Media A history of cheating in MMA (with cliffs)

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I was bored during my lunch break and decided to type up some cliffs from a video that interested me. If you're wondering why these seem random and not like a history of anything it's because the video isn't really organized as a history of anything, despite the title. It's just a series of random examples.

-1997-2007 - 7 UFC fighters tested positive for PEDs, as opposed to 0 Pride figthers (they were only tested for party drugs)
-2013 - Bisping vs Belfort with Belfort juiced to the gills, permanently blinding Bisping in one eye (Vitor later got a Therapy Use Exemption)
-1997 - UFC started creating weightclasses, but cheating on the scale is rampant. (Has a clip of CroCop emphatically condemning this practice and how widespread it is.) Some fighters rehydrate and regain up to 20% of their weight between the weigh-in and the fight. Costa fights at MW, but is even too heavy for LHW on the night of the fight. Perreira does the same thing. Rigorous weight cutting affects the health of the fighter, which has ended in fighters dying.
-cheating with the towel while standing on the scale (DC bragging about it)
-using the cage to prevent being taken down, almost never getting points deducted. They use Leon Edwards as an example of someone who does this a lot. They also mention Usman grabbing the cage to take people down.
-Tim Kennedy retired in disgust after Romero's cheating resulted in Kennedy getting knocked out (Stoolgate)
-GSP cheating with vaseline against BJ Penn (with Sherk, Hughes and Miller saying he was also greased up agaisnt them). No one checks for grease and there's no test.
-glove-grabbing - Conor is used as an example here against Poirier.
-short-grabbing - Anderson used as an example in the Chael rematch.
-eye-gouging . they use Leon vs Belal I as an example. Then they rip on Jones for his consistent cheating with eye pokes. Weidman is cited as someone who set new benchmarks for eye-poking in a fight. Gillian Roberts was gouged by Priscila Cachoeira to escape a RNC.
-fish-hooking - Poirier was complaining about getting fish-hooked (maybe also by Conor, I couldn't tell).
-faking fouls to get the DQ or a rest - Usman did it against Cobly and Leon. Diego Sanchez stole a win after he was kneed in the head while grounded and told the refs he was blind and couldn't see.

A solid video, I highly recommend it, but it's not as comprehensive as I would have liked.
 
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I remember when that Hess dude tried tearin a dude's eye out. I think it was a $1000 fine back then, but allowed (or something like that) lol.
Yeah. Watching Hess fight Anderson, I couldn't really tell what was going on. It was only much later I read about how serious the assault was.
 
That video references Kennedy retiring because of Romero but the article it cites on screen clearly shows he retired after getting stopped by Gastelum. Did he ever come out and say directly it's because of the Romero fight?
Tim Kennedy cheated in the yoel fight himself lol, at the end of the second round he very clearly has his fingers in yoels gloves while he pulls him in and uppercuts him multiple times.
 
The refs doing nothing about cheating is one of the worst aspects of this “sport”. First eyepoke, groin shot and fence grab are basically free. The second sometimes gets you a warning. At this point I expect everyone to do it.
And if you're the UFC's money maker, you get unlimited free fouls. I'm looking at you Mcgoober.
 
Countlessly many fouls or rule violations in the UFC over the years, it begs the question is a foul in MMA the same as cheating.

For example in Rugby League you will get penalties all the time for various infractions, like a high tackle or a shoulder charge, but it wouldn't be called cheating, it's a penalty, and maybe the player gets sent off temporarily or for the match.

Something like greasing seems to be pretty obvious cheating, but a lot of the other things in the list less so.
 


I was bored during my lunch break and decided to type up some cliffs from a video that interested me. If you're wondering why these seem random and not like a history of anything it's because the video isn't really organized as a history of anything, despite the title. It's just a series of random examples.

-1997-2007 - 7 UFC fighters tested positive for PEDs, as opposed to 0 Pride figthers (they were only tested for party drugs)
-2013 - Bisping vs Belfort with Belfort juiced to the gills, permanently blinding Bisping in one eye (Vitor later got a Therapy Use Exemption)
-1997 - UFC started creating weightclasses, but cheating on the scale is rampant. (Has a clip of CroCop emphatically condemning this practice and how widespread it is.) Some fighters rehydrate and regain up to 20% of their weight between the weigh-in and the fight. Costa fights at MW, but is even too heavy for LHW on the night of the fight. Perreira does the same thing. Rigorous weight cutting affects the health of the fighter, which has ended in fighters dying.
-cheating with the towel while standing on the scale (DC bragging about it)
-using the cage to prevent being taken down, almost never getting points deducted. They use Leon Edwards as an example of someone who does this a lot. They also mention Usman grabbing the cage to take people down.
-Tim Kennedy retired in disgust after Romero's cheating resulted in Kennedy getting knocked out (Stoolgate)
-GSP cheating with vaseline against BJ Penn (with Sherk, Hughes and Miller saying he was also greased up agaisnt them). No one checks for grease and there's no test.
-glove-grabbing - Conor is used as an example here against Poirier.
-short-grabbing - Anderson used as an example in the Chael rematch.
-eye-gouging . they use Leon vs Belal I as an example. Then they rip on Jones for his consistent cheating with eye pokes. Weidman is cited as someone who set new benchmarks for eye-poking in a fight. Gillian Roberts was gouged by Priscila Cachoeira to escape a RNC.
-fish-hooking - Poirier was complaining about getting fish-hooked (maybe also by Conor, I couldn't tell).
-faking fouls to get the DQ or a rest - Usman did it against Cobly and Leon. Diego Sanchez stole a win after he was kneed in the head while grounded and told the refs he was blind and couldn't see.

A solid video, I highly recommend it, but it's not as comprehensive as I would have liked.

GSP a cheater? Can't be....must've been an innocent mistake!

Great cliffs. Hope you get bored more often.
 
Being a steroid cheat isn't the same as grabbing the cage in a fight to me. Perhaps it is to other users, not to me.
It’s not the same because most of the roster gets away with the steroid cheating (which is therefore not cheating since it’s a level playing field) whereas the other one is blatantly caught on camera so we know all about it.
 
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