Elections 2022 Mid-term Elections PBP

[KnightTemplar]

All these republicans turning on Trump, what an ungrateful bunch. Sad.

Gratitude has a very short shelf-life in politics. Yes, Trump delivered an incredible victory in 2016, against all the odds. Since then he's been a complete liability, stumbling from one loss to another like Sleepy Joe trying to walk up the steps of Air Force One.

This was the last straw. A Red Wave that didn't amount to a bucket of warm piss. Sure, it looks like they might grind out a win in the House, but the Senate will almost certainly become solid Blue. They won't even need Harris' casting vote.

Trump is the past. DeSantis is the future of the Republican Party, and everyone except Trump himself knows it.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

I want Trump to bow out and hand it over to Ron, but we're not going back to normal again. The left have their media machine already set, they will just direct their TDS to Ron and the clown show continues.

 

[skold]

I want Trump to bow out and hand it over to Ron, but we're not going back to normal again. The left have their media machine already set, they will just direct their TDS to Ron and the clown show continues.

Maybe, just maybe.. the people don't want your batshit christian ethno nationalism?

Have you considered growing out of being edgy memelord gamergate 4channer and maybe rejoining society?

 

[Terry Noonan]

Who..?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

regarding that 85 year old dead guy who won his seat in pennsylvania and why he was even allowed to be elected, as it turns out in pennsylvania the parties cannot change their candidates after the ballots go out, at least not for this particular type of seat. so when a candidate for legislation becomes deceased between that day and the election, their names will still remain on the ballot, and their votes will still be accepted, but they have to resolve it after the election through another public election

in the case for the deceased tony deluca, he died on october 9th, but the ballots were finalized and sent out in late september, so the democrats had to run their dead guy in the election. they werent lawfully allowed to change their candidate, even if they wanted to.

in the case of the pennsylvania lawmaker dying, theyre gonna hold a special election to replace that seat. when exactly that will occur is unclear, but at least it will go back to the public in a democratic process to determine who gets to fill that seat. thats how its going to work in pennsylvania for what they do when a dead guy runs for legislative office and wins, or the lawmaker dies while still in office.

i fully support that kind of measure. for certain seats in certain states, the governor or state legislators can fill empty seats, and it could really create a conflict of interest if another legislator wins a seat and the other members of the legislative assembly can just replace them at will. say that a group of conservative legislators arent happy that a democrat legislator won his seat, they could just have that dude murdered or vote him out or whatever and then vote to appoint that other conservative legislator to fill his seat so the public election wouldnt have meant shit and it would be sham elections just like in russia and china and shit. at least when a legislator dies it will go back to the general public for a vote, rather than a group of state lawmakers appointing who gets to have that seat right beside them, which really isnt democratic at all.

i didnt know exactly how it works when a legislator kicks the bucket but i had to look a little further into it because i just thought the whole thing about a dead guy winning office for the 3rd election year in a row was hilarious. we got dead people voting and dead people winning.

 

[jimjamjammer]

How is there still counting going on? Brutal!

 

[Deorum]

I voted for lake in person in maricopa county. My ballot was placed in a box. Turn out was insane all day at the three centers near my home. I can say with full confidence if kari lake does not win many people will never vote again. Katie hobbs didnt even campaign and ran the election in 2020, ive never met a person in real life who supports her. If she wins im done with voting and people can come get me when its time for revolution.

Arizona is quite clearly on the verge of shifting full-blown blue, demographic destiny is coming home to roost. Going into this cycle, Dems already held both US Senate seats and 5/9 in the US House of Representatives. In the state legislature, Republicans are clinging to single seat majorities in both chambers. If Lake is defeated and Hobbs becomes governor, it's lights out and over with. It'll also go from arguably the most pro-2A state in the entire nation to California Compliant with all of those rights stripped. They are going to cuck law abiding citizens hard and that is fucking surreal, it's absolutely untenable. I can only hope it can be held off until I'm back home in NoDak.

i have to think, perhaps right now dr oz is wondering if he might have won the election without trump's endorsement? and herschel is probably thinking the same thing, hey maybe i could have done better if it wasnt for trump and perhaps it might not be going to a runoff?

i mean shit, the last time donald trump really went out of his way to campaign for someone running against the democrats in any kind of prominant race, it was for loeffler and perdue. and we all seen what happened there. he took over their campaign, made it all about himself and his stolen election bullshit, and it pissed off enough people in the state to turn out and vote, and as a result they not only lost their elections by a much bigger margin, but it cost the republicans the senate majority

and after seeing whats going on in the midterms, i bet theres alot of republicans right now who just want to distance themself from trump, because right now its looking like he's inspiring a fuck tonne of people to turn out and vote, and most of the votes tend to be from democrats going against him and whoever he's backing.

if he would just fuck off to fuck offedy land and his supporters would still stick around and vote red until they are dead, i'm sure the republican party would love nothing more right now. they need his voters. they dont need donald trump.

