Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread: The Announcements

[Trotsky]

So Washington Post released their Power Rankings for Democratic candidates and.....it's puzzling:

1. Kamala D. Harris —
2. Amy Klobuchar UP 5
3. Joe Biden DOWN 1
4. Sherrod Brown —
5. Cory Booker UP 3
6. Elizabeth Warren DOWN 3
7. Beto O’Rourke DOWN 2
8. Bernie Sanders DOWN 2
9. Kirsten Gillibrand —
10. Michael Bloomberg —
11. Howard Schultz —
12. John Hickenlooper —
13. Oprah Winfrey UP 2
14. Julián Castro DOWN 1
15. Stacey Abrams ADDS TO RANKING
​

If I'm going on likelihood to win, my rankings would be more like:

1. Joe Biden
2. Kamala Harris
3. Bernie Sanders
4. Elizabeth Warren
5. Cory Booker
6. Beto O'Rourke
7. Sherrod Brown
8. Amy Klobuchar
9. Julian Castro
10. Kirsten Gillibrand
[the rest]

 

[Lead]

So Washington Post released their Power Rankings for Democratic candidates and.....it's puzzling:

1. Kamala D. Harris —
2. Amy Klobuchar UP 5
3. Joe Biden DOWN 1
4. Sherrod Brown —
5. Cory Booker UP 3
6. Elizabeth Warren DOWN 3
7. Beto O’Rourke DOWN 2
8. Bernie Sanders DOWN 2
9. Kirsten Gillibrand —
10. Michael Bloomberg —
11. Howard Schultz —
12. John Hickenlooper —
13. Oprah Winfrey UP 2
14. Julián Castro DOWN 1
15. Stacey Abrams ADDS TO RANKING
​

If I'm going on likelihood to win, my rankings would be more like:

1. Joe Biden
2. Kamala Harris
3. Bernie Sanders
4. Elizabeth Warren
5. Cory Booker
6. Beto O'Rourke
7. Sherrod Brown
8. Amy Klobuchar
9. Julian Castro
10. Kirsten Gillibrand
[the rest]

I’d agree with that list aside from saying Beto is a wild card and difficult to rank.

 

[Problem Child]

Someone is laying killer opp research- knocking Klobuchar, Warren down. I bet its Ole Joe.

 

[Trotsky]

Someone is laying killer opp research- knocking Klobuchar, Warren down. I bet its Ole Joe.

I do see it primarily as a three-person race between Biden, Harris, and Sanders, with the likelihood of winning being in that order.

Biden and Harris have the same politics as far as I can tell and will draw the same support as well as similar backlash from the left-wing of the party. But Biden will be able to withstand it much more effectively because of how long he's been in the game.

 

[grizzard2bid]

I’M fucking pregaming the Bernie announcement hard right now!!

Big. Dick. Bern. 2020.

BIG.

Except the part where he got cucked by two chubby teens on stage, then cucked away his support to Hillary who screwed him over.I knew the moment he got him microphone taken away on that stage, he's too weak to be a leader of a country.

 

[Lead]

'This is the fight of our lives,' Elizabeth Warren says as she formally launches her 2020 presidential bid
CNBC

Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren formally launched her presidential campaign on Saturday at a rally in her home state of Massachusetts, marking the final step in a process that had been underway for months.

Warren made little secret for years of the fact that she was considering a White House bid, and the former Harvard Law School professor has been considered a top contender among Democrats ever since she was first elected to the Senate in 2012.

 

[Trotsky]

Except the part where he got cucked by two chubby teens on stage, then cucked away his support to Hillary who screwed him over.I knew the moment he got him microphone taken away on that stage, he's too weak to be a leader of a country.

@Lead can we restrict this thread to adults?

