Why does weed have such strong advocates?

[JonnyRingo84]

Because people are in jail and prison over it and most of us find that to be grossly unfair.

this and....

lots of people want to smoke it.

 

[HereticBD]

Who is saying weed is safe to drive on and is a ped?

Don't know about the PED stuff, but the "safe to drive on" argument is real. I went through my 24/7 pothead phase years ago, and every stoner I knew made that argument if it ever came up. I can't tell you how many times I heard "You're actually a better driver while stoned, because it makes you more focused."

Potheads say the damnedest things. I believe part of the reason weed can't be seriously and fairly looked at, in terms of legalization, is all the ridiculous and extreme views a lot of it's advocates argue. While some of the detractors might have ridiculous "Reefer Madness"-like views on it, the extreme exists the other way as well. Extreme meets extreme, and few are willing to take an honest look at it.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

I support marijuana legalization but agree that some advocates have said some silly things. I've seen people argue it would wipe out the national debt because it could be taxed like cigarettes lol.

Yes, I'm also pro marijuana legalization but the arguments get pretty silly sometimes. I've heard the "cannabis got banned because it would bankrupt all other fibers" talking about how hemp is so much better than other fibers(although hemp is not banned in most places, at all), or how cannabis oil could be used to replace fossil fuels using some very optimistic math.
I think the reason is that people really enjoy cannabis, they care very little about how it can help people with cancer, they just want to get high legally.
I personally think cannabis is pretty boring, I don't like the smell, I don't like the culture, and I don't like the effects.
Weed made me lazier than I'm usually and I wasn't able to focus at all, I think it would be terrible for driving or working(my work at least).
I don't use any drugs, I barely drink coffee or alcohol, but I'd be more of an amphetamine guy personally, I'd love to be able to stay up for long hours and be super productive like Paul Erdos.

 

[method115]

It's a weird thing. Ever noticed how the dumbest losers from your high schools, the ones who couldn't pass a remedial science class if you gave them the answer key -- seem to get enthralled by the chemistry of weed? They can't get up on time for a job interview, finish a Robert Munsch book or move out of their mom's basement -- but they can tell you complex break downs of strains and fashion fairly intricate smoking apparatuses.

Weed is fine and all but potheads are just an odd group.

lol I had a friend like this except it was with pills. Unfortunately the dick head didn't tell me how addictive pain killers were and I got addicted to them after a year of daily use. I seriously went 2 weeks without feeling any happiness after I realized they were addictive and stopped taking them. Till this day I remember driving home going over the overpass and just feeling this immense sense of joy and realizing I haven't felt shit for like 2 weeks.

 

[Seano]

Basically this, the over the top pot advocates are sort of the pendulum swinging back the other way I suppose. I support marijuana legalization but even I agree with TS that pot advocates take it too far. I'd go as far as to say that while I support its legalization I don't really want to see it become too accepted socially either. In fact I'd be okay with banning public ads and even banning the creation of the Amsterdam style coffeehouses where people can purchase and smoke weed.

I say you should be able to buy it at dispensaries but not smoke at them or in public generally though you should be able to grow as much as you are able to so I don't agree with restrictions on personal grow ops.

I agree. I've smoked more than my share of weed over the years but I agree with you about the advocacy. Its silliness. I always found it embarrassing. It made me want to distance myself from weed more than the stigma of being someone who uses it.

 

[Rematch]

I've always found the claim that marijuana cures cancer to be humorous especially when one of the advocates that exposes his/her ignorance has a picture of Bob Marley on the wall.

 

[superpunch]

this and....

lots of people want to smoke it.

It's not just about weed tho. Visit places where weed is treated like a super hard drug -- Korea, Japan, etc. These places are amazingly safe, clean.. and it's because their culture doesn't fall down the trap of excusing drug use and other impure behavior.

Weed itself is fine. But drawing the line at accepting weed leads to problems.

Imagine if you could just scoop up everyone that might have weed in their system, drug test them, and put them in jail. Every thug, gang member, and vagrant junkie would be off the street overnight. The entire country's crime problem, drug problem, and homeless problem would be eliminated instantly.

If you set the bar really high, you can much more easily eliminate everything below that bar.

The normal people that smoke weed? Just don't do it. They can choose not to. Thugs, gang members, junkies and vagrants? They can't do that. They're damaged people that have to smoke weed. It stays in your system for a month and everything else is out in like 2 days. You can use weed as a drag net to clean up society.