Almost all of the main MAGA candidates Trump endorsed either got shitcanned or severely underperformed. I do believe Kari Lake can still pull off the AZ gubernatorial race though. She has a different level of charisma from the other goofs, Lake has also been in the (local) public eye for over 20 years and is very well liked as a former Phoenix news anchor for a FOX affiliate station. She never needed Trump's endorsement to be competitive, likely got an even bigger boost from DeSantis flying into Arizona to campaign for her.

This was the last straw. A Red Wave that didn't amount to a bucket of warm piss. Sure, it looks like they might grind out a win in the House, but the Senate will almost certainly become solid Blue. They won't even need Harris' casting vote. Trump is the past. DeSantis is the future of the Republican Party, and everyone except Trump himself knows it.

I want Trump to bow out and hand it over to Ron, but we're not going back to normal again. The left have their media machine already set, they will just direct their TDS to Ron and the clown show continues.

The problem is that if Trump is shoved aside in the primary, he will run independent and burn any GOP hopes of retaking the White House to the ground. Biden's present abysmal approval rating would need to be halved, the economy and inflation would need to be twice as bad as they are now for DeSantis to overcome that in a national election with DJT and his cultist followers pulling votes away.

Trump ultimately doesn't give a single fuck about the well being of the Republican party (nor the country for that matter), he is 100% entirely about himself and feeding his ego. Republicans desperately need this dude dead, in prison or at the very least rendered ineligible to run. He is massive fucking problem at this juncture, an absolute albatross around the neck.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Almost all of the main MAGA candidates Trump endorsed either got shitcanned or severely underperformed. I do believe Kari Lake can still pull off the AZ gubernatorial race though. She has a different level of charisma from the other goofs, Lake has also been in the (local) public eye for over 20 years and is very well liked as a former Phoenix news anchor for a FOX affiliate station. She never needed Trump's endorsement to be competitive, likely got an even bigger boost from DeSantis flying into Arizona to campaign for her.

i think kari lake would have stood a better chance if she didnt go full maga and base her campaign off of playing the election denial game. she's been blowing her fraud whistle for months. i dont know how its supposed to inspire your base to trust the election system and get out and vote, but thats what theyre doing. i guess because donald trump used it as his catch-all excuse to save face after getting destroyed in the election, and he didnt seem to lose a whole lot of support from his base afterwards, and now i guess his fanatics want to run off that too. but most people who arent firmly attached to donald trumps dick can see that type of election denial conspiracy bullshit for what it is and it turns alot of people off, and its dangerous for democracy as well.

if anything it seems like just more of a maga virtue signal that will inspire more democrats to turn up just to vote against that type of candidate running on that kind of platform. i think kari lake could be doing better if she didnt try to play that game, and based her campaign more around having people trusting her and the government and have faith in them being able to help them with their daily issues instead of doing the whole maga virtue signalling against not trusting elections, the government, and the system, and trying to rile people up and convince them that everybody else in the country who has different opinions than you are all your sworn enemies and they must all be destroyed. that kind of toxic shit just doesnt appeal to the mass and people know better.

thats just my take on it. i dont really see her winning. the same thing that is happening in the senate race is happening to her right now too. the bulk of the remaining votes are all in deep blue areas, and katie hobbs looks like shes about to pull far away with this.

yeah she used to be a respectable person with some common decency and dignity, but now she's latched onto donald trump and his ideology, and that kind of shit seems to be fizzling out fast. personally i dont really like her at all and she seems a little too crazy for me. i would hate to be married to her anyways.

 

[Deorum]

i think kari lake would have stood a better chance if she didnt go full maga and base her campaign off of playing the election denial game. she's been blowing her fraud whistle for months. i dont know how its supposed to inspire your base to trust the election system and get out and vote, but thats what theyre doing. i guess because donald trump used it as his catch-all excuse to save face after getting destroyed in the election, and he didnt seem to lose a whole lot of support from his base afterwards, and now i guess his fanatics want to run off that too. but most people who arent firmly attached to donald trumps dick can see that type of election denial conspiracy bullshit for what it is and it turns alot of people off, and its dangerous for democracy as well.