 

[Fawlty]

So Washington Post released their Power Rankings for Democratic candidates and.....it's puzzling:

1. Kamala D. Harris —
2. Amy Klobuchar UP 5
3. Joe Biden DOWN 1
4. Sherrod Brown —
5. Cory Booker UP 3
6. Elizabeth Warren DOWN 3
7. Beto O’Rourke DOWN 2
8. Bernie Sanders DOWN 2
9. Kirsten Gillibrand —
10. Michael Bloomberg —
11. Howard Schultz —
12. John Hickenlooper —
13. Oprah Winfrey UP 2
14. Julián Castro DOWN 1
15. Stacey Abrams ADDS TO RANKING
​

If I'm going on likelihood to win, my rankings would be more like:

1. Joe Biden
2. Kamala Harris
3. Bernie Sanders
4. Elizabeth Warren
5. Cory Booker
6. Beto O'Rourke
7. Sherrod Brown
8. Amy Klobuchar
9. Julian Castro
10. Kirsten Gillibrand
[the rest]

I'm surprised that Sherrod is unchanged. His Medicare at 55 sets him apart from the UHC message and won't play well in the primary. I think your top 5 looks right, maybe swapping Warren and Booker but it's close.

 

[xcvbn]

So Washington Post released their Power Rankings for Democratic candidates and.....it's puzzling:

1. Kamala D. Harris —
2. Amy Klobuchar UP 5
3. Joe Biden DOWN 1
4. Sherrod Brown —
5. Cory Booker UP 3
6. Elizabeth Warren DOWN 3
7. Beto O’Rourke DOWN 2
8. Bernie Sanders DOWN 2
9. Kirsten Gillibrand —
10. Michael Bloomberg —
11. Howard Schultz —
12. John Hickenlooper —
13. Oprah Winfrey UP 2
14. Julián Castro DOWN 1
15. Stacey Abrams ADDS TO RANKING
​

If I'm going on likelihood to win, my rankings would be more like:

1. Joe Biden
2. Kamala Harris
3. Bernie Sanders
4. Elizabeth Warren
5. Cory Booker
6. Beto O'Rourke
7. Sherrod Brown
8. Amy Klobuchar
9. Julian Castro
10. Kirsten Gillibrand
[the rest]

Weird. It's almost like their list has people(Oprah, Abrams) with little to no speculation to run but fails to have one of the few already confirmed(Tulsi).

More 2016 media blackouts means Trump wins again.

 

[Lead]

Inside the Big Race for Small Democratic Dollars in 2020
New York Times

Number of Online Donors, by Candidate
The estimated number of donors who have given to politicians through ActBlue, the Democratic fund-raising platform, since 2012.
Bernie Sanders 2.1 million
Beto O'Rourke 743,000
Elizabeth Warren 343,000
Kirsten Gillibrand 272,000
Kamala Harris 239,000
Sherrod Brown 114,000
Jeff Merkley 105,000
Cory Booker 56,000
Tulsi Gabbard 42,000
Amy Klobuchar 38,000
John Delaney 1,000
Julián Castro 896
Note: The list includes candidates or potential candidates who have run for federal office and received contributions through ActBlue by Dec. 31, 2018.

 

[grizzard2bid]

@Lead can we restrict this thread to adults?

I'm sorry that you managed to get offended, comrade, but censorship isn't the solution.

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm sorry that you managed to get offended, comrade, but censorship isn't the solution.

There is no such thing as censorship on a private web forum.

 

[Trotsky]

I'm surprised that Sherrod is unchanged. His Medicare at 55 sets him apart from the UHC message and won't play well in the primary. I think your top 5 looks right, maybe swapping Warren and Booker but it's close.

I am frequently dumbfounded by WashPo's politics coverage/opinions. I've always been a fan of Sherrod, but 95% of Americans don't even know who he is, and he's at best the third most popular politician in his camp (that camp being the left wing of the party). How he is ahead of Sanders and Warren is anyone'e guess.

They should stick to investigative reporting. Because their analysis is shiiiiit.

Weird. It's almost like their list has people(Oprah, Abrams) with little to no speculation to run but fails to have one of the few already confirmed(Tulsi).

More 2016 media blackouts means Trump wins again.

Shit, I actually didn't even think of Tulsi. That is a pretty glaring omission. Gabbard absolutely has a better chance than any of the billionaires.

I'm sorry that you managed to get offended, comrade, but censorship isn't the solution.

Not offended. Just annoyed. If you want to talk about cucks and cucking and how selfish absolutist sabotage of one's own country is superior to acting in the country and people's best interest, go to or make a Republican primary thread.

 

[Problem Child]

I do see it primarily as a three-person race between Biden, Harris, and Sanders, with the likelihood of winning being in that order.

