4 reasons why I think Woodley doesn't have much credibility as a champion

He earned the belt, but his words and actions this week have shown me that he is not very socially aware or introspective. Ducking Wonderboy so hard that I thought he would fold in half, insisting he's a star and deserves big money superfights, power-playing the division like he's a boss who's cleaned it out. His fall will be sweet, and it will be soon.
 
1-3 on point. 4 is subjective. He beat the champ, he's the best now. The question is where does he go from here. Thompson or Maya, He can stay that way. If his first title defense is against Nick Diaz, one way ticket to Punk Town.
 
He got the shot cause his number 1 contender fight with hendricks got cancelled due to hendricks being sent to the hospital by the scale
 
Woodley walked right through Lawler like he wasn't even there.

IT......WAS....AWESOME!
Yeah Lawler just seemed off. Like he never got out of neutral he basically did nothing before the finish. Had actually picked Woodley but still a bit surprised with how it happened.
 
He's 6-2 in the UFC with stoppages over Condit and Lawler. I've seen worse resumes...
 
You got to love these forums. Where people's self inflated opinions, guesses, and excuses mean more than the actual fight results.
That was the whole point of mma to end all the bench racing and talk and let the results speak for themselves.

Why do some of you even watch the fights. You make lengthy WRONG predictions. Then refute and dismiss decisive stoppage victories. Save your PPV money or the dangers of streaming. Just start some fantasy fight club where your own narrative actually matters.

Yep they want fixed fights where only their fantasy hero wins every time .
 
I feel he is a better rep as a champ than lawler was. Lawler was a journeyman with a great chin and heart and great power. Then you check his resume and he's been beaten 11 times with a few iffy decision wins (Condit, Hendricks 2) as well. Woodley only has 3 losses and can build a better aura around him. A guy with double digit losses like Robbie was bound to get back to his basically win 2 lose 1 ratio and we don't need those types as champs of a sport.
 
He earned the belt, but his words and actions this week have shown me that he is not very socially aware or introspective. Ducking Wonderboy so hard that I thought he would fold in half, insisting he's a star and deserves big money superfights, power-playing the division like he's a boss who's cleaned it out. His fall will be sweet, and it will be soon.

Conor is doing the same and is called brilliant for doing it.
 
I'm not reading all of that bullshit when it's just a long drawn out post if you bitching. Woodley did what no other fighter since nick Diaz has been able to do. And that's ko Robbie. There's your fucking credibility...
 
1.He didn't earn his title shot. The UFC are cultivating an era of low-profile mediocre-ability champions by handing out title shots to anyone with a podcast or some Twitter followers.

In order to get his shot against GSP, Johny Hendricks had to go 6-0, including wins over Condit, Fitch, Kampmann and Koscheck.

If the UFC was still running its affairs properly, this is what earning a title shot looks like. Beating a host of fellow contenders in and around the top 15, with some of them proven top 5 guys, and some of them via KO or at least very emphatic/dominant victories.

Tyron Woodley got a title on a 2-0 run, 2 wins in over 2 years, with zero wins against fighters in the division's top 5. He knocked out K1 Kim, a wreckless and mediocre striker who should have stayed a boring wrestler, and won a close, unconvincing, tepid decision vs an overweight, demotivated version of Kelvin Gastelum, who was later sent packing from the division's upper echelons by Neil Magny, himself a borderline top 10 guy.


Why was Woodley given a title shot on a 2-0 run over 2 years (0 fights vs top 5 comp) when in the same division are Stephen Thompson is on a 7-0 run (2 wins vs top 5 comp), and Demian Maia is on a 5-0 run?

Is it because 'T-Wood' is part of the media crew on Fox? Because he's friends with some people at Zuffa? Because he has a podcast?

That title shot had no credibility. This nepotism is in a way even worse than giving a TUF winner a crack at the belt.




2.It's always a bad situation when you have a champion who has already been definitively proven to be inferior to another fighter in the division.

When GSP or Anderson Silva or Jon Jones or Jose Aldo or Demetrious Johnson sit on top of their division, there is no fighter lingering within the weight class who has shown to be better than them. That's a real champion.

