternative Pyramid Theories

[Mcmoon]

Know of any good podcasts or books on the subject?

 

[FierceRedBelt]

I think time travelers did it just to mess with people

I once had an idea for a book where Leonardo DaVinci was actually a young time traveler who got stuck in the 1400's. And then he spends the rest of his life trying to recreate the comforts of home with varying success.

 

[Luke Rockhard]

Also, people like Graham Hancock and Christopher Dunn have something to offer in terms of expertise, even if some of their ideas aren't on point. Both are extremely experienced in their fields...Hancock has about as much actual field archeology experience as anyone alive even though he's not an academic and Dunn is a machine tool maker and I believe worked on projects for JPL.
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hancock is the man. I have a few of his books. He was also pretty good on Rogans podcast. Really enjoyed it since it wasn't all about his expertise so much, as more about the person himself.

 

[Luke Rockhard]

I once had an idea for a book where Leonardo DaVinci was actually a young time traveler who got stuck in the 1400's. And then he spends the rest of his life trying to recreate the comforts of home with varying success.

you should write that. I'd read that. Reminds me of a short story I did in college where Santa Claus used christmas to cover up his kleptomania.

 

[FierceRedBelt]

you should write that. I'd read that. Reminds me of a short story I did in college where Santa Claus used christmas to cover up his kleptomania.

You should dig that up it might make a great thread.

One day I might write up a beefed up outline just to see if I actually have a story arc there. I feel like the climax of the book would either be getting stuck or realizing that he didn't have the knowledge/tools/resources to recreate what he wanted/missed.

 

[andnowweknow]

hancock is the man. I have a few of his books. He was also pretty good on Rogans podcast. Really enjoyed it since it wasn't all about his expertise so much, as more about the person himself.

he's been on 3 or 4 times actually. His story about getting hip surgery and asking if he could watch while they did it is awesome.

 

[Luke Rockhard]

he's been on 3 or 4 times actually. His story about getting hip surgery and asking if he could watch while they did it is awesome.

i've only heard the one that starts out with them talking about his recent experience in a isolation chamber. I'll have to look up the others. Do you have the episode numbers by any chance?

One day I might write up a beefed up outline just to see if I actually have a story arc there. I feel like the climax of the book would either be getting stuck or realizing that he didn't have the knowledge/tools/resources to recreate what he wanted/missed.

You should do in the style of science fiction. That way you can add in non factual plot points to Da Vinci to juice up the story. Seriously, it's a good idea.

 

[andnowweknow]

i've only heard the one that starts out with them talking about his recent experience in a isolation chamber. I'll have to look up the others. Do you have the episode numbers by any chance?



You should do in the style of science fiction. That way you can add in non factual plot points to Da Vinci to juice up the story. Seriously, it's a good idea.

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all are worth the listen.

 

[FierceRedBelt]

i've only heard the one that starts out with them talking about his recent experience in a isolation chamber. I'll have to look up the others. Do you have the episode numbers by any chance?



You should do in the style of science fiction. That way you can add in non factual plot points to Da Vinci to juice up the story. Seriously, it's a good idea.

Thanks I appreciate that; although google tells me I'm definitely not the first or hundredth person with the idea. I think I'll spend a few minutes a day writing up an outline might just be a great mental exercise for me.

 

[Agent Mulder's Hair]

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- mulder

 

[Gregolian]

Eddie Bravo's woke ass built them.

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

The Pyramids are landing pads for alien spaceships.

Daniel Jackson

 

[DoomPatrol]

Architecturally, a pyramid is one of the simplest structures to build that's very stable. So it's logical that they would use that shape to build the pyramids.

I'm sure Egypt had slaves at the time of the pyramids being built. It wasn't uncommon for the region. I think they built them because it was a bold project and that's what the Emperors wanted for whatever religious/power related reasons. People in power back then seemed to have a god complex.

So I think it's most likely that they paid builders and probably used some slave labor for the shitty jobs to undertake the project. I'm sure they had an incredible amount of time and human resources to gather the material from the surrounding areas. I'm sure it was incredibly hard work and dangerous at times, but most probably got compensated fairly well for their peers. They absolutely used some brilliant engineering techniques to accomplish this monumental task, but they were absolutely capable. The proof is standing right there that they were capable.

