9-11 question... real or modern myth

[Lead]

I actually have one of D.M. Murdock's books (the author upon whose assertions Part 1 of the first film is almost entirely based). I think her evidence in many regards is weak and she reaches a lot of times, but I think she genuinely believes in the conclusions she's reached regarding astrotheology.

She actually has responded to much of the criticism with her Zeitgeist Sourcebook, which actually has a lot of interesting stuff in it. Here it is:

http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/zeitgeistsourcebook.pdf




I thought they were all very different films and the only one I really cared for was the first. Parts 2 and 3 were interesting, but they didn't have the impact that I felt the first one did. I'm not sure what you mean about them being the same film. I suppose the core message is the same in a general way, but by parts 2 and 3 Peter Joseph had left all the religion and 9/11 stuff behind.

I watched them in reverse order so maybe that's why i saw it that way

Part three kinda has a message for religion since it accepts science as the basis for society. It still has the subtleties of the first but focuses on the building a new world part more.

 

[the ambush]

If such footage existed, I have to presume it would be available somewhere online. Then again, the CIA/FBI could suppress such a thing couldn't they? I've never seen that, nor read anything about that online.

This. I've been under the belief whatever also happened at the Pentagon will always be a mystery as a CIA/FBI report. The same thing with the WTC video footage that the public "doesn't need to see", it will just disappear.

 

[scrubido]

I'd like to see said video. I'll look for it tonight.

 

[Nonsense]

I'd like to see said video. I'll look for it tonight.

You are full of issues. Someone should start a file on you.

 

[scrubido]

I'm a curious guy. Is that not PC or something?

 

[Stargazer Rex]

I'm a curious guy. Is that not PC or something?

You're good, bro. I let u bang

 

[therealdope]

The jumper pics were not shown after the first day AFAIK. There is also a view ofa plane hitting the WTC from directly below which is stunning. That video was shown on 9/11 only. I think it is in the French film maker's film.

There are a few things that are well controlled. Has anyone ever seen a witness interviewed who observed the pentagon strike? That one pentagon video that was released from the security camera is ridiculously ambiguous.

 

[JordanLUFC]

I've only heard the sounds of a body crashing into a roof I think it was, from some 9/11 documentary. That was horrific enough

 

[Bagatur]

Why would you want to see footage of the bodies hitting the ground?

yeah, that shit is terrible! watch at your own discretion!

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[ShinkanPo]

I would assume some security cameras from nearby buildings have captured some impacts

 

[Lodbrok]

i saw them but i cant post then cos i get the banned hammer nor i think is ethical to do so.

 

[ShinkanPo]

Its been 13 years but its still fresh in most peoples memories, I am not even from the USA, but seeing thousands of people die on live TV, has affected me, I had nightmares for days.

My favorite band dream theater made a song as a tribute.

 

[Sturmovik]

There are a few things that are well controlled. Has anyone ever seen a witness interviewed who observed the pentagon strike? That one pentagon video that was released from the security camera is ridiculously ambiguous.

There are heaps if people actually bother to look for them.
The plane flew over a heap of people driving on the road out the front of the pentagon, theres even an interview with the cab driver who's car was hit by a light pole knocked over by the plane's wing.


There was some rumor of the first official victim of that day, Mychal Judge (a chaplain) was hit by a 'jumper'

 

[irish_thug]

I've seen way too many jumpers in person, I have no desire to watch video of it. As for the condition of the body after impact, the only one I've seen where the body was completely obliterated was a subway jumper, it was like the train hit a garbage bag full of blood and meat.

 

[RoninJin]

hey, out of the blue one day, i want to see some mangled bodies that have fallen from towers, anybody got?

 

[MC Paul Barman]

You're right, I'm so lucky I'm not in Wisconsin. That state sucks, especially since you're jabbing the shit of it.

Leave my state and my jab out of this, guy.

 

[Chinballs]

I've seen way too many jumpers in person, I have no desire to watch video of it. As for the condition of the body after impact, the only one I've seen where the body was completely obliterated was a subway jumper, it was like the train hit a garbage bag full of blood and meat.

I know what you mean. I saw a chick had done this when I walked outside a tall building and the local fuckbag populus had all gathered around with their phones to take pictures. Your train metaphore strikes true.

 

[irish_thug]

I know what you mean. I saw a chick had done this when I walked outside a tall building and the local fuckbag populus had all gathered around with their phones to take pictures. Your train metaphore strikes true.

I do not understand the compulsion to take pictures of that shit comes from.

 

[Chinballs]

I do not understand the compulsion to take pictures of that shit comes from.

Yea it kinda made my stomach turn. It was in a immigrant neighbourhood. The girl was swedish but not the ones taking snapshots.

Being very racist wasn't far away at that point but maybe it's common for all kinds of douchebags to do that, I've only seen it once.

 

[irish_thug]

Yea it kinda made my stomach turn. It was in a immigrant neighbourhood. The girl was swedish but not the ones taking snapshots.

Being very racist wasn't far away at that point but maybe it's common for all kinds of douchebags to do that, I've only seen it once.

It's disturbingly common in North America. I wish it wasn't. It paints a sad picture of humanity.