8K physical media

[GSP_37]

My guess is there will be practical limits on speed of laser reading discs and discs with sufficient layers, so maybe there will be movies on cartridges of flash memory or some other form of storage that can be read super fast without overheating.

 

[LuchaBear]

Has anyone actually seen 8K? Is there a huge difference at this point?

 

[GSP_37]

Has anyone actually seen 8K? Is there a huge difference at this point?

Good question. I'm curious if the video of some high speed action or a lot of stuff moving on screen at high speed will cause the video to blur or pixelate.

 

[LuchaBear]

I also wonder if we'll always stick with the 24 fps framerate. Hobbit got shitted on for trying a different framerate at the time but maybe there's a better one.

 

[Goonerview]

I grew up on VHS and box-shaped televisions.

For me, DVDs are still cutting edge!

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Have you made the jump to 4K UHD media yourself yet or are you strictly a streamer?
What about your television?

Yeah a couple of months ago upgraded my old plasma and went with a 55 inch LG OLED when the price was in my range(around £1000), I'm mostly physical media, the odd streaming for stuff that I can't get or that I don't think would be worth a rewatch, about a dozen UHD releases so far although quality BR's look excellent to.

 

[rj144]

I grew up on VHS and box-shaped televisions.

For me, DVDs are still cutting edge!

So did I, but I got a DVD player about 20 years ago, HD TV like 15 years ago, Bluray about 10 years ago, and 4k TV about 4 years ago.

Get with the times man...

 

[TankvsNelmark]

Lots of poor people in here!

 

[sweetviolenturg]

Yeah a couple of months ago upgraded my old plasma and went with a 55 inch LG OLED when the price was in my range(around £1000), I'm mostly physical media, the odd streaming for stuff that I can't get or that I don't think would be worth a rewatch, about a dozen UHD releases so far although quality BR's look excellent to.

Very cool. I just bought the same TV but in a 70". It's a remarkable piece of hardware, isn't it?
I think I've got about the same number of UHD discs, perhaps a couple more, maybe 15. I buy all my new releases in UHD but I'm being judicious about which movies I upgrade if I already own a Blu-ray of it. It's got tp be an absolute favorite for me to double-dip on it. Well, actually, I've been around long enough to be on my fourth type of physical media with some films. With older classics like HALLOWEEN, AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON & THE EVIL DEAD I own them on VHS, DVD, Blu-ray & now UHD. The only format I skipped was laserdisc.

 

[rj144]

Very cool. I just bought the same TV but in a 70". It's a remarkable piece of hardware, isn't it?
I think I've got about the same number of UHD discs, perhaps a couple more, maybe 15. I buy all my new releases in UHD but I'm being judicious about which movies I upgrade if I already own a Blu-ray of it. It's got tp be an absolute favorite for me to double-dip on it. Well, actually, I've been around long enough to be on my fourth type of physical media with some films. With older classics like HALLOWEEN, AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON & THE EVIL DEAD I own them on VHS, DVD, Blu-ray & now UHD. The only format I skipped was laserdisc.

You got a 70" or 65"?

 

[Drain Bamage]

Nobody cares howe big your tv is dude!

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Very cool. I just bought the same TV but in a 70". It's a remarkable piece of hardware, isn't it?
I think I've got about the same number of UHD discs, perhaps a couple more, maybe 15. I buy all my new releases in UHD but I'm being judicious about which movies I upgrade if I already own a Blu-ray of it. It's got tp be an absolute favorite for me to double-dip on it. Well, actually, I've been around long enough to be on my fourth type of physical media with some films. With older classics like HALLOWEEN, AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON & THE EVIL DEAD I own them on VHS, DVD, Blu-ray & now UHD. The only format I skipped was laserdisc.

The only newer stuff I have in UHD at the moment is Blade Runner 2049 and Sicario, its mostly been older classics like the original Blade Runner, Alien, 2001, Angel Heart, The Shining, etc.

That said I actually think a lot of the benefit of 4K has been forcing studio's to do higher quality remasters of a lot more releases, 4K scans and keep the grain rather than just using HD level scans originally intended for DVD's. I'm watching the German release of Paris Texas right now on BR and it looks fantastic, not quite as good as it would in UHD I'd guess but much better than the BR of a few years ago.

 

[Drain Bamage]

The only newer stuff I have in UHD at the moment is Blade Runner 2049 and Sicario, its mostly been older classics like the original Blade Runner, Alien, 2001, Angel Heart, The Shining, etc.

That said I actually think a lot of the benefit of 4K has been forcing studio's to do higher quality remasters of a lot more releases, 4K scans and keep the grain rather than just using HD level scans originally intended for DVD's. I'm watching the German release of Paris Texas right now on BR and it looks fantastic, not quite as good as it would in UHD I'd guess but much better than the BR for a few years ago.

I dont like how they are changing the color grade on stuff. Like T2 looks like a completely different movie on the 4k. They also digitally changed some stuff, like put Arnies face over the stuntmans on a few scenes where jts clearly visible they used a stuntman. The old Lionsgate blu ray isnt as sharp, but atleast its the original movie without being George Lucas'd with new fx and a teal-orange color grade (which looks great, but just isnt authentic to how the movie originally looked which was more steely and cool.)

