agriculture exports, corona.

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  1. Cuauhtemoc

    Cuauhtemoc Silver Belt

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    That data is wrong or misleading
    https://commodity.com/brazil/
    Brazil's top five exports Sugarcane $10.4B Soybeans $19B Coffee $4.84B Beef $3.59B Orange juice $2.1B Other notable exports Poultry $6.13B Corn $3.51B

    Read more at: https://commodity.com/brazil/
    Just Sugarcane, Soybeans and beef and you have over 30B.
    I believe the US is number 1 and Brazil is number 2 in real food exports.

    Also, adding the netherlands as food exporters is very misleading. They sell stuff like flowers that are very expensive and count as agricultural exports.
     
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    Cuauhtemoc Silver Belt

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    Russia and Canada are also oil rich, they are the countries with less incentive to stop burning fossil fuels. Russia not only makes money selling and using oil but it will make their country greener too.
    Global warming is legit but the consequences are unknown. Hotter oceans will cause more rain to fall, for example, while evaporation will increase in some places, hence some places will become drier and others will be wetter. Brazil is not any drier right now than in the 19th century, when records start. Plant breeding has created incredibly resilient plants for tropical climates. Soybeans are originally a temperate plant, well suited to the american plains, not to Mato Grosso, or western Bahia. Embrapa already got some wheat varieties able to grow in the Cerrado region. You also have vineyards bordering the Amazon.
    The problem will be Africa because they do not have the technology and while they have, in some areas, a climate similar to Latin America it's not exactly the same. Plants can be sensitive, a seed that will grow well in Mato Grosso may not develop as well in Góias, much less in the Congo.
    There is also the economics, a large advantage of Brazil is that it's an urban country, there are few smallholders, farms are large and benefit from economies of scale. You find many 5 hectares farms in Europe, 50 hectares farms in the US and 1 hectare farms in Africa that are worked by hand and where a simple tractor isn't worth it.
     
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    That is difficult to imagine.
     
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    MVelsor Leather Belt Platinum Member

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    They would seem to know it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...rsuing-devastating-policies-new-study-reveals

    China, Russia and Canada’s current climate policies would drive the world above a catastrophic 5C of warming by the end of the century, according to a study that ranks the climate goals of different countries.

    The study, published in the journal Nature Communications, assesses the relationship between each nation’s ambition to cut emissions and the temperature rise that would result if the world followed their example.

    The aim of the paper is to inform climate negotiators as they begin a two-year process of ratcheting up climate commitments, which currently fall far short of the 1.5-to-2C goal set in France three years ago.

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  5. covenant

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    great post, informative.
     
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    MVelsor Leather Belt Platinum Member

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    A cute country boy thread, did turn out informative tho.

    Thanks for starting, @covenant. :)
     
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    The Netherlands also processes food and exports it. Most of the food is imported, processed and exported. They don't have that much agricultural to have those numbers and flowers are not that massive of a market. In Japan heinz ketchup and frozen fries are from the Netherlands.
     
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    MVelsor Leather Belt Platinum Member

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    I think that was 2016 data from World Atlas.

    You can't hate on the horticulture homies.




     
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    Cuauhtemoc Silver Belt

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    Congratulations to them, they're obviously doing a good job but see how flowers account for 10% and it's also on a money basis, not calories. They sell high value products but they're not feeding as many people as larger countries.
     
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