Alex Pereira has the same amount of title defenses (3) as Khabib, Islam and Cormier

Khabib won the title off a part time real estate agent and all of his 3 defenses were against strikers, despite being lauded as the greatest MMA grappler of all time.
Khabib beat RDA on his road to the title, who is an incredible grappler, and is probably his best win.
 
he's higher in the all time goat rankings than all 3
DC fought in tougher divisions and defended both belts (not at the same time) while Poatan didn't defend the MW belt.

Where would you put Poatan in the all time list?
 
DC fought in tougher divisions and defended both belts (not at the same time) while Poatan didn't defend the MW belt.

Where would you put Poatan in the all time list?
Somewhere around 15-20

Recall that poatan won the title from a generational talent and consensus number 2 all time MW, DC's titles were vacant titles. DC only has a HW title fight because he ducked stipe and said he didn't deserve a rematch and he's entitled. Ran away to fight Derrick Lewis only to get his ass beat by stipe twice.

He was never at any point in his career the best HW or lhw.
 
Alex's last eight fights:
  • eight Top 10 opponents
  • seven current, recent, or future UFC champs
  • 7-1 against said opponents, and the one loss only brought him even with that opponent in MMA
  • two divisional titles
  • three title defenses
  • fastest fighter in UFC history to reach that number of defenses (prev. Ronda Rousey)
It's one of the sickest runs in MMA history, and all the more impressive because the guy only started training seriously in MMA about four years ago.
 
Somewhere around 15-20

Recall that poatan won the title from a generational talent and consensus number 2 all time MW, DC's titles were vacant titles. DC only has a HW title fight because he ducked stipe and said he didn't deserve a rematch and he's entitled. Ran away to fight Derrick Lewis only to get his ass beat by stipe twice.

He was never at any point in his career the best HW or lhw.
Cormier beat the HW champ to win the title. The belt wasn't vacant, he knocked Stipe out.

Jon Jones is arguably the goat fighter, so I'm not sure if citing that Jones was able to beat him at LHW as much of an insult.

DC only lost to basically the goat fighter and goat UFC hw. That's pretty good...
 
Not remotely comparable and I like Alex.

He never had to win 15 fights fights a title shot, he's in a weak division, and the UFC is giving him #8 contenders as his title defences.


Khabib's title defences were finishes against Conor, Dustin and Gaethje who is a D1 wrestler and was supposed to stuff Khabib's td's.

All of them were p4p top 10 when he beat them. Not remotely comparable to Rountee, Hill and Jiri.

Lol, Justin is a D1 wrestler who never actually uses his wrestling.
 
Let that sink in a little.

Let's be real, there is levels to this GOAT game and none of the 3 mentioned are in the discussion. We had true champions that defended their belts against all comers for years.


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Are you honest to shit Schizophreniac?

One thread you’re sucking his dick. The next you’re crucifying him.

Get a fucking grip, alright.

The mods finally booted one of the worst trolls of all time. And his account was even older than yours.

It’s coming.
 
Lol, Justin is a D1 wrestler who never actually uses his wrestling.
Yep, people believe that skills are forever, Justin only uses his wrestling in practice and is mostly TDD, he has probably being striking for longer than he has been wrestling at this point.

Not even when Max was dog walking him did it crossed his mind to shoot a TD.
 
Cormier beat the HW champ to win the title. The belt wasn't vacant, he knocked Stipe out.

Jon Jones is arguably the goat fighter, so I'm not sure if citing that Jones was able to beat him at LHW as much of an insult.

DC only lost to basically the goat fighter and goat UFC hw. That's pretty good...
Alex's only loss is to a fighter who he beat.

I'm not trying too hard to detract from Sitpe, But the He has defenses in 2 weigh classes, needs context applied. He only got that HW title defense by actively avoiding stipe.
 
Somewhere around 15-20

Recall that poatan won the title from a generational talent and consensus number 2 all time MW, DC's titles were vacant titles. DC only has a HW title fight because he ducked stipe and said he didn't deserve a rematch and he's entitled. Ran away to fight Derrick Lewis only to get his ass beat by stipe twice.

