4 reasons why I think Woodley doesn't have much credibility as a champion

[threelions]

He beat the champ that's all that's needed. If it bothers you so much then your own points say he won't be champ for long anyways so cheer up.

 

[Kelman]

He's 6-2 in the UFC with stoppages over Condit and Lawler. I've seen worse resumes...

Nice use of "stoppage" instead of "KO/TKO" re the Condit fight.

I loved Vitor Belfort's "stoppage" of Randy Couture too.

 

[79Stitches]

Conor is doing the same and is called brilliant for doing it.

Conor has a fanbase and generates money. Conor is a bonafide star. Woodley has push and TV slots and still bitches about not being a star because the UFC doesn't push him enough. You do understand the MASSIVE difference between a superstar and a wannabe, right?

 

[Red91StangCT]

Not only did he deserve the title shot but he also won in dramatic unequivocal fashion and cannot be denied.

War Woodley!

Yeah, no shit. I also disagree with the TS that Hendricks beat Condit.

 

[orangecuse]

I didn't see as many people not taking the previous champ seriously. He should be on a 2 fihgt losing streak now and should've been coming off a loss. Did you make this rant after the Condit fight or Bisping win?

Both Hendricks fights were close and kind of lame too. To this day people act like Robbie is unbeatable against the guy he first had to comeback to win a close decision then had to come back to break his nose and win in the second fight. That's the big thing they'll shit on Woodley for. In reality between the two of them Woodley was beat-up less than Robbie in either fight against Rory. The woodley-Rory fight was lame and Rory feared him more IMO. The Rory-Robbie fights were sick because Rory was styling on him a lot, showing more skill in much of both fights but then Robbie came back with grit and toughness.

Anyone in the top five always had/has a decent chance to beat Robbie and he was proven not to be the clear best in division. Same with Woodley. Why the crying now? Are people crying as much and making these same threads after Stipe and Bisping won.

 

[79Stitches]

You can't really blame him for "ducking Wonderboy" though - I struggle to believe that you wouldn't do the same if you were in his situation. He's a smart guy and knows that Wonderboy is a very very tough matchup for him for probably half of the money that he could earn fighting Nick - a far easier matchup. Being 34 and all I don't blame him one bit

Justify as you will, you just admitted he's not dominant champ material. He know s this, hence his immediate attempts to stave off his demise and fight retired fighters.

 

[Diggem]

I don't even have to read this shit. He just done something to Robbie that no ones done since Nate Diaz in 2004. Fastest win in WW champion history. Deal with it.

It was a great fighter and shows that Woodley is awesome.

 

[Mau]

The only thing that matters is that he is 1-0 against the now ex-champion.

 

[MMAViewer]

1.He didn't earn his title shot. The UFC are cultivating an era of low-profile mediocre-ability champions by handing out title shots to anyone with a podcast or some Twitter followers.

In order to get his shot against GSP, Johny Hendricks had to go 6-0, including wins over Condit, Fitch, Kampmann and Koscheck.

If the UFC was still running its affairs properly, this is what earning a title shot looks like. Beating a host of fellow contenders in and around the top 15, with some of them proven top 5 guys, and some of them via KO or at least very emphatic/dominant victories.

Tyron Woodley got a title on a 2-0 run, 2 wins in over 2 years, with zero wins against fighters in the division's top 5. He knocked out K1 Kim, a wreckless and mediocre striker who should have stayed a boring wrestler, and won a close, unconvincing, tepid decision vs an overweight, demotivated version of Kelvin Gastelum, who was later sent packing from the division's upper echelons by Neil Magny, himself a borderline top 10 guy.


Why was Woodley given a title shot on a 2-0 run over 2 years (0 fights vs top 5 comp) when in the same division are Stephen Thompson is on a 7-0 run (2 wins vs top 5 comp), and Demian Maia is on a 5-0 run?

Is it because 'T-Wood' is part of the media crew on Fox? Because he's friends with some people at Zuffa? Because he has a podcast?

That title shot had no credibility. This nepotism is in a way even worse than giving a TUF winner a crack at the belt.




2.It's always a bad situation when you have a champion who has already been definitively proven to be inferior to another fighter in the division.

When GSP or Anderson Silva or Jon Jones or Jose Aldo or Demetrious Johnson sit on top of their division, there is no fighter lingering within the weight class who has shown to be better than them. That's a real champion.

Tyron Woodley was absolutely dominated by Rory MacDonald. He wasn't even competitive. Rory won every minute of every round, and basically had Tyron surrendering, just trying to run the clock down and not get badly beat up before the bell went.

Woodley wears the gold right now, but you can't take him seriously as a champion when a guy who beat him so easily is still active. Rory could re-sign with the UFC any day now. If that happens, it makes T-Wood look like even more of a paper champion, as there was nothing whatsoever in that fight to suggest a rematch would be any different. MacDonald is unquestionably the better fighter - something that could not be said if they'd given the shot to a guy who'd actually earned it (Thompson).




3.Woodley's post-fight presser behaviour. How obvious is it that the man himself doesn't believe in his ability to have a title reign, when he publicly rejects a match-up with an undisputed number 1 contender on a 7-0 tear (including wins over his own conqueror MacDonald and a KO of a former champ Hendricks), in favour of a fight with Nick Diaz, a guy...

...who hasn't fought in 18 months

...hasn't fought in this division for almost three-and-a-half years

...and hasn't won a frickin' fight in almost five years!!


How can anyone take that seriously as a champion????




