Media A history of cheating in MMA (with cliffs)

Only read the cliffs and didn't watch the video, but two blatant examples not in the cliffs is 1) Lesnar blatantly juicing when he fought Hunt, 2) Li JingLiang eye gouging the fuck out of Jake Matthews
 
You missed Glove Grabbing - Tim Kennedy vs Yoel Romero - during the final sequences of the 2nd time Tim Kennedy grabbed Yoel Romero's glove preventing Yoel from lifting up his hands to defend the strikes that hurt him at the end of the round (hypocritegate)
 
World eater said:
The refs doing nothing about cheating is one of the worst aspects of this “sport”. First eyepoke, groin shot and fence grab are basically free. The second sometimes gets you a warning. At this point I expect everyone to do it.
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All my friends that I introduce to the sport who end up asking about the rules end up at the conclusion that every fighter should just kick their opponent in the balls at least once if there's no consequence.
 
Bend NvR Break said:
You missed Glove Grabbing - Tim Kennedy vs Yoel Romero - during the final sequences of the 2nd time Tim Kennedy grabbed Yoel Romero's glove preventing Yoel from lifting up his hands to defend the strikes that hurt him at the end of the round (hypocritegate)
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The crazy thing is that Yoel never 'cheated' in the first place. He took advantage of confusion among officials but did absolutely nothing against the rules. BJM explained this at the time.

Fighter A blatantly cheats to nearly KO Fighter B.

Fighter B legally takes advantage of confusion to recover more from Fighter A's cheating.

= Fighter B is a cheat.

It was a masterclass in MMA mong logic and many mongs still believe it to this day.
 
Dr Fong said:
The crazy thing is that Yoel never 'cheated' in the first place. He took advantage of confusion among officials but did absolutely nothing against the rules. BJM explained this at the time.
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I can't say that I remember exactly how that shit show went down, but my recollection of the events is that it was Romero's corner who caused the confusion.

I could be wrong, but something along the lines of them suddenly not understanding English well enough to know they were supposed to get out of the cage when repeatedly told to do so by the officials?

I guess you could call that simple gamesmanship, but I'm not exactly going to take issue with it if someone wants to call that cheating, either.
 
Fouling and cheating are not really the same thing even though they both imply breaking the rules.

Cheating infers something drastically underhanded, uncompetitive, and unsportsmanlike.

A foul is usually a small action within the moment that obviously doesn't comply with the rules of the game.

a dramatic example would be basketball. There are clear rules of what you can and cannot do, and many fouls occur. Fouling is not seen as underhanded, and people would not say they are cheating just because they foul. Fouling essentially has warnings and penalties as well in basketball.

In MMA, smaller actions can still be pretty significant, and a match is very short. There probably should be more penalties in MMA, but someone grabbing the cage isn't really the same thing as doing steroids or greasing up.
 
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Don't forget about Gina Mazany cheating on Tim Elliott.
 
HerpDerp said:
I can't say that I remember exactly how that shit show went down, but my recollection of the events is that it was Romero's corner who caused the confusion.

I could be wrong, but something along the lines of them suddenly not understanding English well enough to know they were supposed to get out of the cage when repeatedly told to do so by the officials?

I guess you could call that simple gamesmanship, but I'm not exactly going to take issue with it if someone wants to call that cheating, either.
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You should have stopped yourself there. It wasn't caused by Romero's corner. BJM explained the the problem. You can find it easily.

And you're also ignoring the fact that any 'gamesmanship' occurred in the context of trying to recover from the opponent blatantly cheating to put you in that situation in the first place. To act like that part of the equation is irrelevant is extremely retarded logic.

It literally was not cheating, as explained by the ref of the fight. So, no, you can't call it that.
 
Carlos Newton's triangle attempt on Matt Serra was some crazy shit!!
 
God that Weidman fight was insane lol, didn't he get a TKO or something because Bruno Silva could not continue after an eye poke?
 
Harlekin said:
AN eyepoke? Wasn't it like 3?
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Yeah I think even more, just I remember the last one being crazy and Silva being in pain.
I dont even remember but I think they did not even deduct a point before that against Weidman.

The worst part was him talking on the mic after the fight, like he just hit an overhand and finished the fight.
 
Jin Akutsu said:
Being a steroid cheat isn't the same as grabbing the cage in a fight to me. Perhaps it is to other users, not to me.
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Why...both are choices and are clearly against the rules .. which everyone knows beforehand...

You cant enforce one and not the other...thats madness
 
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