Elections 2018 Riksdag (Sweden)

[abiG.2]

It's interesting that they feel emboldened to take to the streets though.
National Action hasn't done that since the '90s.

I don't think they have had to deal with this massive influx of immigrants that have so clearly, already effected their way of life.

 

[Ruprecht]

I don't think they have had to deal with this massive influx of immigrants that have so clearly, already effected their way of life.

Funny, that's exactly what National Action said in the '80s- '90s about the "asian invasion".
Since none of what they said came to pass, obviously they had to rebrand for the "Muslim threat".

Of course they are just trying to cash in on the current political environment to mainstream their views.
Same reason "One Nation" has made a comeback here and groups like United Patriots Front, True Blue Crew and Australian Defence League have formed.
Not to mention these groups constantly falling apart due to squabbles over their leadership and hierarchy of hate (and legal trouble).
Strange that "Soldiers of Odin" would try to distance themselves from their neo-nazi origins and still put the 14 words in their "Protected Area" logo (although admittedly they substituted "white" with "our"... a cunning ploy).

 

[goldennirvana]

Maybe I understand something wrong, but Turkey and Indonesia is not Islamic, they are secular countries.

lol they're still Muslim countries, and have you not been paying attention to what's happening in Turkey? Secularism is hanging on by a thread.

 

[abiG.2]

Funny, that's exactly what National Action said in the '80s- '90s about the "asian invasion".
Since none of what they said came to pass, obviously they had to rebrand for the "Muslim threat".

Of course they are just trying to cash in on the current political environment to mainstream their views.
Same reason "One Nation" has made a comeback here and groups like United Patriots Front, True Blue Crew and Australian Defence League have formed.
Not to mention these groups constantly falling apart due to squabbles over their leadership and hierarchy of hate (and legal trouble).
Strange that "Soldiers of Odin" would try to distance themselves from their neo-nazi origins and still put the 14 words in their "Protected Area" logo (although admittedly they substituted "white" with "our"... a cunning ploy).

Right, but now the invasion has come and its effects are horrible, it has been the exact opposite of what was promised.

And lol @ "cunning ploy."

 

[Ruprecht]

Right, but now the invasion has come and its effects are horrible, it has been the exact opposite of what was promised.

And lol @ "cunning ploy."

The Swedish immigration policy really has no relation to the Australian situation though. We've never had ratios of refugees anywhere near that high, and our general immigration policy is extremely restrictive. The numbers have also been reduced since peaking under Rudd.
The local formation of these groups is much like the groups in the US using the European migrant crisis to justify their own politics.
It's bullshit.

 

[abiG.2]

The Swedish immigration policy really has no relation to the Australian situation though. We've never had ratios of refugees anywhere near that high, and our general immigration policy is extremely restrictive. The numbers have also been reduced since peaking under Rudd.
The local formation of these groups is much like the groups in the US using the European migrant crisis to justify their own politics.
Bullshit.

How is it 'Bullshit" if you admit to a "European migrant crisis?"

 

[Ruprecht]

How is it 'Bullshit" if you admit to a "European migrant crisis?"

The migrant crisis was the sheer numbers.
That just doesn't apply in Australia. I think Son Of Jamin also posted that refugees never become economic contributors in Sweden. Again, that's not the case in Australia (the studies show net economic benefit after 12 years on average).
Yet local groups will use identical statements and criticism to those in Europe, which just shows it has nothing to do with the actual policy or conditions.
Globalised criticism of vastly different situations and policy is just demagoguery.

 

[abiG.2]

The migrant crisis was the sheer numbers.
That just doesn't apply in Australia. I think Son Of Jamin also posted that refugees never become economic contributors in Sweden. Again, that's not the case in Australia (the studies show net economic benefit after 12 years on average).
Yet local groups will use identical statements and criticism to those in Europe, which just shows it has nothing to do with the actual policy or conditions.
Globalised criticism of vastly different situations and policy is just demagoguery.

The crisis is NOT just the sheer numbers. What about children/adults being raped, stabbings, vans driven into crowds of people, let alone what these people see as their culture being destroyed?

I know your trusted media doesn't report on this part of the story too often, but these things are happening. You really can't defend it once you look what has happened there.

 

[Ruprecht]

The crisis is NOT just the sheer numbers. What about children/adults being raped, stabbings, vans driven into crowds of people, let alone what these people see as their culture being destroyed?

I know your trusted media doesn't report on this part of the story too often, but these things are happening. You really can't defend it once you look what has happened there.

Yes, the migration crisis is a story of numbers. Obviously coping with the influx wouldn't be such an issue if it wasn't so large, and it's not a linear effect. Never mind that most of the refugees aren't in Europe anyway.
"My trusted media"... yeah I'm sure the world looks different if you get all your information and ideas from social media, CT sites, ideologues and demagogues.

