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Discussion in 'The War Room' started by freaky, Apr 12, 2017.

  1. grimballer Black Belt

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    n then you talk about strawman...

    not saying russian media in in rsuia is better or worse. youre just having an argument with yourself there.

    all im saying is western media also has a bias n cant be blindly trusted (like you do) without scrutiny.
     
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  2. grimballer Black Belt

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    sweden n finland are not part of nato. i guess their invasion is a 50 years masterplan soon to happen, right?

    georgia attacked south ossetia 1st, ukraine was overtaken by us backed right wing militant n concerned citizens in east took up arms, n considering usa n rest of nato members redrew european map n change borders illegally, why would putin play by those arbitrary rules?

    you mean usa using n supporting islamists n other criminal groups to weaken russian allies?

    funny how history repeats itself.
     
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  3. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    No it demolished your strawman
    If sa's brutal regime had an uprising id be pro it...as there isnt one why mention it?

    Lol over half the remaining pro regime groumd forces as fanatics son

    No you barely touched isis ypubwent straight at rebels and theyve been 80-90% of all russian work, started wiping out turkmen villages as they were anti assad minority whos forces in the lakitia mountains and hills threatened your airbase

    You are wrecking havoc in syria hitting eveery bit of free civilian infrastructure andnbackingba tyrant vs the will of the people there
    .all for a shitty lil warm water port
     
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  4. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    Western media is mass multiple independent sources often in competitionnwith each other in an enviroment with freedom of press
    .....you cant blanket it all as one biased source esp when you feel rt today (one source from a non free nation) is truth
     
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  5. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    And yet thanks to putins postuing theybare gearing up to repel one comrade

    Lol again with the pretending ukraine wasnt invaded after people overthrew its corrupt goverment ...no russian troops at all? Lol
    Also again nato expansion is due to countries asking tonget in....i dont think u grasp that
    They arent russias property they have the right to seek closer western ties if they want and protection if theybfeel threatened

    So no massacres in serbia? Jeez no you have exposed yourself as delusional
     
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  6. grimballer Black Belt

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    cause you pretend to fight injustice n brutal regimes on one hand, but on the other youre allies with saudis. its very relevant. you dont want it to be mentioned cause it exposes your hypocrisy n how much full of shit you n rest of neocons truly are.

    no son. "allah akbar" screaming fanatics are exclusively on your side.


    you can make up your "facts" all you want n continue living in your fantazie, but the reality is since russians came in isis n other fanatic territoire started to shrink, while it was expending when usa was "fighting" them.

    nah syria was wrecked when you stated helping extremists. n things like blowing up hospitals n hitting cvilians is what incompetent americans do.
     
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  7. grimballer Black Belt

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    n they all have their own agendas regardless of truth. n collectively they all have anti russian agenda.

    rt does a good job of exposing western bias
     
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  8. grimballer Black Belt

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    you saying ukraine was invaded doesnt make it true. its just your brainwashed opinion.

    n lol at ppl overthrew corrupt govt. n did what after? replace it with other criminals n usa puppets?

    again, not true.

    countries are invited so usa has indiert control over those countries. for those coutirwes it means not having to eorry about militray spending as much (especially smaller nations).

    now of course they can do whatever they want, however joining nato is clear provocation n goes against german unification agreement between soviet union at that time n nato countries.

    same stroyline like in syria.

    usa backed crooks/extremists provoke civil unrest n start a war n then usa n its vassal allies blame everything on the country defending its territory n its citizens.

    rinse n repeat.
     
