Elections 2022 Mid-term Elections PBP

[Joe]

Kim isnt even a chinese name. He cant even do racism well when hes trying to be racist. What a dumb ass.

 

[Scerpi]

Weird that these isn't a single conservative run utopia in the country if you guys are so good at it and democrats are so bad at it.

The more reasonable explanation is that conservative politicians and leaders are so self serving, they don't bother trying to help communities that may not vote for them. They neglect cities in their own states because it doesn't benefit them to try.

The largest cities run by Republicans are Fort Worth and Jacksonville, both with similar or worse rates of crime than anywhere else in the country. Republicans don't run a single city with a million or more people.

No they don't. Just can't help yourself, can you. Liar...

The ten cities with the highest violent crime rates (number of incidents per 100,000 people) are:

1. St. Louis, MO (2,082)
2. Detroit, MI (2,057)
3. Baltimore, MD (2,027)
4. Memphis, TN (2,003)
5. Little Rock, AR (1,634)
6. Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
7. Rockford, IL (1,588)
8. Cleveland, OH (1,557)
9. Stockton, CA (1,415)
10. Albuquerque, NM (1,369)

Fort Worth (501)
Jacksonville (595)

 

[Andy Capp]

So, the guy's name is "an interesting take" and "sounds Chinese doesn't it?" but p Trump and his followers are totally not even a little bit racist. Not at all.



Edit: I mean, what the fuck does that even mean, an interesting take? What a garbage human being.

 

[Rational Poster]

No they don't. Just can't help yourself, can you. Liar...

The ten cities with the highest violent crime rates (number of incidents per 100,000 people) are:

1. St. Louis, MO (2,082)
2. Detroit, MI (2,057)
3. Baltimore, MD (2,027)
4. Memphis, TN (2,003)
5. Little Rock, AR (1,634)
6. Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
7. Rockford, IL (1,588)
8. Cleveland, OH (1,557)
9. Stockton, CA (1,415)
10. Albuquerque, NM (1,369)

Fort Worth (501)
Jacksonville (595)

I wasn't comparing them to the worst cities in the country, but all cities in the country.

They're no better than the average and in many cases they're worse.

 

[Scerpi]

If I were DeSantis, I wouldn't even bother with 2024 tbh. The GOP itself may be desperate to retake the executive branch, but what the hell is the rush for him or the trajectory of his political career? The dude is 44 and can just stay comfy running Florida for another four years, complete his full term in 2026 and then go ALL-IN on a two-year POTUS campaign for what will be a wide-open 2028.

Sure, the clock is probably ticking for right-wing politics and Republicans to be able to win national elections but it'll still be plenty possible at that point (#ElectoralCollegeBless) and the public is usually primed for change after eight years of any party being in power.

Also agree... DeSantis is young. He has time, Trump doesn't.

The GOP has no leadership either right now. After the failure of mid-terms, they all need to be fired.... lol

 

[genecop]

So, the guy's name is "an interesting take" and "sounds Chinese doesn't it?" but p Trump and his followers are totally not even a little bit racist. Not at all.



Edit: I mean, what the fuck does that even mean, an interesting take? What a fuckstick.

Mandy, I thought we talked about name calling around here…
Don’t do it…

 

[Joe]

In the middle of a weak economy with the worst inflation in four decades during a crime wave resulting from Democrat's negligence and naivety.

If Republicans don't recognize this was a referendum on Trumpism, and that it has no future as the platform of the party, 2024 will prove a cold bucket of water.

Trumpism is the republican party. There is a reason they fell in so fast. There is a reason he ran as a republican.

 

[MMAisGod]

So, the guy's name is "an interesting take" and "sounds Chinese doesn't it?" but p Trump and his followers are totally not even a little bit racist. Not at all.



Edit: I mean, what the fuck does that even mean, an interesting take? What a garbage human being.

Bro that comment was wild racist. This dude just finds ways to get lower and lower.