 

[Undying Poster]

It is rather tragic that the defining issue for millennials in Canada is legalized weed. People actually voted for a brainless, spoiled, trust-fund baby because he promised to legalize weed.

Re-consider your worldview.

 

[Scheme]

I've always found the claim that marijuana cures cancer to be humorous especially when one of the advocates that exposes his/her ignorance has a picture of Bob Marley on the wall.

Almost as funny as the 'it's just a plant' argument. Tons of plants will kill you instantly if you ingest them.

Weed itself needs to be stigmatized, but the punishments for having it should be very lenient (a fine or something).

Also I don't like the fact that socialists are very pro-drug use. I fear a country where people are just sitting around, not working, leeching off the government, but using drugs to make their lives not completely miserable.

 

[Undying Poster]

Basically this, the over the top pot advocates are sort of the pendulum swinging back the other way I suppose. I support marijuana legalization but even I agree with TS that pot advocates take it too far. I'd go as far as to say that while I support its legalization I don't really want to see it become too accepted socially either. In fact I'd be okay with banning public ads and even banning the creation of the Amsterdam style coffeehouses where people can purchase and smoke weed.

I say you should be able to buy it at dispensaries but not smoke at them or in public generally though you should be able to grow as much as you are able to so I don't agree with restrictions on personal grow ops.

It's not over the top. Over the top is locking a man in a cage over a relatively harmless plant because of racist whites in a country that was partially founded on personal liberties.

By the way I don't smoke weed anymore and I don't think I've ever advocated marijuana usage on here, so I don't fall in this category either we're speaking of, I'm just telling it how it is.

Were comparing annoying hippies vs depriving people of their lives

 

[HunterSdVa29]

It's the only drug that has literally never killed a person.....ever

people die everyday from Tylenol, none the less alcohol and tobacco

That triangle trade diretly effected our drug policies heading forward, it's a damn shame really

 

[grimballer]

Because people are in jail and prison over it and most of us find that to be grossly unfair.

Nobody forced them to be in possession/sell

What happen to personal accountability?

It’s too much to ask ppl not to break laws?

 

[HereticBD]

It's not over the top. Over the top is locking a man in a cage over a relatively harmless plant because of racist whites in a country that was partially founded on personal liberties.

I'm not being over the top, I'm just saying that weed is illegal because of racism.

 

[Pupi]

because it's pretty awesome dude

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[Undying Poster]

I'm not being over the top, I'm just saying that weed is illegal because of racism.

AFAIK of the main reasons criminalizing got so much support. Not an argument, by the way.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Nobody forced them to be in possession/sell

What happen to personal accountability?

It’s too much to ask ppl not to break laws?

Uh thats why so many people want to change the law dude its a silly law for a silly thing that has done a lot of damage to peoples lives and the constitution over the years.

 

[grimballer]

Uh thats why so many people want to change the law dude its a silly law for a silly thing that has done a lot of damage to peoples lives and the constitution over the years.

Yeah right

Morons who couldn’t respect the law did damage to themselves

Country has laws expect citizens to obey by them

I know it’s crazy

 

[DaDamn]

Industrial hemp could end deforestation. The logging industry does not want this.

Legislation and discrimination retroactively would have a big impact on our penal system. Folks on probation will do harder drugs because it’s out of their system in 2 days when all they want to do is smoke a joint.

Medical, not sure but I wouldn’t be surprised if it does help in a number of ways.

The Black Market: why not tax it and use the money on infrastructure and education and stuff like that.

You can get weed anytime you want. It’s kinda like it’s legal all ready. I keep hearing about large quantities being shipped through the USPS, WTF is that?

 

[bufetadanacara]

I support people being able to grow and possess and consume it. I do not support the selling of it.

 

[Rematch]

Industrial hemp could end deforestation. The logging industry does not want this.

Legislation and discrimination retroactively would have a big impact on our penal system. Folks on probation will do harder drugs because it’s out of their system in 2 days when all they want to do is smoke a joint.

Medical, not sure but I wouldn’t be surprised if it does help in a number of ways.

The Black Market: why not tax it and use the money on infrastructure and education and stuff like that.

You can get weed anytime you want. It’s kinda like it’s legal all ready. I keep hearing about large quantities being shipped through the USPS, WTF is that?

In regards to industrial hemp, how many hemp plans would be the equivalent of a pine tree in a combination of size and quality?