A new tolerance for Antisemitism from the Left. Over 26% of the world is Anti-Semitic

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The Palestine issue can't be fixed. Most of the world knows that. Israel has bent over backwards trying to give them a state only to have it rejected. Israel was able to make peace with Egypt, including ceding large amounts of territory they had conquered in the Sinai, so they have a history of just what you are asking from them toward Palestine. The inability to make peace comes from the Palestinian side and always has.

But even if one disagreed, the unreasonable focus on one vulnerable nation that has spent most of its existence under attack and asking them to adhere to the highest standards of behavior, while their neighbors systematically render their states judenrein is so absurd to be inexplicable by reason.

We should lobby our Congressmen/Senators to push for a realistic and safe peace deal. Anyone who values our allies and the safety and future of the Jewish people could not possibly support giving all of the West Bank to the Palestinians when it has been proven that doing that is dangerous.

Palestinians need to be transported to a new state ideally in Jordan. That is the only way the violence and constant terror that Israel faces can stop. Or at the least Palestinians can have the Jordan valley and parts of Eastern Judea and the rest of their state can be in Jordan.

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So you accept that West Bank is conquered, yet dont recognize Palestinians as full citizens of Israel.

Thats literally Apartheid, so why would a liberal support a country which has second class citizens with limited rights?

Do you seriously think Israel can be safe and free from danger if Palestinians get all of the West Bank?

U.S. Generals in the 1960's did not even think that. They realized that Israel needs to control Western Samaria

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2.- It is 100% apartheid, based on religion.
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Based on the fact that the people there are trying to kill Israel. They are enemies. Israel has a right to protect its citizenry from attacks, and a great many come from there IF they want to be let out of their state sized prison then the people of West Bank should learn to play nice, and stop lobbing rockets at innocents, suicide bombing and all the other random shit they do.
 
Based on the fact that the people there are trying to kill Israel. They are enemies. Israel has a right to protect its citizenry from attacks, and a great many come from there IF they want to be let out of their state sized prison then the people of West Bank should learn to play nice, and stop lobbing rockets at innocents, suicide bombing and all the other random shit they do.

What I encourage you to show everyone on facebook and in general are these two images.

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^^^ These two.


But this also paints a good picture.

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People who want a two state solution that looks like this are either naive, or they want the destruction/demise of Israel. Palestinians would be able to import millions of other Arabs and weapons and drugs and be able to rain down attacks and missiles from a +2500 feet elevation onto an area that is at most 9 square miles wide which holds 70% of the Israeli Jewish population!

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Based on the fact that the people there are trying to kill Israel. They are enemies. Israel has a right to protect its citizenry from attacks, and a great many come from there IF they want to be let out of their state sized prison then the people of West Bank should learn to play nice, and stop lobbing rockets at innocents, suicide bombing and all the other random shit they do.

Same could had been said of apartheid.
 
When someone dislikes you, it could just be that person being a hater. When everybody dislikes you, the problem may be yourself. Bulldozing houses and illegally settling people in occupied territories don't earn you any favors, with the exception of some retards in the Republican Party.
 
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10492/anti-semitism-tolerance

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  • "there has been hard-right anti-Semitism for decades, the bigotry of the hard-left is far more prevalent and influential on many university campuses. Those on the left, who support left-wing anti-Semites try to downplay, ignore or deny that those they support are really anti-Semites. "They are anti-Zionist" is the excuse du jour. Those on the right do essentially the same: "they are nationalists." Neither side would accept such transparent and hollow justifications if the shoe were on the other foot.

  • Linda Sarsour supports Islamic religious law, Sharia. If taken literally, this would presumably mean that she also supports punishing homosexuality by death; amputation for theft; death by stoning for "adultery" (which can include being raped); women being valued at half the worth of a man, being flogged for drinking alcohol, and above all, slavery.