if anything it seems like just more of a maga virtue signal that will inspire more democrats to turn up just to vote against that type of candidate running on that kind of platform. i think kari lake could be doing better if she didnt try to play that game, and based her campaign more around having people trusting her and the government and have faith in them being able to help them with their daily issues instead of doing the whole maga virtue signalling against not trusting elections, the government, and the system, and trying to rile people up and convince them that everybody else in the country who has different opinions than you are all your sworn enemies and they must all be destroyed. that kind of toxic shit just doesnt appeal to the mass and people know better.

thats just my take on it. i dont really see her winning. the same thing that is happening in the senate race is happening to her right now too. the bulk of the remaining votes are all in deep blue areas, and katie hobbs looks like shes about to pull far away with this.

yeah she used to be a respectable person with some common decency and dignity, but now she's latched onto donald trump and his ideology, and that kind of shit seems to be fizzling out fast. personally i dont really like her at all and she seems a little too crazy for me. i would hate to be married to her anyways.

This analysis really couldn't be more correct, it's been mad cringe each and every time that she's trumpeted stolen election rhetoric. I'm kind of curious to see what she'd be like if and when she actually secures office. There are other parts of her candidacy steez that are just pure laughable grift but play well to the base, i.e. anti-LGBT shit. In fact, this broad has been frequenting gay bars for decades and even had drag queens over to perform at her house.

 

[Deorum]

Looked like it was all over last night but right before going to bed I read that post from @Deorum saying not to count chickens. Doesn't matter what the subject is, when he weighs in, I listen.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

This analysis really couldn't be more correct, it's been mad cringe each and every time that she's trumpeted stolen election rhetoric. I'm kind of curious to see what she'd be like if and when she actually secures office. There are other parts of her candidacy steez that are just pure laughable grift but play well to the base, i.e. anti-LGBT shit. In fact, this broad has been frequenting gay bars for decades and even had drag queens over to perform at her house.

i dont see her winning

the only reason why kari lake even caught up is because of the surge of in-person votes. but now its all starting to fall away from her, and now its up to maricopa county, tucson, and flagstaff to determine the outcome of this race too. we all know what happened when the mail in votes first started to be counted. kari lake was down over 18%. now almost all thats left is the mail in votes in those denser more urban areas where the bulk of the citizens live, and they are all predominantly blue.

its basically the same story with her as it is with the senate, the secretary of state, and the attorney general's elections too. the republicans almost caught up when the in person voting came in and but basically all thats left to look at is maricopa, pima, and cocinio county. there's about 9000 votes left in apache county too, and democrats are killing it in all races over there too, but the rest of the votes are insignificant

its really not looking at all in her favor, as well as for the other 3 republicans in their respective elections and at this point i've almost seen enough in all of these races. the republicans gained one extra house seat in arizona, but right now its almost certain that they will lose everything else. they are no doubt going to call the senate for mark kelly later on in the day, and then theyll call the elections for hobbs and the other 2 democrats shortly afterwards once a dump from maricopa county comes in. right now the republicans have a chance on paper and thats why the races havent yet been called, but looking at where the rest of the votes are coming from, theres just no way theyre going to catch up. i could be wrong, but i' just dont see the numbers there for kari lake and the rest of the republicans.

the story in nevada right now is much more difficult for the democrats than in arizona. its almost guaranteed for the democrats in arizona. in nevada they are praying that the rest of the mail in ballots in vegas and reno will be enough to fend off whats going on virtually everywhere else in the state.

 

[AZ103]

when you cant accept the results of an election, why not just reject democracy while at the same time calling everybody else the fascists?

what the hell is wrong with people?

Wtf is this post lmao did i take a time machine back to when trump won? Pot meet kettle.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Wtf is this post lmao did i take a time machine back to when trump won? Pot meet kettle.

sorry i must have missed that part when hillary conceded the next day and only one of her fans was screaming to the sky.

good effort though

 

[AZ103]

sorry i must have missed that part when hillary conceded the next day

good effort though.

Oh well as long as you say you concede i guess you can continually rile up your base and persecute the man in court for the duration of his presidency and it doesnt count. You should really stfu she didnt just claim the election was stolen and call trump facsist she cooked documents and wasted tax payer documents. But as long as a democrat says the words its all good right? I mean thats how you guys operate. Thats why obama is the greatest to you tards because he was the best speaker. He lied to your face while bending over for the banks and went all BLM after brining slavery back to Libya. But he said! His foreign policy was good and he brought the economy back so youre free to beleive it dont worry.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Oh well as long as you say you concede i guess you can continually rile up your base and persecute the man in court for the duration of his presidency and it doesnt count. You should really stfu she didnt just claim the election was stolen and call trump facsist she cooked documents and wasted tax payer documents. But as long as a democrat says the words its all good right? I mean thats how you guys operate. Thats why obama is the greatest to you tards because he was the best speaker. He lied to your face while bending over for the banks and went all BLM after brining slavery back to Libya. But he said! His foreign policy was good and he brought the economy back so youre free to beleive it dont worry.