 

[Andy Capp]

 

[idrankyourbeer]

why is he attacking youngkin? did youngkin just lost lose some kind of election? whats the beef with glenn youngkin all of a sudden? is it because he condemned the act of violence against nancy pelosi's husband the other day? if not i dont understand.

but lol that tweet of his has upset Ben Garrison, and Scott Adams - the Dilbert creator and now they are both off the trump wagon too. there goes the shitty cartoonist bloc.

theyre abandoning trumps sinking ship and he's sitting there raging at everybody on truth social like "i made you all! if it wasnt for me you'd be nothing! i am the greatest! me me me me me!"

anyways now that diaper don's bromance with young kin is over, perhaps he can now move his support towards young kim



no idea who the hell she is, but unlike donald trump, this republican was able to win her last election.

 

[Scerpi]

Weird that these isn't a single conservative run utopia in the country if you guys are so good at it and democrats are so bad at it.

The more reasonable explanation is that conservative politicians and leaders are so self serving, they don't bother trying to help communities that may not vote for them. They neglect cities in their own states because it doesn't benefit them to try.

The largest cities run by Republicans are Fort Worth and Jacksonville, both with similar or worse rates of crime than anywhere else in the country. Republicans don't run a single city with a million or more people.

As far as utopias... Why are suburbs usually the far safer and more desirable places to live?

lol.... We can start with crime rates to start and then we'll comparing voting trends between the City Centers and the outlying Suburbs.

For example... Here in the Houston Metro (Harris Country)

There's Houston Metro inside the loop...

There's the major surrounding towns... League City, Missouri City, Pearland, Cypress, Spring, etc... Want to compare them?

That's right, you don't, because then you'll have to face reality.

 

[Rational Poster]

As far as utopias... Why are suburbs usually the far safer and more desirable places to live?

lol.... We can start with crime rates to start and then we'll comparing voting trends between the City Centers and the outlying Suburbs.

For example... Here in the Houston Metro (Harris Country)

There's Houston Metro inside the loop...

There's the major surrounding towns... League City, Missouri City, Pearland, Cypress, Spring, etc... Want to compare them?

That's right, you don't, because then you'll have to face reality.

Okay back to my original question then.

If Republican leadership is so good why don't they take that to places larger than a small town or suburb?

In the very few places they do govern places larger than a small town or suburb, why are the crime rates not significantly different from anywhere else of a similar size?

 

[I Am Legion]

The sentencing in the US isn't more lenient than most developed countries though, and you have more people per capita in prison than anywhere. 3 times the incarceration rate of here in Australia. You have a shockingly low clearance rate for homicide cases for a developed country though. Only around half your murders have convictions compared to 90% plus in other developed nations.
This isn't limited to cities either, and your worst states are Georgia, Maryland, Illinois, Tennessee, Alabama, South Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi, Missouri and Louisiana. How many of those have lenient legislation or Democrat administration?
You had decades of "tough on crime" and "war on drugs" policies from both you major parties, and your rates are still comparable to those of undeveloped or developing nations.

Crime soiked in my city after the Protest and Bail reform laws. Can not deny that. During the protests, peopel that commited crimes were not prosecuted. After the protests Deblasio emptied the Jails. They also stopped arresting people for turnstyle jumping, and other small crimes. People brazenly go into stores and shoplift. This was not the case before Floyd. Then Bail Reform put dangerous folks right back on the streets. This is not rocket science and anyone that lives here, including liberals know it is an issue. Mayor Adams, a black Democrat literally called it the "Twilight Zone" yesterday. He can not believe people are denying crime is a major issue because no one is helping him address it....The DAs are 100% at fault. People will commit crime if there is no threat of punishment. That is clear as night and day.

 

[BForrester]

As far as utopias... Why are suburbs usually the far safer and more desirable places to live?

lol.... We can start with crime rates to start and then we'll comparing voting trends between the City Centers and the outlying Suburbs.

For example... Here in the Houston Metro (Harris Country)

There's Houston Metro inside the loop...

There's the major surrounding towns... League City, Missouri City, Pearland, Cypress, Spring, etc... Want to compare them?

That's right, you don't, because then you'll have to face reality.

Um...because there's a lot less poverty in the suburbs?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Um...because there's a lot less poverty in the suburbs?