  • The growing tolerance for anti-Semitism by both the extreme left and right is quickly becoming mainstream. That is why it is so dangerous and must be exposed for what it is: complicity in, and encouragement of, the oldest form of bigotry. People on both sides of the aisle must have the same zero tolerance for anti-Semitism as they do for sexism, racism and homophobia.
All over the world anti-Semites are becoming mainstreamed. It is no longer disqualifying to be outed as a Jew hater. This is especially so if the anti-Semite uses the cover of rabid hatred for the nation-state of the Jewish people. These bigots succeed in becoming accepted -- even praised -- not because of their anti-Semitism, but despite it. Increasingly, they are given a pass on their Jew-hatred because those who support them admire or share other aspects of what they represent. This implicit tolerance of anti-Semitism -- as long as it comes from someone whose other views are acceptable -- represents a dangerous new trend from both the right and left.

In the United States, although there has been hard-right anti-Semitism for decades, the bigotry of the hard-left is far more prevalent and influential on many university campuses. Those on the left who support left-wing anti-Semites try to downplay, ignore or deny that those they support are really anti-Semites. "They are anti-Zionist" is the excuse du jour. Those on the right do essentially the same: "they are nationalists." Neither side would accept such transparent and hollow justifications if the shoe were on the other foot. I believe that when analyzing and exposing these dangerous trends, a single standard of criticism must be directed at each.""




Unlike imaginary 'Muslim and black oppression' that the far left thinks is occurring, in truth and reality black people will number 4 billion by 2100 (if nothing changes) and are not held down globally. And Muslims are booming and will be an increasingly larger % of the world population by 2030, 2050 and let alone 2100. Jews meanwhile seem to be the true globally oppressed group.




TLDR Notes

*Antisemitism is now basically promoted by the far left
*The 'far left' now has a strong voice on most major University campuses and in most major 'progressive' organizations.
*Liberals are increasingly being duped to view Muslims and very larger blocks of 'non-white people' as 'oppressed' despite the fact that constitute a very large % of the world population (all non-white groups are like 90% of world population). And yet Jews are only less than 1% of the global population. Jews are 0.2% to 0.3% of the world population, that is 0.002

how is all this being measured?

anti-zionists are not necessarily anti-semites. to me, israelis and palestinians equate to two street gangs constantly seeking revenge on one another. an unusual percentage of people on both sides are bad people. that doesnt mean that im an anti-semite.
 
how is all this being measured?

anti-zionists are not necessarily anti-semites. to me, israelis and palestinians equate to two street gangs constantly seeking revenge on one another. an unusual percentage of people on both sides are bad people. that doesnt mean that im an anti-semite.

http://global100.adl.org/

https://www.adl.org/what-we-do/anti-semitism/anti-semitism-globally

Idk but the ADL is a very reputable bias free organization by and large it is respected.
 
its not apartheid. They have a right to contain a clear and present danger.

If its such a clear and present danger why are they building residential units inside such hostile nation?
 
If its such a clear and present danger why are they building residential units inside such hostile nation?

Because the land belongs to them.

In any case the residents are given machine guns and under protection so it isn't safe they just are tough and willing to face danger to live on land that is traditionally and historically theirs.

And respond to my earlier response to you.
 
If its such a clear and present danger why are they building residential units inside such hostile nation?

It is Israel's land. Period. They can do with their land what ever the heck they want to. Why are your ilk trying to push Israel into indefensible borders?
 
Because the land belongs to them.

In any case the residents are given machine guns and under protection so it isn't safe they just are tough and willing to face danger to live on land that is traditionally and historically theirs.

And respond to my earlier response to you.

If the land belongs to them, does that makes palestinians Israeli citizens?
 
It is Israel's land. Period. They can do with their land what ever the heck they want to. Why are your ilk trying to push Israel into indefensible borders?

So, its Israel land, that makes Palestinians subjects of Israel.

Thats literally apartheid friend.

You can argue whether apartheid is justified, you cant simply lie with a straight face and claim its not what it is.
 
