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Chuck's reach is about 2.5" shorter than Gus' and 4.5" longer than DC (who was able to get inside and crack Jon multiple times). And that's going on Chuck's measured reach from years ago which honestly looks a bit short when you actually watch his fights. All of the old fighters have suspiciously short reach measurements, I'm wondering if they've since changed the way they measure reach
Rampage just had Liddell's number, and his chin was on its way out anyway.
But Liddell's a bad matchup with Jones, who historically has had issues with guys he doesn't have a huge size / reach advantage over (IE: Gustafsson, Saint-Preux).
I think Liddell stays on the outside, eats a few jabs and oblique kicks, but eventually catches Jones with an overhand right, puts him against the cage, and tees off until the referee stoppage.
Not unlike old man Couture pulling off the win against then-unbeatable Tim Sylvia, who likewise had an insane size / reach advantage over the rest of the competition.
The truth about Jones is that his time was almost up anyway. Cormier was a good win, but again Jones is exceptional at exploiting his reach over smaller fighters. He wouldn't have had such advantages at HW, and would've been dealing with power he's not accustomed to.
Can you explain this arm twist? I'm picturing indian rope burn and I dont think he would fuck around doing that.
Most people who take PEDs 'cycle'. They don't live on the stuff 24/7. You can see how unimpressive Jon looks off the sauce.
Still hilarious that people take a pic from June/July 2013 when he was out of camp, not training, and partying 4-5 nights a week (drinking, smoking weed, and doing coke. He told Ariel this in their one on one while he was suspended) . And compare it to a picture from November 2015. When he is sober, training daily, focusing mainly on power lifting, and grappling.Most people who take PEDs 'cycle'. They don't live on the stuff 24/7. You can see how unimpressive Jon looks off the sauce.
June/July before the Gus fight when he was partying, and not training to Nov 2015 when he was Sober, suspended, and focusing on power lifting, and grappling.dunno what the time frame of these are, could be that he was just on the off season or not training. Honestly its obvious he wasnt training in some of those pics lol. But even off the sauce you keep a good bit of gains you dont just turn skinny fat the day u cycle off. def looks juiced in those pics tho.
What does DC's dodgy T/E ratio make you think?Jones dodgy T/E ration in the first Cormier fight makes me think its not recent.
Seems like a chicken shit thing to do despite not being illegal.
Why is it a chicken shit thing to do? Because it hurt Glover? It's 100% legal. Should he fighters stop kicking, and punching each other in the head too?Seems like a chicken shit thing to do despite not being illegal.
MMA Math... When has jones EVER knocked anyone out with one punch? Rampage / Liddell is not a close comparison. Also, Rampage caught Liddell on a downturn. If Cormier could land on jones, Liddell kills him. Now, both on cocaine in the fight....? Who knows?
He never got caught. Jones did. We don't assume someone is guilty because they might have done something. What we know is Jones tested positive on more than one occasion, while Chuck never has.
There is also a moral difference between doing coke while partying and roiding when your job is to physically hurt others.
Again, Jones got caught roiding more than once and Chuck never did. They still had testing pre-USADA.Again, Jones was never caught pre-USADA, either. That's the only real apples-to-apples comparison we can make. And LOL if you think Chuck worried about taking roids because he'd hurt people too much.