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  9. Feniamin Blue Belt

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    I was a kid when this stuff happened but from what you can find in web it doesn't look like "volunteers siding with minorities". For example, Georgian officials said that Georgians was bombed from the airplane and this airplane was Russian (I can't remember if there were photos or video proofs that airplane was Russian). Russian officials said that Georgians bombed themselves and that airplane was Georgian, just painted in Russian colors. Georgians replied with something like "are you retarded?". I think I've seen book of some Russian military official who said that they provided Shamil Basaev and rebels with weapon (because they received such command). If I'm not mistaken, idea was like that - Basaev kills everyone in a couple of villages (where population is mostly ethnically Ossetians and Russians) and after that Russian officials will start to blame Georgians in genocide of Ossetians/Russians.
    If I'm not mistaken, there is a couple of contracts, which were signed during Tsardom and during Soviet period and according to them Russia recognizes Kuril Islands as part of Japan. You can find proper info in English wikipedia or just in Google.
    And about referendum and stuff you know about Dagestani villages and Azerbaijan? Russia transmitted villages to Azerbaijan, problem is that Russian locals doesn't like that idea, plus they was informed like "Hello, from next week your homes and land will be property of Azerbaijan. Your opinion doesn't matter, we don't care and you can't change anything. Goodbye.".
    Just look at Russian or Ukranian Ministers of Defense. Plus, I doubt that Latvian army in 1995, for example, had significant differencies from Russian army in 1995. Or was much more different than Soviet army.
    There were any war in Crimea? It reminds me Russian TV shows: pro-Russians says that if there were Russian army in Donetsk and Luhask then Kiev already would be under Russian control, and pro-Ukranians says that the same great awesome and powerful Russian army wasn't able to even beat drunken/stoned Chechen bums for years.
     
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  10. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    -lol ok no russian invasion of ukraine...literaly no one else on earth belives your russian b.s


    -how the fuck does nato give anyone indirect control? Its a defensive pact
    Clear provocation? They have a right to not be bullied by russia....they dont recognise russias right to rule that region

    -yeah those millions of 'crooks' who went onto the streets unarmed and were shot at
    The ones languishing in jail and torture centres for anti goverment graffiti
    Its all a big cia plot .....the cia said juamp and formerly happy people all poured onto the streets risking their lives and family lives to pretend they were unhappy now? Lol
     
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  11. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    Yes a mass of multiple indepnendent agendas oftenn n competition with each other

    Rt is russian propaganda....where an alternative reality 100% at thebkremlins contril is pushed that goewls against what all those multiple independent sources worldwide report
     
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  12. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    Russia hasnt some brutal tyrant allies? I see none of the former soviet countries seem to be free and yet putin isnt afraid to shake hands with those scum
    This was about me personaly and i said id. support an uprising vs sa

    -lol so now your pretending hezbollah and dozens of iranian and iraqi militas arent in syria? Ok lol

    well lets look at your contribution shall we
    -did u save the kurds at kobane...no u.s
    -did you arm the kurds ,re arm and retrain iraqi forces including sunni tribes and give them close air support to push isis back to mosul...no u.s again
    -did you work hard to curb malaki to create the political enviromentnneeded to break isis..no u.s again
    -have u used sf and pinpoint strikes to hurt isis leadership?.....nope you havent nor even have the tech to
    -have u helped the southern front fsa rebels push isis out of southern syria...no you are literaly currently bombing the anti isis push there!!!
    -have u asssited the turk-fsa force that smashed isis in the north..nope
    -have us assisted the kurdish sdf push either? Nope u.s weapins and close air support aggin for the win

    What u have done is hit some isis oil trucks and pumps ......which given assad is the major oil buyer of isis you could actualy be a big help and switch off at will
    You have done 80%-90% of your bombing at rebels and syrian infrastructure....not helpful at all
    Ooh and u helped the hapless regime retake palmyra..twice with irans help
    So what you have done is very limited esp when you have helped prop up isis main economic partner,weapons supplier and recruitment agent(assad)


    Lol the last part must be a joke..russia cant stop hitting hospitals (not one apology) and levelling infrastructure en masse is younand regimes strategy
     
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  13. grimballer Black Belt

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    Again it funny how when Russia gets involved in a conflict on their border n with nations they used to be in a union with its condemned, but when NATO intervenes in a conflict that has nothing to do with them its acceptable?
     
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  14. grimballer Black Belt

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    That's cause they get bombarded by your "free press" western media.

    If you say a lie 1000 times ppl start to believe it


    Yeah let some pretend Slovenia has as much leverage as USA in NATO decision making...

    N I like the excuse "getting bullied" to further expand NATO easternward. There's was an agreement between nato n Russia (ussr then) about NATO expansiin

    -yeah those millions of 'crooks' who went onto the streets unarmed and were shot at
    The ones languishing in jail and torture centres for anti goverment graffiti [/QUOTE]
     
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  15. whougonnacall Silver Belt

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    [/QUOTE]
    -Says the guy pushing the lie russia didnt invade the ukraine lol

    -in nato matters no ..in everything else free as a bird,not so much if russia invades
    The agreement doesnt stop coubtries asking to be members ...again u dont grasp this they arent russian property
     
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