oh hillaries emails. not sure why you had to bring that up, but i forgot its not alright when the democrats mishandle classified documents belonging to the government. remember? lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! but when donnie dearest does it, its no worse than jaywalking. pot meet kettle right?

also after hillary conceded, i didn't see any cops getting beaten up with back the blue flags after that election either and the only people who eventually went to prison after that was all over with were members of trumps inner circle.

i also dont recall hundreds of millions of dollars being grifted from hillary supporters (does she even have any?) after that election in order to try to stop the steal only for crooked hillary to stiff her lawyers and run off with all of the cash., i dont remember any crackhead pillow pushers trying to overturn that election. i dont recall hillary trying to throw millions of peoples votes away in the name of democracy or sending any fake electors to washington all while claiming it was the other side who was trying to disenfranchise voters and destroy democracy all while labelling themselves as patriots, and i dont recall any democrats basing their 2020 election campaigns off of election fraud fantasies and fairy tales just to try to dismiss hillary losing, or have a loaded catch-all excuse just to try to save face just in case they lose their own elections.

how many of those candidates were trying to convince their fanbase to not trust the results of the election or undermine their faith in the entire election system, just because hillary lost to the second worst presidential candidate in history? did they call up any secretary of states offices and threaten the secretary of state to print them off the amount of votes they needed to win that state? did any of them put up a gallows outside of the capitol building and storm into the capitol shouting to hang their vice president?

but really its just democrats who are the fascists and want to flush democracy down the shitter and have a dictator they like installed as their authoritarian ruler by hook or by crook all because they are mad that their guy couldnt win an election by votes. its totally not projection at all!

as for all the rest of your chuddy little obama bullshit and your perpetual victimhood, i aint gonna bother going into any of that, but good effort once again though. i still award you no points. trump 2024! by hook or by crook, because you know he aint gonna win it by votes!

 

[PEB]

Just heard on the news the Democrats look on course to win back the Senate and expand their majority. The other is things are looking up for Democrats to win back the house or come close to like really close apparently. It may not be decided till next week apparently.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

the tucson sentinal has called the arizona senate race for mark kelly. the major news outlets are playing it safe and holding off until later before they call it. but its fairly safe to say that the democrats won that race. i already knew it was over when the "i've seen enough" guy had told us that he had seen enough in that race.

well, off to nevada now.

 

[BForrester]

Katie Hobbs deserves to lose just based on this failure.

Arizona has always been like this. 2014 and 2018 mid-term elections weren't called until December (!) and mid November, respectively.

 

[PEB]

the tucson sentinal has called the arizona senate race for mark kelly. the major news outlets are playing it safe and holding off until later before they call it. but its fairly safe to say that the democrats won that race. i already knew it was over when the "i've seen enough" guy had told us that he had seen enough in that race.

well, off to nevada now.

I'm not from that State but I respect Mark and his family and wife for the fact they stay together through all of this stuff. Donated to his campaign around 200 bucks over the last year.

 

[Sano]

Gratitude has a very short shelf-life in politics. Yes, Trump delivered an incredible victory in 2016, against all the odds. Since then he's been a complete liability, stumbling from one loss to another like Sleepy Joe trying to walk up the steps of Air Force One.

This was the last straw. A Red Wave that didn't amount to a bucket of warm piss. Sure, it looks like they might grind out a win in the House, but the Senate will almost certainly become solid Blue. They won't even need Harris' casting vote.

Trump is the past. DeSantis is the future of the Republican Party, and everyone except Trump himself knows it.

I was being tongue in cheek, but I do think the hypocrisy is worth pointing out. Just a few days ago, Trump was kingmaker and a lot of people thought a red wave would come on the basis on his endorsement. As soon as he loses, they pretend like they never wanted him.

Teflon don has certainly been chipped away at and he does finally start to appear vulnerable, but I think you're underestimating the fervor of his base. If Trump goes against Desanctemonious in a head to head, he still has a lot of support. In a primary, Trump could win if he controls the narrative, in the generel Desantis has greater appeal for sure.

Trump going head to head with Desantis, if that happens, will be a sight to behold no matter the outcome. The GOP would back Desantis but they might regret that. Trump would rather burn it all to the ground than lose face. The smartest bet would be for Desantis and the GOP to make some kind of deal with him, or, they need to go all in and bury him, but that would probably alienate his base.