International Active US Air Force member self-immolates outside Israel Embassy in Washington

[TheMaster]

He died because he had mental problems, not because he was a hero. This is from his reddit: "There are no Israeli "civilians" or tourists who have no part in the oppression of Palestine".
At least, unlike other “anti-colonial” Americans, he was consistent, I mean the land he lived on was stolen from the natives after all. Good riddance.

If what you posted is true, then it still wouldn't mean he had mental problems. He had taken a stand and a viewpoint which he is entitled to. So no, he did not die because he had mental problems.

The fact that he died for this principle of taking a public stand against widespread illegal killing of civilians, which he stated before he did this, remains entirely valid regardless of how his other political views were on the broader conflict.

 

[BAM]

If what you posted is true, then it still wouldn't mean he had mental problems. He had taken a stand and a viewpoint which he is entitled to. So no, he did not die because he had mental problems.

The fact that he died for this principle of taking a public stand against widespread illegal killing of civilians, which he stated before he did this, remains entirely valid regardless of how his other political views were on the broader conflict.

he was fine with civilians being targeted, per his music festival post and other hamas posts. It was the colonising he hated, he hated all sorts of colonising, not just the Israeli occupation - American colonising, African colonising. And routinely, he supports violent uprisings against colonising, not just historically, but picking up arms and starting violent revolution today - he says this (not just reading between the lines).

if you check that account, he talks about how his dad is a Christian carpenter and a Trump supporter who hates socialism. Type his name into google and include "father", who will be confirmed as the owner of a carpentry company. It's him.

Dude resented his own family, his occupation, his race, his country, his everything. Disillusioned in every sense. There's a reason he'd rather be kindling. Lots of people screaming genocide, only one other person found it necessary to burn alive. It should tell you he wasn't in a great place and that self-immolation isn't a common thought despite people's convictions. You can be extremely committed and not burn or blow yourself up.

 

[Fossor]

If what you posted is true, then it still wouldn't mean he had mental problems. He had taken a stand and a viewpoint which he is entitled to. So no, he did not die because he had mental problems.

The fact that he died for this principle of taking a public stand against widespread illegal killing of civilians, which he stated before he did this, remains entirely valid regardless of how his other political views were on the broader conflict.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict in no way relates to him personally. Dude sat himself on fire because of his political views. If that is not a mental problem, then what is?

Histrionic personality disorder - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Dude resented his own family, his occupation, his race, his country, his everything.

How ironic that now people on Twitter said rest in power which launched a meltdown from all sorts of woke idiots how it doesn't matter what he did, rest in power is only for black people.

Talk about being a member of the religion but not of the priesthood.

 

[BAM]

How ironic that now people on Twitter said rest in power which launched a meltdown from all sorts of woke idiots how it doesn't matter what he did, rest in power is only for black people.

Talk about being a member of the religion but not of the priesthood.

I've always felt that 'rest in power' is a weird thing to project onto a dead person, especially if you believe that the person died for peaceful aspirations like a ceasefire. Ironic really.

But in his case, while he publicly presented one thing in his final act, he was all about violent overthrows of capitalism, using that revolution to disband the police state and colonising countries, including the US.

Two months ago he wrote: "Our choices are not Biden or Trump. Our choices are genocide or revolution."

Expanding on his 'no such thing is an Israeli citizen' justification for massacre - presumably he had no problem killing Americans he felt were complicit in the ongoing support of colonisation (including for acts made against Native Americans and non-violent pro-Israeli supporters).

Would explain his disdain for those 3 dead soldiers.

 

[snowbro]

Meanwhile..... DJ Khaled

 

[KnightTemplar]

he actually had his reddit found where he was pro hamas, likening them to freedom fighters, explicitly not condemning but justifying the October 7th attacks and noted that Hammas was justified attacking Israeli civilians and visiting tourists and said that the reaction to the attack on the music festival was 'pearl clutching'.

The guy also mocked the deaths of the three soldiers that died in in Jordan. This post was in a ACAB subreddit. He wore the uniform to provoke, not because he still believed in the military, he explicitly posted how the police and military needed to be disbanded/disarmed.

too much time on the anarchist subreddits and watching breadtube, it broke the guy. Can't say it was the service that broke him, he was just serving as an IT guy and living in the US.

however, putting him aside, I agree generally with your sentiment, that multiple things can be true at once, including being against Hamas and not wanting dead kids in Gaza.

And so not a single thing of value was lost that day.

 

[PhitePhan]

good riddance. All the other pro-hamas folks should do the same.

Do you consider the Israeli government who propped up Hamas to be “pro Hamas”?

 

[PhitePhan]

he was fine with civilians being targeted, per his music festival post and other hamas posts. It was the colonising he hated, he hated all sorts of colonising, not just the Israeli occupation - American colonising, African colonising. And routinely, he supports violent uprisings against colonising, not just historically, but picking up arms and starting violent revolution today - he says this (not just reading between the lines).

if you check that account, he talks about how his dad is a Christian carpenter and a Trump supporter who hates socialism. Type his name into google and include "father", who will be confirmed as the owner of a carpentry company. It's him.