We should lobby our Congressmen/Senators to push for a realistic and safe peace deal. Anyone who values our allies and the safety and future of the Jewish people could not possibly support giving all of the West Bank to the Palestinians when it has been proven that doing that is dangerous.

Palestinians need to be transported to a new state ideally in Jordan. That is the only way the violence and constant terror that Israel faces can stop. Or at the least Palestinians can have the Jordan valley and parts of Eastern Judea and the rest of their state can be in Jordan.

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Do you seriously think Israel can be safe and free from danger if Palestinians get all of the West Bank?

U.S. Generals in the 1960's did not even think that. They realized that Israel needs to control Western Samaria

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If you are quoting me, then dont flood the response between pictures, put them on spoiler tags.
 
If the land belongs to them, does that makes palestinians Israeli citizens?

No. Palestinians invaded the land once Israel became more prosperous and are currently unfairly occupying. Palestinians can move to a new state in the Jordan valley and in Jordan. That is what I propose.

Everyone wins except the radicals who want to destroy Israel.

In theory a small quantity of Palestinians could be permitted to stay inside Israel and become citizens IF they swore a loyalty pledge and at the slightest sign of them committing or supporting terror they be arrested and stripped of citizenship soon after.



The only people who want Palestinians to get citizenship at large are other supremacist Muslims and neo nazis who hate Jews. They realize that the Jewish state will be destroyed literally if Palestinians all gain citizenship because then they will out number Jews especially if other Palestinians are able to make a 'return'.
 
No. Palestinians invaded the land once Israel became more prosperous and are currently unfairly occupying. Palestinians can move to a new state in the Jordan valley and in Jordan. That is what I propose.

Everyone wins except the radicals who want to destroy Israel.

In theory a small quantity of Palestinians could be permitted to stay inside Israel and become citizens IF they swore a loyalty pledge and at the slightest sign of them committing or supporting terror they be arrested and stripped of citizenship soon after.



The only people who want Palestinians to get citizenship at large are other supremacist Muslims and neo nazis who hate Jews. They realize that the Jewish state will be destroyed literally if Palestinians all gain citizenship because then they will out number Jews especially if other Palestinians are able to make a 'return'.

So your solution is ethnic cleansing and anyone who thinks otherwise is an anti-semite.

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Also lol at invaders, the median age in the West Bank is 20 years old.

The vast majority, something around 95% of Palestinians were born under Israeli rule under Israeli land.

But they are not citizens, they dont get to vote on Israeli elections either.

LITERALLY APARTHEID.
 
So, its Israel land, that makes Palestinians subjects of Israel.

Thats literally apartheid friend.

You can argue whether apartheid is justified, you cant simply lie with a straight face and claim its not what it is.
It is not apartheid. Sorry but you will have to take your anti-Semitism else were. They have a right to protect themselves from their barbarian neighbors, weather your jew hating ass likes it or not.
 
If you are quoting me, then dont flood the response between pictures, put them on spoiler tags.


Do you seriously think Israel can be safe and free from danger if Palestinians get all of the West Bank?

U.S. Generals in the 1960's did not even think that. They realized that Israel needs to control Western Samaria

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So your solution is ethnic cleansing and anyone who thinks otherwise is an anti-semite.

<YeahOKJen>

Also lol at invaders, the median age in the West Bank is 20 years old.

The vast majority, something around 95% of Palestinians were born under Israeli rule under Israeli land.

But they are not citizens, they dont get to vote on Israeli elections either.

LITERALLY APARTHEID.
What good would come of them voting in Israel elections? Israel was founded to be a Jewish state, not a mixed state. Jews have no voting rights in Muslim states, so why should muslims have a vote in a jewish state.

Also, not ethnic cleansing if no one is genocided.
 
It is not apartheid. Sorry but you will have to take your anti-Semitism else were. They have a right to protect themselves from their barbarian neighbors, weather your jew hating ass likes it or not.

so you have no arguments, call me an anti-semite and then cry that anti-semite has lost all meaning.

Fucking rich, thats why Trump was elected.
 
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