Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Tachy, Feb 23, 2019.
you don't actually believe yourself do you kid?
Fedor or Jones can't decide so I'll pick both.
It is hands down BJ Penn. No one even comes close.
GSP is the GOAT, I would buy a GSP PPV and I bet most people here would as well.
What does your fandom have to do with him being the goat?
Obviously BJ Penn is the greatest fighter in the history of the human race. It can easily be assumed that whomever the greatest Mixed Martial Arts is, would be able to defeat anyone from the past and no one even comes close to the accomplishments of BJ "Baby J" Penn
For far too long a propoganda campaign has been going on against Baby J and disinformation claiming that he went 16-14-02 has been being parroted when the truth is that he never legitimately lost a fight in his entire career.
The GOAT would arrive on scene going 3-0 against Joey Gilbert, Din Thomas and Caol Uno.
Next he would bring Jen's Pulver to a Draw in ONLY HIS FOURTH FIGHT! - FOR A UFC TITLE!!! - making his record 3-0-1. Unfortunately, highway robbery occurred and he officially became 3-1.
Next he would fight Paul Creighton and Matt Serra, bringing his record to 5-0-1.
After these victories, Mr. Penn would win against Caol Uno in a LW title fight. Once again however, Highway Robbery occurred and he officially drawed. His record was now 6-0-1
Upon this he decided to leave the UFC for K-1 and beat the #1 LW in the world, Takanori Gomi this becoming the #1 LW in the world. As if that was not enough he returned to the UFC and beat Hughes into dog pulp thereby becoming the Number 1 P4P in the world. He would go on to face Duane Ludwig and secure yet another victory bringing his perfect record to 10 wins and 1 draw. In 11 fights he was now the P4P number 1 fighter in the world.
Next he returned to K-1 andfaced Rodrigo Gracie at Middleweight only to win. Next, after having once more proven not only that he had balls of titanium but truly was the greatest that ever lived, he won a fight against a undefeated HW Lyoto Machida! The LW champion brought hell to the LHW Champion!!!
His record was now 11-0-1 and he returned to his natural weight and fought Renzo Gracie, beating him as well and thus joining the Gracie Killer Club.
Having ran through the K-1 roster, LW to HW itself, he decided it was time to return to the UFC where he beat GEORGES RUSH ST.-PIERRE!!!!!
His record was now 13-0-01. He was undefeated! Unfortunately he fell victim to Highway Robbery once more and was officially handed a loss.
Not to worry though as he next fought Matt Hughes. While fighting him he had a broken rib that was constantly stabbing his Diaphragm and because of this, the loss that ensued does not really count. It's the equivelant of the Muhammad Ali vs. Antonio Inoki fight. It simply does not mean anything and will be marked as a NC due to the circumstances (but you could count this as a win since he had the balls to fight while a rib was stabbing his Diaphragm)
Next he beat the everlasting crap out of Pulver (avenging his draw which was a win regardless since he drew against the LW World Champ after only three fights) and Sean Sherk (who only ever lost to 4 very dominant fellow UFC champions) his undefeated record was now 15-0-01-01
Moving back up to Welterweight he faced off against GSP and almost beat him (potentially by finish. Well We'll never know) but that pesky sleazeball greased himself up to avoid further embarrassment at the hands of the King of fighting. BJ lost by doctor stoppage because of this, and once again a highway robbery occurred at the NSAC and he was handed a loss instead a NC and mandated trilogy.
Returning to LW he beat Florian and sanchez.
Facing Frankie Edgar it became clear he was exiting his prime and despite this he still won the fight and yet those dreaded highway robbers would show up yet again to disgrace MMA history (karma was received when Edgar was robbed of his victory over Hendo in the rematch)
In the undeserved rematch he lost.
He still had some fight left in him though. He beat Matt Hughes and Jon Fitch, but the HW robbers stole that from us as well.
We all know what happens next. Diaz and MacDonald failed to finish a post prime Penn, Edgar would finish a retired Penn, ConMan McNuggets would refuse to fight a retired BJ Penn and Yair would finish him instead. The Highway Robbers did a victory lap and declared that Siver defeated Penn when in reality a washed up and retired Penn brought him to a draw. Ryan Hall secured a heel hook on Grandpa Penn and Clay Guida layed and prayed him to a victory.
Still impressive considering he was making a title run as a severely washed out middle aged gentleman.
Since the rematch was undeserved we're marking it as a NC and discarding everything after the Fitch Fight since beating old men doesn't counting much on a record.
BJ's final record was 20-00-01-03
He beat two Gracie's, the LW WW MW and LHW champs, the P4P number ones, a HW, Dana thought he should fight Anderson Silva, MCGREGOR AND KHABIB BOTH DODGED HIM! and MacDonald/Diaz failed to finish him when he was past his prime.
This man is the greatest fighter who ever lived and who will ever live.
You couldn’t be further away from truth even if you tried even harder
It's Jones and it's only Jones.
Jordan is the GOAT because he's 6-0 in the finals (amongst other reasons) and its the same distinction I give Jones. Barely ever in trouble (Gus fight was tough, Machida clipped him and thats all I can remember) and is unofficially undefeated which no one else
ARGUABLY fought the toughest competition out of anyone on the list with the exception of Georges
Why is Chris Weidman not on the list? He's the best ever.
Fedor, no contest, he was a small heavy weight who dominated everyone. Fedor even would beat people at their own game. While GSP is top tier he was a huge WW, and usually won via his superior size, strength and wrestling ability.
Where's the Conor option?
Shit poll, shit thread
It’s not the deciding factor but people gravitate towards greatness.
Another "join to sherdog to vote GSP and leave for ever.."
Tim Sylvia for obvious reason
That is 90% half mental....
He has beaten Arlovski twice, i don't think Fedor did it twice.
Fedor was terrified of the arlovski rematch. He probably would have broken his right hand.
You got it, GOAT Sylvia was not afraid to break every bone in his body to crush his opponent
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