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Alt-right vs. Tea Party

It's like a political version of that tv show, "Deadliest Warrior":


What are the similarities, and differences between these two bizarre and ultra aggressive ideological factions? And most importantly, who wins in a policy debate - TO THE DEATH!

Tea party : older morons being funded by business men. See Koch brothers
These are the morons who vote for politicians who keep their wages down so while working at Walmart they can't live so they have to get food stamps to use at Walmart.

Alt right

Young white guys who are tired of the double standard of racism who however tend to be moronic or ignorant

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Tea party nuts are complete fucking morons
Alt right nuts are just a backlash againsts liberals gone to far
 
Liberal CUCKS are so bad at coming up with names. Alt Right, thats so gay. No wonder why these beta libs are easily gotten to. SJWs, Cucks, Libtards, Bernie bros all stick really good, Alt Right just sounds so desperate LOL.

The ignorance is what makes this glorious. Well done.
 
The Alt-Right had more promise simply because it distanced itself from Evangelicalism and antiquated notions pertaining to social issues (ex. that homosexuality is evil and will necessarily entail the dissolution of the nuclear family unit), but it descended into an overblown flirtation with white supremacy, and even more devastatingly, it rejected the most earnest attempts at an intellectual approach to radically reforming conservative ideology in favor of conspiracy theories rooted in the same anti-establishment fervor that floated Bernie temporarily before rational minds could no longer tolerate the incessant whining about "voter manipulation" and primaries be declared prematurely because of "uncounted ballots".

The term "alt right" was coined by Richard Spencer (a white supremacist). So that's how it was from the start.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-alt-right-for-real

You could ask some of the same questions about the alt-right, the loosely assembled far-right movement that exists largely online, and that overlaps with both the Trump campaign and with the politics of Zero Hedge. Richard Spencer, the white nationalist who came up with the term “alt-right,” described the movement in December as “an ideology around identity, European identity.” But the alt-right has often seemed more diffuse than that, more of a catch-all for the least presentable elements of the online right: white nationalists, neo-reactionaries, the male-victimhood clique of GamerGate. Late last year,BuzzFeed proclaimed that the movement, with a boost from the Trump campaign, “has hit it big,” and ever since anxious alarms have been issuing from the conservative mainstream. The Times columnist Ross Douthat worked to distinguish the reactionary tradition from the open racism of the alt-right.National Review denounced the “racism and moral rot” that characterized the movement. Commentary described the alt-right as a gathering force, and warned of a “coming conservative dark age.”

And yet, as an ideology, it can be hard to take the alt-right seriously. When Spencer named the movement, he was the managing editor of Taki’s Magazine, whose founder and namesake, Taki Theodoracopulos, is a monarchist man-about-Gstaad and the society columnist for the London Spectator. Its own propagandists often say they are joking. The right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, of Breitbart, himself a leading fellow-traveller, claimed that some “young rebels” are drawn to the alt-right not for deeply political reasons but “because it promises fun, transgression, and a challenge to social norms.” The alt-right exists mostly online, and so it is shrouded in pseudonyms.
 
Cant you be part of the Tea Party even when you are not white? I think the Tea Party is a unique American thing. Hardcore Christians dont have that kind of political influence anywhere else in the world.

While you have something like the Alt right in all white countries. In Europe we also a have the opposite of it young left wing groups that you could argue are more dangerous at the moment. But they are both basically the same just that one is right and the other left.
 
Cant you be part of the Tea Party even when you are not white? I think the Tea Party is a unique American thing. Hardcore Christians dont have that kind of political influence anywhere else in the world.

While you have something like the Alt right in all white countries. In Europe we also a have the opposite of it young left wing groups that yo could argue are more dangerous at the moment. But they are both basically the same just that one is right and the other left.

Extremists on both ends are a problem, but in America, left-wing extremists have been successfully marginalized, while right-wing extremists have taken control of one of the major political parties.
 
The term "alt right" was coined by Richard Spencer (a white supremacist). So that's how it was from the start.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-alt-right-for-real
Yes, I'm aware, but it was was #GG & Breitbart that popularized the "movement", since I guess we're calling it that, now, not Spencer's magazine, and for a brief while it seemed like it might be tempered, but that promise appears to have met its terminal end when Shapiro was ejected from the top position at Breitbart.

Trump can also be blamed when he refused to repudiate Duke, on that bizarre day that I was certain would end his campaign, and for steering it away from more elevated reactionary ideas on which it is based. The rejection of (at least the current application) of multiculturalism isn't inherently supremacist. An emphasis on nationalism within the country that is already the most culturally diverse in the world isn't inherently supremacist. The rejection of social justice engineering in favor of a free market that embraces the freedom of expression isn't inherently supremacist.

