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Elections 2016 Super Saturday to March 14th Primary Thread

Who wins the most delegates in Super Saturday? (Pick one for each party)

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I agree ts, very unlikely he gets the delegates. If rubio or john take their home state i think its a done deal..,and that's basically their soul reason for sticking around. Just to block trump and force the convention and maybe their gop overlords will crown them winner despite the vast majority of Americans not wanting them. It's kinda of sick to want to win that way imo...purposefully taking part in undermining democracy and the will of the people.
 
kahiljabroni said:
I agree ts, very unlikely he gets the delegates. If rubio or john take their home state i think its a done deal..,and that's basically their soul reason for sticking around. Just to block trump and force the convention and maybe their gop overlords will crown them winner despite the vast majority of Americans not wanting them. It's kinda of sick to want to win that way imo...purposefully taking part in undermining democracy and the will of the people.
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The will of 39 percent of the people in a process that isn't government governed by a democratic process.
 
HendoRuaGOAT said:
Regional dominance continues for bernie. Can't wait to see how Michigan plays out. Michigan will tell us so much about how the rust belt will play out, and if bernie is still in this.

Would give my left nut for a breakdown after Michigan of delegates won by votes, not superdelegates, and a statistical prediction that factors in regional trends.
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Problem is, even if Bernie manages to win Michigan, Killary will probably win Mississippi with a 70-30 margin and widen her delegate lead.
At least the south is all but done at this point
 
It wouldn't be mathematically over.

But sort of like a Football game with a score of 61 to 0 in the third quarter... It's probably over.
 
He could win Florida and not win a majority of the delegates, especially when you consider that late deciding voters are not fond of him and projections have been over estimating him lately and it will probably get worse the further we go into the election. He needs to win both Ohio and Florida to truly have a strangle hold on getting a majority of the delegates, and there is a chance he doesn't win either.
 
NelmarksGhost said:
I disagree. Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich will play well up north. Donald won't win the 53.6% he needs. He peaked, and now with the all out attack he will never get back to full strength. Let alone increase his percentages.

After the 15th we will know a lot more, and be able to make more certain predictions. But as it stands my money is on a brokered convention. I say 65%. Not quite a certainty, but enough for this gambler.
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not only that but trump won't win florida
 
I disagree with most of you.

Cruz has no appeal outside of the TV-Preacher audience states, and Rubio has been exposed as a robot.
 
HendoRuaGOAT said:
You could very possibly be right, but I do think trump has a wider path to the nomination than the establishment has to a brokered convention. If trump wins Florida and ohio, which are both winner take all, it is over. I guess we will see if trump has any real ground game. I'm sure he has the advertising side of things down. My question has always been about what kind of ground game he has.
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I heard he rolls at blue belt level, but he's mostly no gi so take that for what it's worth.
 
kahiljabroni said:
Wat?
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If it goes to a brokered convention then Trump will most likely have around 40 percent of the popular vote and delegates. I'm not sure I consider that going against the will of the people. And it's not forced to be a democratic process by the founding fathers or anything like that, it is completely the GOP choice on how they elect a candidate like how the Democrats have some voters with much more weight than others.
 
Byron Carter said:
With Trump performing better in all of them...
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That is absolutely not true. Trump has underperformed polls in most states which isn't the end of the world because he has such a large lead in alot if these polls. But it's pretty evident that late deciding voters are not favorable for Trump and that is hurting him when compared to the polls.
 
Lead Salad said:
I'd say Europe resembles the current state of the party right now with a xenophobic populist. The difference with Europe I would think is they put economic issues to the side so if anything, they focus more on culture identity than the U.S. Version of conservatism. You are right though about the fiscal problem the party had had for years. It's now a party of Reagan instead of Eisenhower and it will be destructive so long as it clings to unaffordable military budgets and an unacceptable that there can be good spending in government for long term investment like infrastructure.

Social issues tend to bother me for both parties. I'm pro gay marriage, anti NSA for privacy, closer to prolife which may be one of the hard points in siding with dems. My biggest problem with the dem party on social issues is I don't think they base anything on broad rights. I wish they would run on a more libertarian platform like people claim they do. I also have a problem with the beginning premise I see sometimes with the dems. I think for regulations, it's always an emotional argument that never considers costs and it's what leaves them out of touch with the people. They don't care if prices rise if they control things. Some politicians split from this. I think this has been somewhere Obama truly ha focused on the people rather than the party with how he embraced the shale gas boom. This was a guy who was saying we needed to get use to Europe level gas prices but when the opportunity came that wasn't necessarily popular with his base to give households more from their paycheck, he took it and accepted it was a decent stepping stone to coal and other energies.

For banking, obviously Bernie is appealing but this is a cross issue topic as Rubio and Fiorina mentioned the same thing this 2016 cycle and Huntmans mentioned it more than once in 2012. You usually see the line by who has been on Washington longer and who hasn't, so less so with party.

If I had to narrow down my priorities, I care about being fiscally conscious, hesitant with infringing on people's rights/ personal lives/ and long term oriented with spending. Neither party is doing a good job at this right now. Just one is running on it and it's starting to fall flat for the BS it is.
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Thanks for the comprehensive response.

You are right that Europe's right is probably even more is xenophopic because they don't care about any 1% agenda. The other side of it is that the politically incorrect have had an outlet with smaller parties like the NFin france and don't have a candidate who is as viable as trump right now.

I wont pick at the rest of response as I more wanted to see where you were coming from and there will plenty of time to hash these things out. I will say that I agree wit the Bold, would add that the power dynamic of a free market society needs to be taken into account. Market power will be used and abused and democracy is the natural offset to that. With all that not sure how there is any other choice but to be a hesitant democrat at least.
 
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