Media Alex Pereira Fires @ DDP: "He's Just TOO SMALL"

[NextGen]

DDP is being way underestimated. At 185, I think he beats Pereira.

205 would be the way more interesting fight.

 

[DrTrouble]

I feel like that's a good thing if a guy is considered a top # for # guy and you think he's too small, slow, one dimensional, etc. It should be an easy big money fight for you.

 

[CombatSports55]

I think DDP could maybe beat weight drained Poatan at 185 with the compromised chin. At 205 I think Pereira flat lines him early. DDP striking is too sloppy and would easily be countered by a world class 2 weight kickboxing champion. Pereira is especially good at countering hooks which DDP throws a lot. He's not keeping him down with wrestling either if he couldn't even keep Sean Strickland down in the 1st fight.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

On thread title alone..

Alex is right.

Dricus isn’t going to come in there at any weight, and have an advantage at anything.

 

[TITS]

 

[fortheo]

he's right, ddp is seen as big at middleweight but he's the same height and frame as strickland who is tiny next to alex. He has more muscle but is just too short, there's no top 5 level LHW who is as short as ddp

Jan isn't much bigger than dricus and he gave Poatan his toughest fight and arguable beat him, while being 40 years old fighting at elevation.

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Jan isn't much bigger than dricus and he gave Poatan his toughest fight and arguable beat him, while being 40 years old fighting at elevation.

Jan is much bigger and stronger than ddp, izzy couldn't even try to stop his takedown or get up from under him whereas ddp could barely hold izzy down prior to rocking him

 

[NextGen]

I think DDP could maybe beat weight drained Poatan at 185 with the compromised chin. At 205 I think Pereira flat lines him early. DDP striking is too sloppy and would easily be countered by a world class 2 weight kickboxing champion. Pereira is especially good at countering hooks which DDP throws a lot. He's not keeping him down with wrestling either if he couldn't even keep Sean Strickland down in the 1st fight.

DDP is a tough, tough guy. I don't for a second think Poatan would win that easily.

Poatan is probably the favorite at 205 but no outcome would surprise me here.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

DDP is better than Alex on the ground. African witchcraft is pretty powerful too.

I give DDP the edge in grappling but Poatan the advantage in witchcraft.

 

[moreorless87]

DDP would be an undersized light heavyweight. He fought at welterweight earlier in his career - despite putting on a lot of muscle since then, he does not have the frame of your modern light heavyweight.

This fight only makes sense in a world were both guys have cleared out the immediate contenders in both divisions, and we might be there in a few fights.

Alex is aging out and due to drop in performance any day now. The size gap will be less of a factor the longer this takes to book. It would be fun an interesting to watch if it ever does happen.

You could argue I spose if both win their next fights it might make sense to do this at LHW latter this year, I suspect besides either man losing the other unknown is whether Alex might want to try HW instead, limited time remaining and thats arguebly a bigger prize but with the Jones situation who knows whats happening with the belt.

DDP maybe has a bit more of a grappling threat than most guys Alex has faced but really he's gotten by mostly via striking recently and the Alex/Jiri fights seem to suggest this might be a bad fight for him to me.

I feel like DDP's style works well against guys like Strickland and Izzy who are quite passive counter fighters and allow him to pick his shots, as long as you don't give them big counter openings there power generally isnt that great. Alex maybe isnt ultra aggressive but he forces the fight much more, DDP fighting slow against him would get eaten up my lowkicks IMHO and Alex has significantly more power, he doesnt need a big counter opening catching someone off balance to finish, generally needs much less of an opening to counter.

 

[fortheo]

Jan is much bigger and stronger than ddp, izzy couldn't even try to stop his takedown or get up from under him whereas ddp could barely hold izzy down prior to rocking him

Jan didn't get a successful takedown until round 3 after when izzy was slowing and only got a minute of control time in that round. He then got more control in later rounds when izzy was tired. Also, izzy couldn't try to stop jan's takedowns because they were beautiful timed takedowns that put izzy dirrectly on his back while izzy was planted looking to counter. Those takedowns from jan were more about technique than strength. Dricus didn't get izzy on his back and get into his guard. He just got the body lock and rag dolled him. Two very different grappling scenarios.

Jan fights at around 220 according to himself. He's got an inch in height and reach, and like 5-10lbs tops on Dricus.

Anyways, the whole "dricus is too small" thing is silly since Alex had no problem beating up Middleweights and even called two of them out recently (izzy, and then dricus after dricus beat izzy and sean)

This is just more trolling for Poatan, who is one of the biggest trolls in the sport.

 

[fortheo]

You could argue I spose if both win their next fights it might make sense to do this at LHW latter this year, I suspect besides either man losing the other unknown is whether Alex might want to try HW instead, limited time remaining and thats arguebly a bigger prize but with the Jones situation who knows whats happening with the belt.