It's interesting to know that they used to be really white instead of the color they are today. Apparently they used to be really shimmery looking in the sun. It's crazy how the city looks like a shanty town next to them today.

 

[DoomPatrol]

Even with the water thing wasn't the quarry a long ways away? Wouldn't it take an unbelievable amount of water to help cope with friction to drag a single stone across the desert? 2.3 million blocks and all they needed was wet sand, not buying it. I'm an engineer by the way although I can't say that I am an expert on wood digging into sand physics I just think it's unlikely to move all those blocks in any reasonable time frame just by wetting the sand.

Also you make a good point in that ok sure assume that works for pulling the blocks, now tell me how they positioned them so precisely. I doubt we could do much better with 2015 surveying technology let alone whatever the hell these folks had. What did they reference to even think of setting up this geometry and positioning? It would honestly be an incredible feat for todays technology.

The level of accuracy is just astonishing. I mean imagine dragging 2.3 million blocks across the desert and for EACH one of them you not only drag it around but some dick head if whipping you telling you to pull it an extra millimetre this way...no that way...little more...ok too much back the other way...

On the topic of restoration, fuck that. Preservation? Sure do what you can to keep it in tact as long as you can but no way do you dare 'restore' it.

They were brilliant astronomers capable of making some pretty precise calculations. There's no reason they couldn't use the materials at hand to ensure precise directions at all times. It would be tedious, but using straight lines in reference to fixed points, they could do some tricky math to get where they wanted.

Don't underestimate their intelligence.

 

[J.M.M]

It is an interesting subject. I think whoever built them obviously had greater technology than they are given credit for. Technology that was lost somewhere over the years. Ancient Technology (cannot remember the name of the show) talked about the possibility of giant saws run by wheels spinning from waterfalls and a bunch of other unproven possibilities. Anyone saying it is simple engineering is out of their mind. Also, andnowweknow owned the shit out of Bones itt

 

[usmctanker242]

I don't think that idea is totally crazy but if it is true it's only partially true. It would make the construction easier, but it created a whole new set of issues...namely how did they get composite limestone, de-fragment it and than become expert cement masons in a time when nothing like that was supposed to be known?

The real issue is how the hell do you melt limestone? Limestone degrades and decomposes to calcium (Ca) and carbonate (CO3)... you're not melting limestone and then pouring it like you would concrete. Not a chance in hell, at all, this is what happened.

Edit : didn't realize this thread was so old... whoops!

 

[andnowweknow]

The real issue is how the hell do you melt limestone? Limestone degrades and decomposes to calcium (Ca) and carbonate (CO3)... you're not melting limestone and then pouring it like you would concrete. Not a chance in hell, at all, this is what happened.

Edit : didn't realize this thread was so old... whoops!

got a problem with old threads brah?

 

[no fat chicks]

I liked the water theory where they use tunnels of water to float the blocks

 

[BearGrounds]

I find huge hotels with all the wiring. Plumbing, ac units, electricity, and building materials more impressive then the pyramids.

I'm not impressed by stones built in triangle shapes that's why.

I realize this is an old post, but would like to address it anyway. Perhaps you've changed your view or simply don't care to discuss this anymore - in which case, apologies for using your post to insert my point and feel free to ignore this.

But that you had to compare a building built with modern day technology and engineering know-how to the great pyramid, just to attempt to detract from its marvelousness, says something about its marvelousness. We stand on the shoulders of giants, after all. Those that built the pyramids being some of those whose shoulders we stand upon. Not to mention those buildings you speak of would likely crumble under the force of an earthquake the pyramid would, seemingly by design, endure.

That aside, I toured The New Yorker with their head engineer. Slept in one of Tesla's rooms for the weekend. No doubt a very impressive building with some awesome history. Saw old generators that still run to this day, and the old train station platform beneath the place that has Aztec artwork on select tiles.

The Hidden Art Deco Tunnel Underneath the New Yorker Hotel

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-hidden-art-deco-tunnel-underneath-the-new-yorker-hotel

Bust downstairs from lobby:

Door to room:

View from room window:

You should see the water tank. It's enormous and hidden behind an unassuming door that looks like it's for a closet.

 

[usmctanker242]

got a problem with old threads brah?

Only when people post false things with impossible feats like you were suggesting with melting and re-vitrifying limestone. ; )