Dude resented his own family, his occupation, his race, his country, his everything. Disillusioned in every sense. There's a reason he'd rather be kindling. Lots of people screaming genocide, only one other person found it necessary to burn alive. It should tell you he wasn't in a great place and that self-immolation isn't a common thought despite people's convictions. You can be extremely committed and not burn or blow yourself up.

He hated colonialism?? WTF? He MUST be crazy- it’s totally fine when powerful European governments and military forces kill, subjugate, and steal from natives… amirite?!

 

[Fox by the Sea]

The people are insufferable.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

He hated colonialism?? WTF? He MUST be crazy- it’s totally fine when powerful European governments and military forces kill, subjugate, and steal from natives… amirite?!

If you hate America so much, you can feel free to leave.

 

[Blayt7hh]

@Blayt7hh

You have the burden of proof since you made the claim but here is a refutation.

I know you are struggling so I'm going to help out. I dont think I should be doing your work for you though because its basic work you should have already done for a guy so certain about a thing...

a girl raised in a right wing bigoted household has only heard one side of the story but because of this sacrifice she reads up more and changes her position.

a boy raised by left wing progressives is taught that its a genocide and that the Jews are totally wrong. this man immolates himself sparking a genuine curiosity in the subject that leads to a more nuanced view and she comes to see both sides.

a boy in india who didn't even know about this issue AT ALL hears about this sacrifice... becomes moved by and and then educated about it and comes out with an opinion.

someone who has already looked into it is MOVED emotionally by this sacrifice and thinks "maybe I better think more about this" and the sacrifice lessens pride and arrogance due to the gravity of it. he thinks about the subject more emotionally neutral. in fact he did not even recognize that emotion was a part of his initial position until the sacrifice knocked it out of him. but now his position is changed deeply from coming in more neutral and taking the situation more seriously all sparked by this mans sacrifice..

a woman with a fixed position is moved by the sacrifice and although her position is the same she is sickened by the way people discuss it and the lack of depth, empathy or even basic human caring going on around the subject. she was part of that callousness but is deeply changed by his sacrifice changing not her position but the entire way she carries herself and speaks about the subject. she is changed deeply by this and becomes interested in the concept of sacrifice for the greater good and goes on to emulate this principle in her life and becomes a saint.

need I really go on man? because I could go on all night.....

You could go on, but this is a massive fail.

Almost every example you gave was about him drawing attention to the topic to people who hadn’t thought about it before. I said that that’s all it should reasonably be able to do in MY FIRST FUCKING POST TO YOU.

The others, literally the very first logical fallacy I pointed out to you.

JFC dude. Literally every one of those stories you typed up. How have you not learned what an appeal to emotion is yet?

The burden of proof is not on me. You clearly have not bothered to google that fallacy.

 

[BAM]

He hated colonialism?? WTF? He MUST be crazy- it’s totally fine when powerful European governments and military forces kill, subjugate, and steal from natives… amirite?!

he believed in killing civilians to end colonialism and engaging in a bloody revolution to end the police state by killing, disarming and disbanding the military and police to achieve this. And you know, no capitalism because it's bad and stuff. The usual. Oh, and he wanted this to occur in the US imminently, ie before the next US presidential election.

all sane stuff.

it all sounds like political LARPing, but then he set himself on fire so that requires a recontextualisation.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The people are insufferable.

Actually, his last words were probably,

"THIS FUCKING HURTS! SOMEONE PUT ME OUT!!"

 

[PhitePhan]

he believed in killing civilians

So does Israel.

 

[BAM]

So does Israel.

and? two things can be true at once. You're cheering on a crazed terrorist simp fuckwit and also bombing little kids is bad.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I've always felt that 'rest in power' is a weird thing to project onto a dead person, especially if you believe that the person died for peaceful aspirations like a ceasefire. Ironic really.

most of the time when it's used is for people that died pretty powerless. just like "peace' is a wish for the potential future, "power" is the same. of course when you use it on ANYBODY, it cheapens any effect. but from this to making it a race thing, it's so fucking dumb.

 

[BAM]

most of the time when it's used is for people that died pretty powerless. just like "peace' is a wish for the potential future, "power" is the same. of course when you use it on ANYBODY, it cheapens any effect. but from this to making it a race thing, it's so fucking dumb.

oddly enough, that white suicide guy also really hated whitey, so he'd agree with the karen on this one.

 

[terrapin]

You could go on, but this is a massive fail.

Almost every example you gave was about him drawing attention to the topic to people who hadn’t thought about it before. I said that that’s all it should reasonably be able to do in MY FIRST FUCKING POST TO YOU.

The others, literally the very first logical fallacy I pointed out to you.

JFC dude. Literally every one of those stories you typed up. How have you not learned what an appeal to emotion is yet?

The burden of proof is not on me. You clearly have not bothered to google that fallacy.

There is not a single logical fallacy in any of those and the truth is you never thought of any of this because you hadn't thought past your position after looking up what logical fallacy meant.

 

[BIKES!]

No mentally fit person lights themselves on fire

No mentally fit person sides with the terrorists that run and support Palestine. Nobody is surprised