All Time GOAT poll

[michhmoggan]

In the list is Khamzat missing?

 

[houjebek]

Fedor elite striker, groundfighter, the best imho.

Anderson Silva elite striker, but on the ground he was a little bit vulnerable imo. I think there was a lack of good competition and then he had some wierd losses in the end of his carreer (weidmann).
Great fighter and enjoyable fights, but at a certain point it seemed they all kinda avoided fighting him and fought a higher or lower weightclass imo. He didnt fought a row of champions or big names like Fedor imo.

GSP amazing wrestler, very smart and methodical fighter, I think the smartest fighter, also very smart about his carreer. But as fan of fighting I would have seen some more risk from him.
I always respect him for getting out of the sport at the right point. A lot of fighters just stick around way too long and its end just bad.

Never cared for Jon Jones.

just my opinion.

 

[pankrat]

Which makes a ton of sense, if you saw how much credit Anderson got when he was also in the top tier for GOAT discussions for his win over Forrest at LHW and moving up for that fight.

Many people had that move up and fight by Anderson as one of the strongest parts of his GOAT resume and on the flip side, GSP having no such moves as something they held against him.

So with GSP's win over Bisping being a far better win, in every way measurable, than Andersons over Forrest, those same people would now put GSP well ahead and that makes sense.

Neither Bisping or Forrest will go down as great CHamps but Bisping was at the absolute peak of his career as one of the longest consistently ranked MW in the UFC. He was enjoying his Prime run over his biggest names and best opponents when he met GSP and lost. He truly was at his all time high.

Forrest was a former Champ just destroyed and violently KTFO one fight earlier and dealing with depression and drugs and on a clear dissent to irrelevancy and Anderson helped him on his way.




Oh and there is this guy ^^^.

Not much to do but laugh.

Bisping didnt even manage to get a tittle shot during the long Silva's reign in the division, despite being favoured by UFC, and was blind of one eye when he faced GSP

 

[old school 2]

The only legit example you used to support your case is Brock, who is obviously an exception being a freak athlete HW and WWE superstar.

The rest had a much, much, much more legit career pre-UFC than Khabib, and/or as good if not better run in UFC prior to get the tittle shot

Bullshit, all were defeated before entering the UFC . Most to scrubs. Khabib stands alone to be the only one undefeated inside and outside of the UFC. No damage taken . Absolute dominance in almost all fights winning almost all rounds. Nobody can claim the same, nobody.

 

[HyperHypo]

sadly, no Big Nog

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

Fedor because he was smaller than most of the guys he faced, because he was spectacular, well rounded, and because he beat Cro Cop and Big Nog, two of the most feared HW, in their own game.

 

[HHJ]

Take this thread down

 

[HHJ]

What? Why?

If they do we will get a new 'Who is the GOAT, vote' thread continually and especially after any big fight where any GOAT contender fights and wins or loses.

We all know how recency bias works and how after a big win or loss that person will likely win the immediate vote and so the best way to normalize that out is with a thread like that normalizes that result over ALL TIME.

An greatest or all time comparison should consider the entire time a fighter fought and avoid recency bias as much as possible. This thread does that.

There is no GOAT!!!! there never was. There never will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HHJ]

lol.

of course there is a GOAT in every maturing sport.

GOAT is just a made up measure to aggregate various opinions to see who the most people would consider the best across all time.

As long as you realize that is all it is, that it simply is a way to aggregate all opinions based on what ever criteria each individual weights the most, to determine who the masses think and the best resume and career, than GOAT discussions are fine and make a ton of sense.

Some people get to anal about GOAT discussion and focus on what they are not thinking they need to be objective measures or they have no worth. That is not the case. They are subjective measures that DO have worth.

 

[Thehammer91]

Got to be fedor

 

[balkanbomber85]

lol.

of course there is a GOAT in every maturing sport.

GOAT is just a made up measure to aggregate various opinions to see who the most people would consider the best across all time.

As long as you realize that is all it is, that it simply is a way to aggregate all opinions based on what ever criteria each individual weights the most, to determine who the masses think and the best resume and career, than GOAT discussions are fine and make a ton of sense.

Some people get to anal about GOAT discussion and focus on what they are not thinking they need to be objective measures or they have no worth. That is not the case. They are subjective measures that DO have worth.

dont argue with this troll, he is just sore because his favorite bradda fighter couldnt make it into the GOAT Top10!

 

[MMAisGod]

Anyone 30+ - Fedor

Youngins - Other people

 

[brawlnsprawl]

Jones or Silva?

With all this Usman and Adesanya GOAT talk let’s remember who’s really at the top.

Silva is my pick. Nobody has had a better UFC championship run.

 

[Natural Order]

Penn

 

[Jose Beehive]

Michel Pereira

 

[HHJ]

With all this Usman and Adesanya GOAT talk

Its all nonsense,all GOAT talk is.

 

[Natural Order]

Its all nonsense,all GOAT talk is.

This. It's embarrassing how it came from MMA circles and has been adopted into mainstream sport lingo. I hear GOAT all the time now. It's fucking cringe.

 

[Choco]

This. It's embarrassing how it came from MMA circles and has been adopted into mainstream sport lingo. I hear GOAT all the time now. It's fucking cringe.

The expression is like 100 years old, dude.

 

[Natural Order]

The expression is like 100 years old, dude.

Well no, Ali kind of invented it in terms of a relation to fighting.

But that wasn't my point, I should have been clearer. It came into the mainstream recently because MMA circles were parroting the term everywhere. You would never hear the term or word in other professional sports talk. It wasn't until the Shannon Sharpes and Stephen A Smiths started taking it back over and you all of a sudden started hearing it everywhere.

The word GOAT was certainly never used as a spoken acronym until cringe MMA people got ahold of it.

 

[HHJ]

Well no, Ali kind of invented it in terms of a relation to fighting.

But that wasn't my point, I should have been clearer. It came into the mainstream recently because MMA circles were parroting the term everywhere. You would never hear the term or word in other professional sports talk. It wasn't until the Shannon Sharpes and Stephen A Smiths started taking it back over and you all of a sudden started hearing it everywhere.

The word GOAT was certainly never used as a spoken acronym until cringe MMA people got ahold of it.

I dont know,I think we used it before that...the actual nature of the discussion though has gotten completley out of control. People really cant wait to take it from whoever they think has it,and give it to someone else...and the people who disagree with that spend way too much energy defending their original pick. Its a 30 yr old sport. Calm down it aint that serious.