He was never at any point in his career the best HW or lhw.
Are you taking DCs complete MMA career or just UFC career?

DC was past his prime and still won two belts.

The fact that Jon Jones, the GOAT, and Stipe, the HW GOAT, were his only losses past his prime shows how elite he was.

DC didn't win a vacant HW title.

DC has more wins, against better competition, against more varied styles, and as an undersized fighter.

DC is a better and more complete fighter than Poatan IMO. As much as I like Alex, if he fought during that era, I struggle seeing him get into the Top 10 let alone a TS.

If he fought during Jon and DCs era he doesn't touch a belt. If even past prime DC was fighting in the current LHW division, he feasts on everyone and racks up multi defenses.

Of course, Poatan can pass him up, he still has the, but as of now, I don't think he's better or greater than DC.
 
Are you honest to shit Schizophreniac?

One thread you’re sucking his dick. The next you’re crucifying him.

Get a fucking grip, alright.

The mods finally booted one of the worst trolls of all time. And his account was even older than yours.

It’s coming.
I've never seen him suck him off or anything, he's using this as a means to detract from him btw
 
Are you taking DCs complete MMA career or just UFC career?

DC was past his prime and still won two belts.

The fact that Jon Jones, the GOAT, and Stipe, the HW GOAT, were his only losses past his prime shows how elite he was.

DC didn't win a vacant HW title.

DC has more wins, against better competition, against more varied styles, and as an undersized fighter.

DC is a better and more complete fighter than Poatan IMO. As much as I like Alex, if he fought during that era, I struggle seeing him get into the Top 10 let alone a TS.

If he fought during Jon and DCs era he doesn't touch a belt. If even past prime DC was fighting in the current LHW division, he feasts on everyone and racks up multi defenses.

Of course, Poatan can pass him up, he still has the, but as of now, I don't think he's better or greater than DC.
Alex's 2 titles weigh more IMO. Alexs second title was vacant yes, but it was won from a lineal champion who did not lose the title in a fight, he then beat ANOTHER lineal champ who also did not lose that title in a fight. then the belt from izzy is from the number 2 all time MW. That's just my opinion on how i weigh those wins.

I do not consider the ozdemir and Lewis super legit title defenses or anything like that. Poatan is the best LHW in the UFC today. he has the most top wins of any current LHW. DC was never able to say that at any point in time he was the best LHW on the planet. or the Best HW on the planet.

and yeah I'm mostly talking about their UFC careers.
 
I've never seen him suck him off or anything, he's using this as a means to detract from him btw
He’s too dumb to figure that out on his own. Let the old man be, he obviously has anger issues.

Mods will probably end up banning him for constantly snapping at everyone here.
 
Alex's 2 titles weigh more IMO. Alexs second title was vacant yes, but it was won from a lineal champion who did not lose the title in a fight, he then beat ANOTHER lineal champ who also did not lose that title in a fight. then the belt from izzy is from the number 2 all time MW. That's just my opinion on how i weigh those wins.
You are ignoring why there is so much turnover of the belt. This is a far weaker 205 than DCs era.

Jiri, Jan, Hill, and Poatan don't touch a belt in the 205 that Jon ruled OR the 205 that DC ruled when Jon was suspended/stripped.

We have Glover as a measuring stick. Jan lost to an old Glover. Jiri went life and death with old man Glover and had to pull a hail Mary sub to win. Hill got his belt from the same old Glover.

That gives me a good approximation of their levels. I don't rate Jiri, Hill, or Khalil as elite wins in my opinion. The division is weak and Poatan is better than them all, I agree, but he's not on the level of DC.
I do not consider the ozdemir and Lewis super legit title defenses or anything like that. Poatan is the best LHW in the UFC today. he has the most top wins of any current LHW. DC was never able to say that at any point in time he was the best LHW on the planet. or the Best HW on the planet.
That's because there was this little known fella named Jon Jones.

And why wouldn't you class DC as the best HW when he beat Stipe? How do you determine the best fighter in a division unless they prove it by winning a belt?
and yeah I'm mostly talking about their UFC careers.
Cool. But if we are talking all time MMA GOATs, you can't ignore DCs pre-UFC career.
 
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