16 days until Obama leaves office

Anung Un Rama said:
How exactly did Obama make America more racist?

I agree he handled race issues poorly, but those types of issues existed before and will exist after his presidency.

Personally, I think people have used Obama as an excuse to show their true colors.
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Hussein Obama is the "great divider."

"The cops acted stupidly."
"If I had a son"
 
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DevilsLettuce said:
No, but at this point BLM is on its face a racist movement - imo.
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I can't fully disagree with you there, but I think it's a huge mistake to disregard them completely. They have a legit cause, even if they've executed poorly.
 
ripskater said:
Hussein Obama is the "great divider."

"The cops acted stupidly."
"If I had a son"
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The great divider moniker is somewhat justified, but the racism was already there, the racist policies were there. BLM was going to emerge regardless because of the preexisting environment.
 
oleDirtyBast4rd said:
You answered your own question. Nobody is saying Obama created racism lol
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No. People are saying Obama caused America to be racist. That is not true. Racism existed and circumstances developed, unrelated to Obama, that caused the situation to come to a head of sorts. Did he manage it poorly? Absolutely. Did he cause it, obviously not.
 
Anung Un Rama said:
No. People are saying Obama caused America to be racist. That is not true. Racism existed and circumstances developed, unrelated to Obama, that caused the situation to come to a head of sorts. Did he manage it poorly? Absolutely. Did he cause it, obviously not.
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Well I don't know who you're referring to. I've never heard that before which is why I challenged what you said
 
Anung Un Rama said:
The great divider moniker is somewhat justified, but the racism was already there, the racist policies were there. BLM was going to emerge regardless because of the preexisting environment.
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I'm not saying it wasn't there. I'm am saying Obama stoked the flames.

It's a shame, he could have helped bring people together. But that just is not the type of person Obama is. Obama hates traditional American values and I believe Obama dislikes the Constitution. He also loves Islam and any chance he gets to criticize Christianity, he takes advantage of that. Whites and blacks could have come together under those things. But none of those things are what Obama desires for the USA.
 
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It is now 200! Just in time for UFC 200!
 
chardog said:
my health insurance is over $100 more each pay period, I get less tax back while making more every year.

Neither hilary/trump have yet to do anything to my pocketbook, while obama is directly responsible for money hemorrhaging from my pockets.
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hillary has stated she would defend the affordable care act (obamacare) when in office. of course she cherry picked the positives, ignored the negatives and then outright lied when she said she would go further to reduce costs (acting as if obamacare did anything other than lead to skyrocketing costs).
 
Anung Un Rama said:
Personally, I think people have used Obama as an excuse to show their true colors.
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I agree. Chicago is proof enough of that.

Obama has done nothing whatsoever to quell the violence going there because he'd have to call out minorities on their bullshit and that doesn't fit the agenda of the left.
 
God bless Barack Obama, greatest of all time.
 
Jack V Savage said:
I'm not objecting to your choice of words; I'm objecting to your theoretical construct. It's not like people make their money in some kind of libertarian utopia and then pay to the gov't. It's a fully integrated system. Gov't policy, including taxation, affects pre-tax income.



It's true by definition that if spending and taxation were equal, there would be no deficit. We haven't been discussing "shoulds" here (I mean, I did in my first post state one reason that Trump's presidency would likely be disastrous, but you and I have been discussing what is rather than what should be). If you want to, I'd say I'm open to the idea that there might be a time or reason why we'd want to all borrow money so rich people can be richer. I don't see the case for it in today's America, though.



I did in my first response to you. Generally, a tax cut can be financed by spending cuts. And note that it is easy to cut taxes in a way that doesn't give disproportionately to the wealthy, as someone who pays taxes in the highest bracket also pays taxes in all the other brackets.
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This is an excellent point that I have never even considered, perhaps coincidentally its one that left out of most Right leaning arguments on taxation haha
 
hes the worst president ever. just ask people...

hes been a secret muslim radical christian communist fascist without a birth certificate

he divided america. i mean really....did you ever see people fighting about race in the streets before obama? did one of our founding fathers not shoot another in a duel over political division? hells no. all started with obummer.

worse than harding, nixon, jackson, and johnson all combined.
 
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