Tyron Woodley was absolutely dominated by Rory MacDonald. He wasn't even competitive. Rory won every minute of every round, and basically had Tyron surrendering, just trying to run the clock down and not get badly beat up before the bell went.

Woodley wears the gold right now, but you can't take him seriously as a champion when a guy who beat him so easily is still active. Rory could re-sign with the UFC any day now. If that happens, it makes T-Wood look like even more of a paper champion, as there was nothing whatsoever in that fight to suggest a rematch would be any different. MacDonald is unquestionably the better fighter - something that could not be said if they'd given the shot to a guy who'd actually earned it (Thompson).




3.Woodley's post-fight presser behaviour. How obvious is it that the man himself doesn't believe in his ability to have a title reign, when he publicly rejects a match-up with an undisputed number 1 contender on a 7-0 tear (including wins over his own conqueror MacDonald and a KO of a former champ Hendricks), in favour of a fight with Nick Diaz, a guy...

...who hasn't fought in 18 months

...hasn't fought in this division for almost three-and-a-half years

...and hasn't won a frickin' fight in almost five years!!


How can anyone take that seriously as a champion????




4.Woodley is clearly not the best fighter in his weight class. Plain and simple. Just like Bisping at middleweight.

Woodley has been knocked out horribly by Nate Marquardt, outstruck and defeated by Jake fucking Baby Legkick Shields, dominated and mastered by Rory MacDonald (now on a 0-2 skid himself), and barely sneaked by a terrible version of Kelvin Gastelum on a split decision.

He was in the right place at the right time with the right punch to end Lawler's reign of two-way destruction, but considering his UFC form to date, the chances of him having any sort of a reign are so low. This has "short term champ" written all over it. The guy has no cardio and rudimentary striking.

Stephen Thompson will slice this guy to ribbons, just like he did to Hendricks, and send Woodley back to the lower reaches of the top 10 where he belongs. Just like Rockhold or Weidman or Jacare will do to Bisping once he has been allowed to feast on the ghostly remains of the once-great Dan Hendo.

Poor, poor champions here. UFC making shit decisions all over the shop.


This is a long and emotional post. You seem to really dislike Woodley. I take him seriously as the champion. =)
 
I got a good one...

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Marquardt is a known juicer. That fight means nothing.
 
He earned the belt, but his words and actions this week have shown me that he is not very socially aware or introspective. Ducking Wonderboy so hard that I thought he would fold in half, insisting he's a star and deserves big money superfights, power-playing the division like he's a boss who's cleaned it out. His fall will be sweet, and it will be soon.
You can't really blame him for "ducking Wonderboy" though - I struggle to believe that you wouldn't do the same if you were in his situation. He's a smart guy and knows that Wonderboy is a very very tough matchup for him for probably half of the money that he could earn fighting Nick - a far easier matchup. Being 34 and all I don't blame him one bit
 
Don´t worry TS, the belt will soon pass..
 
I don't even have to read this shit. He just done something to Robbie that no ones done since Nate Diaz in 2004. Fastest win in WW champion history. Deal with it.
 
He got the shot cause his number 1 contender fight with hendricks got cancelled due to hendricks being sent to the hospital by the scale

So what kind of reason for a title shot is that? It's pathetic. You get a title fight for not winning a title eliminator? Ridiculous. The fact is Wooders was 2-0 with 0 top 5 wins, and Wonderboy was 7-0 with 2 top 5 wins. The title shot was indefensible.
 
Marquardt is a known juicer. That fight means nothing.
Considering where he was at with his career at the time and how badly he slid since, it's like Ellenberger last night only it's got better with time.
 
The quickest time someone has won the belt in WW history. He laid out the guy everyone said was iron chinned and too tough and made it look super easy
 
I'm not reading all of that bullshit when it's just a long drawn out post if you bitching. Woodley did what no other fighter since nick Diaz has been able to do. And that's ko Robbie. There's your fucking credibility...

Yep he slept him stiff. Woodley has awesome KO power and great wrestling.
 
don't the wors duck but twood ia ducking thompson big time. twood is not a warror at all only looking for pay day seeing hiw nate got paid. i missed the days of chuck liddell where he take on all comers and would fight the best.
 
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