DDP maybe has a bit more of a grappling threat than most guys Alex has faced but really he's gotten by mostly via striking recently and the Alex/Jiri fights seem to suggest this might be a bad fight for him to me.

I feel like DDP's style works well against guys like Strickland and Izzy who are quite passive counter fighters and allow him to pick his shots, as long as you don't give them big counter openings there power generally isnt that great. Alex maybe isnt ultra aggressive but he forces the fight much more, DDP fighting slow against him would get eaten up my lowkicks IMHO and Alex has significantly more power, he doesnt need a big counter opening catching someone off balance to finish, generally needs much less of an opening to counter.

Grappling was a huge part of why dricus beat brunson, till, Whittaker, strickland the first time, and Izzy. I wouldn't say he's getting by mostly via striking. The big momentum shifts in all of those fights from dricus were from his grappling.

 

[rjmbrd]

Jan didn't get a successful takedown until round 3 after when izzy was slowing and only got a minute of control time in that round. He then got more control in later rounds when izzy was tired. Also, izzy couldn't try to stop jan's takedowns because they were beautiful timed takedowns that put izzy dirrectly on his back while izzy was planted looking to counter. Those takedowns from jan were more about technique than strength. Dricus didn't get izzy on his back and get into his guard. He just got the body lock and rag dolled him. Two very different grappling scenarios.

Jan fights at around 220 according to himself. He's got an inch in height and reach, and like 5-10lbs tops on Dricus.

Anyways, the whole "dricus is too small" thing is silly since Alex had no problem beating up Middleweights and even called two of them out recently (izzy, and then dricus after dricus beat izzy and sean)

This is just more trolling for Poatan, who is one of the biggest trolls in the sport.

In your estimation, could Jan make welterweight earlier in his career? Lets say at 25-26 years of age.

 

[fortheo]

In your estimation, could Jan make welterweight earlier in his career? Lets say at 25-26 years of age.

Probably not, but I'd have to see him like 18 years ago to know. Jan has always carried a bit more fat on his frame than DDP, though. Either way, I think Jan is only like 10lbs bigger than DDP tops these days

 

[CombatSports55]

DDP is a tough, tough guy. I don't for a second think Poatan would win that easily.

Poatan is probably the favorite at 205 but no outcome would surprise me here.

Skill beats toughness if the fighters are of a similar weight. Poatan is bigger and leagues above DDP in striking ability. DDP wouldn't have the same ability to pressure with his size like he normally does at Middleweight. Someone with elite wrestling and ground game like Khamzat would have a far better chance at beating Alex.

 

[NextGen]

Skill beats toughness if the fighters are of a similar weight class. Poatan is bigger and leagues above DDP in striking ability. DDP wouldn't have the same ability to pressure with his size like he normally does at Middleweight. Someone with elite wrestling and ground game like Khamzat would have a far better chance at beating Alex.

I get all that, but we can't quantify intangibles. We can't quantify willpower.

This guy keeps proving his doubters wrong time and time again despite nothing about him making much sense.

I agree that Poatan is the favorite at 205, but I would think twice before placing a bet on him.

 

[NoSmilez]

I give DDP the edge in grappling but Poatan the advantage in witchcraft.

Witchcraft and voodoo came from Africa. DDP is like the Sean Connery character from the movie League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Africa cannot let him die. DDP probably has an albino hand in his garage.

 

[CombatSports55]

I get all that, but we can't quantify intangibles. We can't quantify willpower.

This guy keeps proving his doubters wrong time and time again despite nothing about him making much sense.

I agree that Poatan is the favorite at 205, but I would think twice before placing a bet on him.

There were tangible reasons to believe DDP could beat Izzy and Strickland based on his size and pressure.
There is zero reason to believe DDP could do anything with Alex at 205. Jan is way bigger then DDP, has a black belt in BJJ and didn't even finish Alex on the ground. In stand up DDP 100% gets chinned. It would just be a repeat of Jiri vs Alex 2. Sloppy striker vs world class striker.
I wouldn't think twice at all and would put the whole bank on it. lol

 

[NextGen]

There were tangible reasons to believe DDP could beat Izzy and Strickland based on his size and pressure.
There is zero reason to believe DDP could do anything with Alex at 205. Jan is way bigger then DDP and didn't even finish Alex on the ground. In stand up DDP 100% gets chinned. It would just a repeat of Jiri vs Alex 2. Sloppy striker vs world class striker.
I wouldn't think twice at all and would put the whole bank on it. lol

I'm not talking any matchup in specific but his entire career, really. This guy just keeps winning. And he's the champion now.

I don't think anyone could've realistically predicted this. Hell, not even his parents did per his own admission.

 

[ChangeIsComing]

If theu both win their next fights then book it @ 205.