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I dont like how they are changing the color grade on stuff. Like T2 looks like a completely different movie on the 4k. They also digitally changed some stuff, like put Arnies face over the stuntmans on a few scenes where jts clearly visible they used a stuntman. The old Lionsgate blu ray isnt as sharp, but atleast its the original movie without being George Lucas'd with new fx and a teal-orange color grade (which looks great, but just isnt authentic to how the movie originally looked which was more steely and cool.)

The CGIing of Arnies face goes back years doesn't it? I think its on an old DVD I have from the late 00's but T2 generally hasn't been well served by home releases and the recent one does not have a good rep I'd agree, a lot of noise reduction and questionable colour shifts.

That said a lot of recent releases are the opposite IMHO, there correcting the films back towards the original look after years of home releases(which I spose is all a lot of people have ever seen for many of them) that had messed around with them trying to keep to some current style. In terms of HDR as well the kind of dymanic range TV's had previously was not automatically the same as film, just that we'd become used to the difference.

 

[sweetviolenturg]

You got a 70" or 65"?

You got a 70" or 65"?

My bad. I'm confused myself because. LOL. The one I just bought is actually a 75" LG 4K UHD that I put in our living room. While the 65" LG OLED that I got this past August is now in our bedroom. The OLED TV in the bedroom actually has a slightly better picture but I wanted a bigger screen in the living room. I would have loved to have gone with an OLED in the living room as well but the next size up from 65" is their 77" which I couldn't get my wife to sign off on as it cost about five grand. And even she had, I probably wouldn't have gone for it because of the possibility of an 8K upgrade in a couple of years should the prices drop enough. I wouldn't want to sink that kind of money into something that I might want to replace so soon.

 

[sweetviolenturg]

Nobody cares howe big your tv is dude!

Dude, what is your problem?
Seriously, other than that whole thing with THE GODFATHER we've never had any issues that I'm aware of. So what's up?
If you don't like hearing about the things going on in my life, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe I tend to give too much information but that's the way that I write & I'm not going to apologize for it. If you're really that put off by it might I suggest simply ignoring my posts rather than making snide comments about them?
Whatever, it makes no difference to me. I just thought we were cool so I'm curious about your recent hostility.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

The difference between LCD and OLED to me seems to be by far the most obvious thing in the market these days,.I'm not really obsessed with tiny differences but I always preffered plasma to LCD due to the latter not having as deep blacks. LCD has definitely improved but OLED has pushed even further and IMHO gives you more benefit of UHD releases.

Again though I think there are two things at play here, UHD does definitely push beyond the capabilities of HD but were also dealing with difference levels of scanning of film prints. The impression I get is that a lot of early BR disks were basically using masters that had been created for DVD and then downscaled, more recently though were seeing a lot of 4K scans(especially on third party lables) which look significantly better even if their downscaled onto HD, I do the same thing scanning film for stills shooting, scan very high rest(50+ MP) and downscale. Half assing those early BR's for cheap income was I suspect part of the reason why the format didn't take off as fast as hoped as the upgrade wasn't as significant as it should have been a lot of the time.

UHD generally is IMHO great for horror films, Alien, The Shining, Don't Look Now and Angel Heart would probably be my 4 favourite releases so far, I spose because they tend to have very strong contrast to them and indeed more of a feeling of realism arguably helps these kinds of films more. Blade Runner of course as well, not perfect IMHO with still a bit too much teal(although much better than the BR) and some artefacts in the noise at points but does suit the medium very well indeed.

Oh and if you in the US I believe UHD disks are region free so you could import Angel Heart and Don't Look Now if you can't wait for a domestic release.

 

[Prutfis]

I’m curious if 4K streaming will ever take off. Many internet companies have data caps. Mine is like 1000gb a month. You’d be over within a few days streaming 4K movies and tv shows.

and I don’t even own a DVD player anymore. I’m straight up streaming everything. Fuck discs

Works fine on Netflix. I can easily have 3-4 TVs running Netflix 4K HDR Dolby Vision. No lag at all. Think I read somewhere that the average for a Netflix movie in highest res is around 60gb used. Who the hell has data caps in 2020?

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Works fine on Netflix. I can easily have 3-4 TVs running Netflix 4K HDR Dolby Vision. No lag at all. Think I read somewhere that the average for a Netflix movie in highest res is around 60gb used. Who the hell has data caps in 2020?

If there's an issue with streaming its actually that there's some compromise in quality to reduce the size of the files, I'v not heard of many people hitting their data caps from using it for 4K.

 

[TestosterOWN]

Works fine on Netflix. I can easily have 3-4 TVs running Netflix 4K HDR Dolby Vision. No lag at all. Think I read somewhere that the average for a Netflix movie in highest res is around 60gb used. Who the hell has data caps in 2020?

In vegas with Cox I think it’s 1TB a month. But you can pay more to have unlimited. And Cox is the top dog in Vegas.