“New here — who you got: Islam or Jack Della Maddalena?”

Islam will beat JDM, because the sport needs him to beat JDM. Islam vs Topuria is the biggest fight since Connor vs Aldo.

Now that we know that majority of fights in UFC are fake, we just need to follow the money, and that will reveal destiny. Ever wondered how JDM can get ragdolled by a bum like Basil Hafez, and then magically outwrestle Belal, the best wrestler in the division???!!!

If the fight isn't outright rigged, look for wierd things like, JDM instantly losing a point for a foul without warning, or an early ref stoppage if Islam gets an advantage. All the cards are on Islam's side right now.
Bro. He didn’t get ragdolled by Hafiz. Watch the fight. He would easily beat up Basil all fight but he kept jumping for gullotines on takedowns he had defended already.

He very dominantly won that fight and was never in even mild danger. He just had a roud head come in late notice and try lay and pray.

Your entire comment is idiocy, people like you are broke for a reason. Thinking everything is down conspiracy
 
No it isn’t. Conor khabib was far bigger. Conor Dustin is bigger too.

This fake hardcore love of Ilia is so cringe.

That fight will barely sell 1 million ppvs or the equivalent viewership under new format

talking about ppv numbers is like talking about how nostalgic it was to rent videos from blockbuster.

licensing deals bro. 7.7 Billion deal thanks to Ilia
 
talking about ppv numbers is like talking about how nostalgic it was to rent videos from blockbuster.

licensing deals bro. 7.7 Billion deal thanks to Ilia
His PPV vs Oliveira didn’t even crack a million. He isn’t even the highest selling UFC fighter currently so why lie?

PPV’s are still the current era you dummy.

Ilia is approximately 25% as popular as Conor was.

I completely shredded your argument so you have to be childish lmao.

Can’t tell if you are young and naive so everything feels really big and new to you and hard to understand or if you are a bitter old head
 
Bro. He didn’t get ragdolled by Hafiz. Watch the fight. He would easily beat up Basil all fight but he kept jumping for gullotines on takedowns he had defended already.

He very dominantly won that fight and was never in even mild danger. He just had a roud head come in late notice and try lay and pray.

Your entire comment is idiocy, people like you are broke for a reason. Thinking everything is down conspiracy

He was going for the guillotines because Hafez was too deep on the takedowns for him to sprawl!

I thought JDM won, but round 2 could have gone either way and you know it.

Most things are conspiracies, the reason why the world is such a shit hole today, is because gullible people like you can be programmed to believe in scammers lies
 
His PPV vs Oliveira didn’t even crack a million. He isn’t even the highest selling UFC fighter currently so why lie?

PPV’s are still the current era you dummy.

Ilia is approximately 25% as popular as Conor was.

I completely shredded your argument so you have to be childish lmao.

Can’t tell if you are young and naive so everything feels really big and new to you and hard to understand or if you are a bitter old head

you sound like a boomer, thinking ppv numbers are still relevant. 7.7 Billion dollar deal, cmon bro, wakeup.
 
I wouldnt be surprised either way. Im not at all confident Jack doesnt get taken down and submitted with ease.

If he is able to keep it standing i think he will beat the crap out of Islam, but its a big if.
 
Jack has been training with Craig Jones to nullify Islams grappling. Craig is the reason that Volk didn't get wrestlefucked into bolivian by Islam in their first fight.

Assuming Jack is putting in the work, and being that he is much larger, I think he gets the W.

 
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If I had to bet, I’d bet on Islam but people sleep on how good jdm is. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we got a good competitive scrap outta this.
 
Im favoring Islam by sub

But Jack is a strong guy and can box as well as get up from TDs

Its gonna be an interesting fight
 
Jack has been training with Craig Jones to nullify Islams grappling. Craig is the reason that Volk didn't get wrestlefucked into bolivian by Islam in their first fight.

Assuming Jack is putting in the work, and being that he is much larger, I think he gets the W.


He kind of did though. Maybe not wrestlefucked into bolivia, but he got the TD in all of the first 4 rounds, and took his back and Volk couldn't get up until the round ended in the 1st and 4th. Volk did well staying out of any real sub danger though. Islam isn't really a relentless TD guy. He gets TDs in most fights, but if someone defends, he's pretty quick to let it go and just strike with them.

I'm not even sure JDM has much of a striking advantage. He has better hands, but Islam controls distance really well with kicks, then boxing range is also close enough to be clinched and taken down too. JDM scrambles well and is probably better in the middle range, but he might have some trouble keeping it in that range for extended periods.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if 170 Makachev comes in like a gorilla and controls JDM in typical Islam fashion. People seem to think he's going to come into this bout some kind of smaller and weaker man. I really don't think so. Its kind of odd to have a definitive opnion about this fight when nobody's ever seen this version of Islam. We don't know what he is at 170. Such an awesome fight to find out though.
 
He kind of did though. Maybe not wrestlefucked into bolivia, but he got the TD in all of the first 4 rounds, and took his back and Volk couldn't get up until the round ended in the 1st and 4th. Volk did well staying out of any real sub danger though. Islam isn't really a relentless TD guy. He gets TDs in most fights, but if someone defends, he's pretty quick to let it go and just strike with them.

I'm not even sure JDM has much of a striking advantage. He has better hands, but Islam controls distance really well with kicks, then boxing range is also close enough to be clinched and taken down too. JDM scrambles well and is probably better in the middle range, but he might have some trouble keeping it in that range for extended periods.
this is so far the only post worth reading here but few points of contention.

Volk was smaller in the end and easier to handle unless you personally would say his TDD is better than JDM? thoughts on that? only problem with wrestling Volk was his complete lack of neck.

but JDM is bigger and a lot more to handle than Volk is so how would you contest that point?

plus your point on JDM's hands well a smaller Poirer with less reach is purely mostly a boxer Islam did at time struggle with his hands despite 4-1 rounds (if that even) and Poirier is more worn out and slower unless you'd say his boxing skillset is better than JDM as well.

Islam has a wicked roundhouse but naturally it worked for shorter fighters whereas JDM is 5'11 so I dont see him using so many of those nor does he use leg kicks.

what's your prediction for the fight?
 
Honestly I think Islam is going to make it look pretty easy and probably finish him. People are overestimating the size difference, and JDM has not shown himself to have a genuine p4p level skillset so far. Generally when guys come up from a lower weight class to fight the champ its because they consider that champ to be a soft touch.
 
Thank you for this good thread, new one!

So, less than 10 days away from this fight, we’ve got a thread about what shermanos think who will win between Islame and JDM — and in just 2 pages, around 60% are voting for Islame, 40% for JDM. So far, 100% of the posts have been normal votes with actual explanations on why people think their pick will win. No insults, no hate toward the other side — just a fair and balanced shermano evaluation.

Of course, one bathtubber had to write an essay about why his brethren’s win over a midget was somehow better than what people who’ve rewatched the fight 5+ times think — but okay, at least he wasn’t insulting either.

In case Islame wins and the Bathtubbers (who are always even worse winners than losers) start saying, “we’re not bad winners, y’all were just disrespectful and hating on Islame pre-fight, and this is why we’re now super disrespectful towards you and the fighter you picked,” we can drop this thread and show them they’ve been paranoid for years for no reason.​
 
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