Biden and Harris have the same politics as far as I can tell and will draw the same support as well as similar backlash from the left-wing of the party. But Biden will be able to withstand it much more effectively because of how long he's been in the game.

I agree with you. Not clear how the establishment leans in terms of Harris vs Biden.

 

[Lead]

Weird. It's almost like their list has people(Oprah, Abrams) with little to no speculation to run but fails to have one of the few already confirmed(Tulsi).

More 2016 media blackouts means Trump wins again.

I just tried googling Tulsi for a her campaign announcement articles and this is what shows up on google:
Tulsi Gabbard: White nationalists and Russian propaganda machine throw support behind 2020 candidate (Independent)
Tulsi Gabbard rejects former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke’s 2020 endorsement (Roll Call)
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Launches 2020 Presidential Campaign in Hawaii (PR Newswire)
Tulsi Gabbard Claims Syria's Assad Is Not an 'Enemy' of the U.S. (Haaretz)
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard: Assad Is Not Our Enemy Becuase He Doesn't Pose A Direct Threat To The U.S. (Real Clear Politics)
Days after launching presidential campaign, negative publicity has Gabbard in ‘weak position’ (Hawaii News Now)
Neal Milner: Gabbard Lost Her Political Acumen At Just The Wrong Time (Honolulu Civil Beat)

So out of that list, the only one pointing out her announcement is PRNewswire, which is a site you pay to post articles on. Her campaign posted the article themselves. Everything else is negative publicity, including local news organizations. It's hard to say if the WaPo list is wrong but you also could say that them avoiding listing her completely may also be saying something as well.

 

[grizzard2bid]

There is no such thing as censorship on a private web forum.

Yet @Trotsky is calling for censorship because I insulted Bernie, who is by most standards a limp-wristed politician. He showed no spine standing up to SJW faction of his party, then he got stonewalled by Hillary and DNC, yet got in line for the time to support her for general election(not that it helped).

Bernie is a weak politician and his ideas are still not mainstream. As of right now, there are no apparent leaders, just many potential dark horses. Frankly, the outlook is looking bleak in general because democrats have no concrete agenda or core message.

 

[Trotsky]

Yet @Trotsky is calling for censorship because I insulted Bernie, who is by most standards a limp-wristed politician. He showed no spine standing up to SJW faction of his party, then he got stonewalled by Hillary and DNC, yet got in line for the time to support her for general election(not that it helped).

Bernie is a weak politician and his ideas are still not mainstream. As of right now, there are no apparent leaders, just many potential dark horses. Frankly, the outlook is looking bleak in general because democrats have no concrete agenda or core message.

I have no problem with you insulting anyone or calling anyone weak or lame or pussified or cucked or whatever nonsense goes through your head when adults behave in adult ways. I'd just like to have some places here insulated from childish shit flinging by nincompoops.

 

[Last Samurai]

Amy Klobuchar to make announcement regarding 2020 plans Sunday
CBS News

I'm calling it now - she will win

Harris and Warren killed their chances by supporting the Green New Deal

and Tulci Gabbard will have a hard time explaining why she supports Assad

Biden and Bernie are too old

 

[Rational Poster]

Yet @Trotsky is calling for censorship because I insulted Bernie, who is by most standards a limp-wristed politician. He showed no spine standing up to SJW faction of his party, then he got stonewalled by Hillary and DNC, yet got in line for the time to support her for general election(not that it helped).

Bernie is a weak politician and his ideas are still not mainstream. As of right now, there are no apparent leaders, just many potential dark horses. Frankly, the outlook is looking bleak in general because democrats have no concrete agenda or core message.

He's not calling for censorship on a private forum. It doesn't exist.

He's asking to get you removed from the thread for being an idiot. That's different.

 

[Lead]

2020 Dems walk fine line with support for ‘Medicare for all’
The Hill

Democratic presidential contenders face a dilemma on how far to go in championing “Medicare for all.”

Stopping short of Sen. Bernie Sanders’s fully government-run system risks alienating progressives, but embracing the Vermont Independent’s bill opens up lines of attack around eliminating the private insurance coverage most people already have.

White House candidates have responded with a mix of competing answers when asked how they would tackle health care.