Unfortunately, these valid burgeoning ideas were drawn down into the same pit that 4Chan inhabited.
 
Extremists on both ends are a problem, but in America, left-wing extremists have been successfully marginalized, while right-wing extremists have taken control of one of the major political parties.
The Alt-Right doesn't control a single major political seat, to my knowledge, and #BLM isn't "marginalized".
 
I love how two weeks ago, nobody knew what 'alt-right' was or could even name 3 people who consider themselves 'alt-right'. Now that Hillary mentions it, everyone is suddenly a goddamn expert on it.
 
The Alt-Right doesn't control a single major political seat, to my knowledge, and #BLM isn't "marginalized".
To be fair, there is a spectrum within BLM. There are moderate voices within the movement that are quick to disavow the fringe actions.
I don't know if the same is true for the alt-right. They seem to be *slightly* more organized than BLM, which isn't saying much.
 
To be fair, there is a spectrum within BLM. There are moderate voices within the movement that are quick to disavow the fringe actions.
I don't know if the same is true for the alt-right. They seem to be *slightly* more organized than BLM, which isn't saying much.
That was my point with the Alt-Right, but no, the "spectrum" for #BLM isn't out to lunch, anymore, either. It's set to paper, now. It's an extremist movement with a central set of demands, set to paper, in "The Movement for Black Lives".
 
I love how two weeks ago, nobody knew what 'alt-right' was or could even name 3 people who consider themselves 'alt-right'. Now that Hillary mentions it, everyone is suddenly a goddamn expert on it.
Save this shit for Facebook. You're in the WR. We've been talking about it at least since March when Milo penned his article.
 
Save this shit for Facebook. You're in the WR. We've been talking about it at least since March when Milo penned his article.


Did I say you didn't? Or did you just jump the gun being as asshole again?
 
I think this "alt-right" suffers from the same problems as "BLM", namely the fact that it is an unorganized mess without any clear ideological set of principles or objectives, as evident by the numerous different interpretations in this thread.

The "alt-right" will ultimately go down as yet another counter-cultural movement which did not gain enough legitimacy in the mainstream to achieve anything of substance.
 
Yes, I'm aware, but it was was #GG & Breitbart that popularized the "movement", since I guess we're calling it that, now, not Spencer's magazine, and for a brief while it seemed like it might be tempered, but that promise appears to have met its terminal end when Shapiro was ejected from the top position at Breitbart.

Breitbart and GG are similar to Spencer's magazine, though, no? I mean, I get that it includes Moldbug types (who are also racists, but a diffferent kind) and MRAs in addition to just white supremacists, but the point is that that was a major part of it from the very start.

The Alt-Right doesn't control a single major political seat, to my knowledge, and #BLM isn't "marginalized".

Their candidate is representing the GOP, and marginal elements of BLM are marginalized. I hardly think that the idea that biased policing is bad is some kind of extremist position.
 
The alt-right specifically advocates in the best interest of ethnic European peoples.

To my knowledge the Tea-Party has no official or "semi-official" racial component.

I'd say that's the largest difference.
 
That was my point with the Alt-Right, but no, the "spectrum" for #BLM isn't out to lunch, anymore, either. It's set to paper, now. It's an extremist movement with a central set of demands, set to paper, in "The Movement for Black Lives".

There was another set of "demands":

http://www.joincampaignzero.org/

Very reasonable, and with far more legitimacy in the sense of representing the movement.
 
Breitbart and GG are similar to Spencer's magazine, though, no? I mean, I get that it includes Moldbug types (who are also racists, but a diffferent kind) and MRAs in addition to just white supremacists, but the point is that that was a major part of it from the very start.
I don't know. I never read his magazine. #GG was infested with the cockroaches of the internet, but most of its principal voices proved to be far, far more rational and decent than the axis of SJW's they opposed.
Their candidate is representing the GOP, and marginal elements of BLM are marginalized. I hardly think that the idea that biased policing is bad is some kind of extremist position.
Trump didn't win a majority of votes even within his own party, has seen Republican support crash during the general election portion of the campaign, and is headed to the first blowout loss since Dukakis, and Hillary Clinton continues to pander to #BLM on the highest stages including the Democratic National Convention.

Trump is marginalized. #BLM is not. If anything, your argument works better in the other direction.
 
The alt-right is a younger, more tech-savvy, more snarky Tea Party.

They retain the same vitriol and bigotry though. I guess the biggest difference is that they have slightly less homophobia since that Milo dude is one of their heroes.


Extremists on both ends are a problem, but in America, left-wing extremists have been successfully marginalized, while right-wing extremists have taken control of one of the major political parties.

More like, left-wing extremists (Maoists) haven't existed in the US as a political entity for 40 years.

Completely spot-on on the right-wing part though.
 
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