Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by GOAHEADSWING, Mar 20, 2008.
Dude what happened with your no dairy
I'm still doing it, but I can't track my progress on solely that because I made a lot of other changes at the same time. So positive results have shown, but I'm also doing it with IF, less red meat, more fish, no wheat products, more training, and a bunch of other changes I've made. I do have it on my cheat days in the form of mainly ice cream and chocolate, but limit it only to cheat days. My post wo meal is actually those dairy free organic food bars which have been working great. Sorry for leaving you hanging(me being lazy), but you also didn't post your no dairy results.
I havent been able to do it
Too many staples go missing. I have to have a whey protein shake for breakfast; I have no time for real food. I usually grab a muscle milk ready made and a banana.
Then you should really try IF I'm on my fifth official day and I must say I feel pretty damn good without having to worry about eating everytime I blink. I mix it up different ways but I always get my calories in so my training isn't negatively affected and I'm not starving when I wake up. I like the 8 hour window of eating better then any other type of fasting. This works very well if you workout later in the day besides that I couldn't see it working as well. The good thing about this is unlike most diets you don't have to change how much or what you eat, just when you eat.
hmm...sounds intriguing. I might actually be able to try this, I'll check it out thanks.
I am thinking about trying this. I work out in the mornings so I will probably have to change that to night, but other then that it sounds like a pretty good thing.
So when you are fasting, though, does that mean nothing at all?
Can you drink water? Green tea? Take fish oil?
Those articles dont really address it but Im going to more research. Thanks
Just water and other zero calorie healthy beverages I think. So green tea should be OK.
I eat like this 99% of the time. It just fits my schedule better and I enjoy the cognitive benefits. My energy levels are more consistent throughout the day as well. the only thing I consume throughout the day is coffee or water.
I usually keep this to myself because most people actually attack me for eating this way, telling me I'm doing so much harm to my body etc. etc.
I think one of the major fallacies associated with IF is that people who eat this way use it as an excuse to have a 'free for all' gorge fest at night which simply isn't true. A paleo diet combined with IF is teh sex.
Could you give a more specific run down of how you eat please?
I want to do because like you said it just makes more sense from a time and scheduling standpoint. Also, I dont think we need to eat as much as some people think.
Do you just not eat all day until the evening? And then eat for like a 4-6 hour window? Let me know, thanks.
Pretty much. I don't eat anything all day, just some coffee and water. Some people take it to the extreme and only have water throughout the day. I have about a 4 hour window where I eat, I time my first meal for after my workout on training days.
Be prepared for some backlash though when people find out that you eat like this.
What's funny is that most if not all the criticism I've had about IF has come from people with extremely POOR eating habits. Most of the people I know who have clean diets don't say anything. We have an area manager who's very strict about his eating, when he found out that I use IF he just shrugged his shoulders and said "whatever works."
I have found if I eat heavily paleo, I do not feel hungry for 4-6 more hours, whereas if I eat smaller paleo portions, or just eat shittily (more carbs) I'm still starving every two hours.
"Heavy" I mean: 6 eggs, steak or fish, massive amounts of spinach, whole milk...i don't believe its COMPLETELY paleo, but high fat / high veggies.
I have seen more people both athletes and soccer moms, loose fat and maintain or gain strength with IF more so than any other way of eating. For most people though as Sonny said, they will find you to be a little crazy. While it is in its infancy as far as feedback etc, what has been shown is promising.
Can anyone recommend some good resources (other than whats in the OP)?
www.performancemenu.com The have a whole sub forum for it.
The Warrior Diet is a decent book if you can see through all the fluff.
hmm, intriguing, i'm about ready to consider giving it a try
Damn all of you IFers! I, like flashNsmash, am now considering giving IF + Paleo a trial run.
Curious, though... Sonny, when you first shifted to this way of life, how did your body react initially? Any issues with energy? Loss of lean mass? Loss of strength? I assume that any loss reverses itself in time, but I'd like to know what your experience was.
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