Good series here (link goes to a summary and then links to the full series):

https://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme

To summarize the summary (though I strongly recommend the whole thing if you're into the issue): Growth in new developments are financed through three mechanisms (private and public debt, transfer payments between gov'ts, and transportation funding). The spending benefits the region, which assumes longer-term obligations. Suburbs have gotten the benefits of the new funding but have not raised nearly enough raise revenue per unit of liability to cover the costs. So the impact is a positive transfer to the residents of the new developments that collapses over time--exactly like a Ponzi scheme.

Another reason why gov'ts should allow density where markets call for it (which is the best thing we can possibly do on a national level to promote economic growth and raise living standards).

 

[PhitePhan]

Not sure if serious.

This is a great example of how destructive misinformation can be… after years of investigation Trump was not charged with anything, yet here you are basically claiming he’s backed by Putin.

SMH.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Crime soiked in my city after the Protest and Bail reform laws. Can not deny that. During the protests, peopel that commited crimes were not prosecuted. After the protests Deblasio emptied the Jails. They also stopped arresting people for turnstyle jumping, and other small crimes. People brazenly go into stores and shoplift. This was not the case before Floyd. Then Bail Reform put dangerous folks right back on the streets. This is not rocket science and anyone that lives here, including liberals know it is an issue. Mayor Adams, a black Democrat literally called it the "Twilight Zone" yesterday. He can not believe people are denying crime is a major issue because no one is helping him address it....The DAs are 100% at fault. People will commit crime if there is no threat of punishment. That is clear as night and day.

Crime spiked across the country, from the most urban, blue counties to the most rural, red ones. In fact I think medium sized cities saw the largest spike in crime.

That doesn't mean that local laws and policy changes are completely unrelated or that they can't exacerbate existing drivers of crime but I think its fair to say that given the nationwide spike, especially in less populated areas, that its clearly not due solely or even primarily to those policy changes.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I hope @idrankyourbeer is OK, he’s late for work today…

its a holiday today genecope. not everybody is a slave to their jobs.

you got any big plans for the day? you gonna do some home renovations on that mobile shipping container of yours? perhaps go looking for that big red wave? if you look hard enough, perhaps you might even find some of that evidence of election fraud.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Crime spiked across the country, from the most urban, blue counties to the most rural, red ones. In fact I think medium sized cities saw the largest spike in crime.

That doesn't mean that local laws and policy changes are completely unrelated or that they can't exacerbate existing drivers of crime but I think its fair to say that given the nationwide spike, especially in less populated areas, that its clearly not due solely or even primarily to those policy changes.

Generally, if you're trying to explain some kind of national trend, you want to know the size of the trend, you want to know where it happened, if you're thinking of attributing to some policy change, you want to look at the timing of the change taking effect and of the trend change and ideally compare places that made the change to places that didn't. And that's just to get started. But we've already seen in this thread, people get enraged about just the first step of looking at the data rather than just assuming that Fox's narrative is correct (even got accused of trolling for that!). But if you're thinking like a hack, it's just, "Durr, the other party must have caused it because they think crime/slow counting/whatever is good for them and they're super evil."

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Montana shamed as residents vote ‘No’ on measure to protect babies after they’re born: ‘Unimaginable’

Pro-life activist Abby Johnson tweeted, 'They’re basically saying they want the babies left out to die'

Conservatives on Twitter tore into Montana residents after they voted "No" on a Republican-backed referendum to ensure medical care for babies delivered alive at any point in pregnancy, including those delivered after botched abortions.

On election day, Montana voters were given the option to affirm or deny Legislative Referendum 131 being signed into law. With nearly all the votes in as of Thursday afternoon, The Associated Press called the race.

With 95% of the vote in, 52.4% of Montana resident voted "No" on the referendum, as opposed to 47.6% who voted "Yes."

If residents had voted "Yes," the referendum would have enacted a law guaranteeing any infant born alive at any stage of pregnancy protections as a "legal person" and would impose criminal penalties on any health care worker that doesn’t provide adequate medical care to these babies.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/monta...protect-babies-after-theyre-born-unimaginable

this is a bright red state too.

conservatives: the self-proclaimed pro-life party that cares about people until the day that they are born into this world.