4.Woodley is clearly not the best fighter in his weight class. Plain and simple. Just like Bisping at middleweight.

Woodley has been knocked out horribly by Nate Marquardt, outstruck and defeated by Jake fucking Baby Legkick Shields, dominated and mastered by Rory MacDonald (now on a 0-2 skid himself), and barely sneaked by a terrible version of Kelvin Gastelum on a split decision.

He was in the right place at the right time with the right punch to end Lawler's reign of two-way destruction, but considering his UFC form to date, the chances of him having any sort of a reign are so low. This has "short term champ" written all over it. The guy has no cardio and rudimentary striking.

Stephen Thompson will slice this guy to ribbons, just like he did to Hendricks, and send Woodley back to the lower reaches of the top 10 where he belongs. Just like Rockhold or Weidman or Jacare will do to Bisping once he has been allowed to feast on the ghostly remains of the once-great Dan Hendo.

Poor, poor champions here. UFC making shit decisions all over the shop.

Are you Brazilian?

 

[79Stitches]

I didn't see as many people not taking the previous champ seriously. HE should be aon 2 fihgt losing streak now and should've been coming off a loss much crap. Did you make this rant after the Condit fight or Bisping win?

Both Hendricks fights were close and kind of lame too. To this day people act like Robbie is unbeatable against the guy he first had to comeback to win a close decision then had to come back to break his nose and win in the second fight. That's the big thing they'll shit on Woodley for. In reality between the two of them Woodley was beat-up less than Robbie in either fight against Rory. The woodley-Rory fight was lame and Rory feared him more IMO. the Rory-Rpbbie fights were sick because Rory was styling on him a lot, showing more skill in much of both fights but then Robbie came back with grit and toughness.

Anyone in the top five always had/has a decent chance to beat Robbie and he was proven not to be the clear best in division. Same with Woodley. Why the crying now? Are people crying as much and making these same threads after Stipe and Bisping won.

Nobody acts like Robbie is unbeatable. Everyone acts like Robbie was a respectable blood-and-guts warrior who made his fights worth the watch and money.

 

[Diggem]

I didn't see as many people not taking the previous champ seriously. He should be on a 2 fihgt losing streak now and should've been coming off a loss. Did you make this rant after the Condit fight or Bisping win?

Both Hendricks fights were close and kind of lame too. To this day people act like Robbie is unbeatable against the guy he first had to comeback to win a close decision then had to come back to break his nose and win in the second fight. That's the big thing they'll shit on Woodley for. In reality between the two of them Woodley was beat-up less than Robbie in either fight against Rory. The woodley-Rory fight was lame and Rory feared him more IMO. The Rory-Robbie fights were sick because Rory was styling on him a lot, showing more skill in much of both fights but then Robbie came back with grit and toughness.

Anyone in the top five always had/has a decent chance to beat Robbie and he was proven not to be the clear best in division. Same with Woodley. Why the crying now? Are people crying as much and making these same threads after Stipe and Bisping won.

Stipe,Bisping and Conor are not explosive and athletic so therefor what they do is brilliant but if Woodley does the same thing then he is the villain.

 

[tnsinga]

Justify as you will, you just admitted he's not dominant champ material. He know s this, hence his immediate attempts to stave off his demise and fight retired fighters.

Your right, he's not dominant champ material and he does probably know that, so fair play to him for trying to make a shitload of money whilst he can, i wish him well

 

[peterparker66]

Does ripping down another mans accomplishments make you feel like more of a Man ???

 

[Tntnicks]

Get a life dude. Its only a fight. Woodley won....I won! Since I bet on him!....next!

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Yep they want fixed fights where only their fantasy hero wins every time .

Yeah Its baffling and annoying . Why even follow the sport if the results mean nothing ? Just seems like a waste of time. Dude is champ because he got a flawless victory and beat down the legit champ. Doesn't matter whether a nobody thought he deserved the shot. Champ takes on and is expected to beat all comers. Some people must be very new to combat sports. The champ doesnt fight the #1 contender in every defense. Otherwise he would fight the same few guys everytime. The UFC thought he deserved it based off of him being a company guy and the fact that he got screwed by Gastulem and Hendricks but was still willing and ready to fight.
The sheer fact that he murked the champ proves he was one of the few who was deserving of the shot.

 

[Wrapup]

When you KOnthe champ, the belt is real. And while Thinpson deserves his shot, I can't blame Woodley for looking to get paid. These guys have a limited career, have to get paid while they can.

 

[IamStryker]

Agree with TS

Stop ducking Wonderboy!

 

[Furious77]

So what kind of reason for a title shot is that? It's pathetic. You get a title fight for not winning a title eliminator? Ridiculous. The fact is Wooders was 2-0 with 0 top 5 wins, and Wonderboy was 7-0 with 2 top 5 wins. The title shot was indefensible.

OK that's fine but that's on Dana.

 

[tokimus]

So what kind of reason for a title shot is that? It's pathetic. You get a title fight for not winning a title eliminator? Ridiculous. The fact is Wooders was 2-0 with 0 top 5 wins, and Wonderboy was 7-0 with 2 top 5 wins. The title shot was indefensible.

He made weight hendricks didnt. Since he didnt fuck up the ufc promised him a shot which wouldve been on the line had hendricks made weight. He sat out for it til he got it. Didnt say it was a great case for a title shot but not the most obsurd undeserved shot we have ever seen.

 

[StayCranked]

then what about the credibility of Lawler as a champion? He got destroyed in the first round by Woodley