 

[Goonerview]

Oh Sweden ....

 

[NoDak]

The Golden One speaks. He is voting for the Alternative for Sweden Party (Alternativ för Sverige).

 

[Rusk]

Thank God I live in Norway.

 

[jimmas99]

I don't think they have had to deal with this massive influx of immigrants that have so clearly, already effected their way of life.

It doesnt effect my way of life at all.

And fuck SD

 

[Prokofievian]

I'm not really into meatheads with big muscles. Lean, athletic, Swedish millionaires like Erik Karlsson are my type.

Ha! GAAYYYYYYYY!

....but also understandable. Would.

 

[Ultra O’Dia]

I'm not really into meatheads with big muscles. Lean, athletic, Swedish millionaires like Erik Karlsson are my type.

Should have four Norrises already, and if my assholes name was Norris it would be five.

 

[abiG.2]

The Swedish immigration policy really has no relation to the Australian situation though. We've never had ratios of refugees anywhere near that high

Huh? What about Palestine? How has that worked out for the indigenous people? I am guessing that there is no better example in modern history of how mass immigration affects an indigenous population, let alone a culture that was established for centuries.

Yes, the migration crisis is a story of numbers. Obviously coping with the influx wouldn't be such an issue if it wasn't so large, and it's not a linear effect. Never mind that most of the refugees aren't in Europe anyway.

So? You keep missing the point.

What about children/adults being raped, stabbings, vans driven into crowds of people, let alone what these people see as their culture being destroyed?

"My trusted media"... yeah I'm sure the world looks different if you get all your information and ideas from social media, CT sites, ideologues and demagogues.

These words, these posts that boil down to an ad hominen attack mean nothing.
Hint: That only work on our least critical thinkers.

Hell, the deep state you deny, if they did not invent the term "conspiracy theorist," they sure fired it up to debunk what was already clear to those not too cowardly to think for themselves.

As clear as no magic bullets exist, mass immigration is wrong.

It's funny really, how simple words, "buzz words," can make people so blind.

 

[V Belfort]

Huh? What about Palestine? How has that worked out for the indigenous people? I am guessing that there is no better example in modern history of how mass immigration affects an indigenous population, let alone a culture that was established for centuries.


So? You keep missing the point.

What about children/adults being raped, stabbings, vans driven into crowds of people, let alone what these people see as their culture being destroyed?


These words, these posts that boil down to an ad hominen attack mean nothing.
Hint: That only work on our least critical thinkers.

Hell, the deep state you deny, if they did not invent the term "conspiracy theorist," they sure fired it up to debunk what was already clear to those not too cowardly to think for themselves.

As clear as no magic bullets exist, mass immigration is wrong.

It's funny really, how simple words, "buzz words," can make people so blind.

Kosovo is the best example imo, was there as part of KFOR forces.

 

[Son of Jamin]

That may be so, but that's what they're portrayed as. Maybe they're neo-nazis the same way as Tommy Robinson is. Meaning not at all.

Lets ask @Son of Jamin as due to his background I trust his opinion above others when it comes to this matter.

They may or may not be full-blown neo-nazis but above all, they are made up of mostly less desired elements. They are overrepresented as women abusers, petty criminals and criminals in general. They also supported neo-nazis demonstration for freedom of speech in Tampere, Finland last year.

So I fully support vigilantes since the police can't protect people anymore but Soldiers of Onion is not a group I support.

 

[Prutfis]

Soldiers of Onion is not a group I support.

 

[TheGreatA]

They may or may not be full-blown neo-nazis but above all, they are made up of mostly less desired elements. They are overrepresented as women abusers, petty criminals and criminals in general. They also supported neo-nazis demonstration for freedom of speech in Tampere, Finland last year.

So I fully support vigilantes since the police can't protect people anymore but Soldiers of Onion is not a group I support.

It surprises me that Soldiers of Odin have gotten as much press as they have, considering that they're probably the "least" of the vigilante groups in North Europe, in regards to their activism and membership. From what I recall they had a couple of patrols around 2015-2016 in Finland and then stopped all public activity.

The Nordic Neo-Nazi movement has been involved in a lot more violence, as well as a lot more protests and (usually misguided) vigilante activity, but they're not as well known for some reason, although they seem relatively more threatening and organized, to the point where their organization was banned in Finland (which is generally less reactionary than Sweden).

Maybe it's the name that made them popular. Odin is cool, I guess. Although it's retarded that a Finnish guy hails Odin, considering we were not even Vikings, but whatever. I suppose Soldiers of Väinämöinen or Ukko Ylijumala, wasn't as catchy.