TWood thinks he’s playing the game well

Gregolian said:
Can't an argument be made though when you're in Woodley's situation getting fans on your side means people will shell out for tickets and PPVs and thus your value goes up which means you can get paid more.

Woodley is stuck in that spot where he acts like a heel but doesn't WANT to be a heel to steal concepts from pro wrestling. You look at boxing... Mayweather knows where he is. He KNOWS he's the bad guy and knows the amount of guys that buy tickets and PPVs to watch him because they like him... an equal amount of people buy just to hope to see him lose.

He has two choices... either try and get the fans on his side so people shell out cash in a time when people don't have a ton of spare money cause they like you... or be a hardass heel and hope people start turning out to watch you lose.

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Right now he's kinda stuck at "X-Pac heat" where people just kinda... don't care.

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To take from other sports like NHL. Marchand of the Bruins is fucking hated by EVERYONE that isn't a Bruins fan and even some Bruins fans don't like the guy. He knows this and he plays it up and is that chirpy instigator constantly.

Avery, Ott, and Thornton (the older one that was a Bruin for awhile) all fall into that roll too.

Avery would dive, Ott would boop people on the head with his stick and shit and act like he didn't do anything, and Thornton would swear at opposing players then go "you grow a pair? I'll let you pick which hand I beat the fuck out of you with".

Woodley does things that annoys fans but then acts shocked people don't like him.
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Of course, but the promoter...Dana and the UFC need to be on the same page with Tyron. Mayweather, and WWE guys don't have their promoters undermining whatever image theyre trying to create.
Tyron WAS trying to get the fans on his side. He made his 'Champ Camp' video series, got parts in movies, asked the UFC to do some outreach stuff in Ferguson (his hometown ), and whether you wantee to see it or not, he was trying to get some "money fights" going. The UFC didn't do anything to help his efforts . They went against them.

If Dana and company really didn't want Tyron talking about fights with Diaz and Bisping and GSP, then they should have sat down with Tyron had a chat about his career and title plans. Instead, Dana was pretty much actively turning fans against Woodley. Saying things on tv, that should have been said in private
How is Tyron supposed to get fans on his side when the promoter is shitting on him?

Part of the reason that people don't care about Woodley is because the way his fights went, and he's getting an unfair amount of blame for that.
People seem to keep forgetting that he KOd Robbie.
The 1st WB fight was mostly boring till Round 4. He and WB are stylistically not a good matchup. So you do 2 boring WB fights back to back, and then throw in old man Maia, and then it's all Woodley's fault?
Woodley wouldn't get all the fan he gets if the UFC would actually have his back
 
Alpha_T83 said:
I just meant layoff in the general term of inactivity. But yes, after his loss to Rory and split-decision win against Kelvin, he whined until he got a totally undeserved title shot. I'm just sad that Robbie choked and didn't take Woodley seriously.
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Lol wtf
You guys just straight up make shit up
Dana was the one that said Woodley would get the title shot BECAUSE Johnny Hendricks missed weight. It wasn't Tyron begging. Why would he take another fight when he was promised a title shot?

Lol and now it's "Robbie didn't take Tyron seriously "?
He trained with Tyron. He knew how dangerous he was, but...he didn't take him seriously
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SmilinDesperado said:
Of course, but the promoter...Dana and the UFC need to be on the same page with Tyron. Mayweather, and WWE guys don't have their promoters undermining whatever image theyre trying to create.
Tyron WAS trying to get the fans on his side. He made his 'Champ Camp' video series, got parts in movies, asked the UFC to do some outreach stuff in Ferguson (his hometown ), and whether you wantee to see it or not, he was trying to get some "money fights" going. The UFC didn't do anything to help his efforts . They went against them.

If Dana and company really didn't want Tyron talking about fights with Diaz and Bisping and GSP, then they should have sat down with Tyron had a chat about his career and title plans. Instead, Dana was pretty much actively turning fans against Woodley. Saying things on tv, that should have been said in private
How is Tyron supposed to get fans on his side when the promoter is shitting on him?

Part of the reason that people don't care about Woodley is because the way his fights went, and he's getting an unfair amount of blame for that.
People seem to keep forgetting that he KOd Robbie.
The 1st WB fight was mostly boring till Round 4. He and WB are stylistically not a good matchup. So you do 2 boring WB fights back to back, and then throw in old man Maia, and then it's all Woodley's fault?
Woodley wouldn't get all the fan he gets if the UFC would actually have his back
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I really feel like the UFC as a whole has fucked over a fair amount of guys.

As an org it works great for a guy like Cerrone who would probably love to have a title but is perfectly content fighting 900 times a year and going out on his shield if he's going to lose. But those guys that have more "methodical" styles like say the Fitch, Okami, and Woodley types Dana and company are a detriment.

Case in point again guys like Wladimir Klitschko and Mayweather. Neither of them have the style of guys like Cerrone or in the boxing world a GGG but guys will tune in to watch them cause they're allowed (or were in the case of Wlad since he retired) promote themselves how they want.

They aren't stuck doing the "I'm a tough guy" shtick the UFC seems to force on everyone. You can see how much dude's have flourished once they left as proof of that in some cases.
 
Timurd123 said:
I disagree with the last part

Most people have a shit life and are dyin for attention, they would sell their family to be famous
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those are men raised without a strong father and embody the attention seeking qualities of their mothers.
 
WhuffieCollector said:
Last time I checked sports was an entertainment industry.

You're telling me that we're wrong to want entertaining performers when we pay for entertainment?

Eff Oh.
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Who said that?
What i am saying is that there are a lot of dumbass fans that expect fighters to put the "just bleed mentality " ahead of their actual health and CAREER.
If you care about the fighters and sport, you should want them to get adequately paid for their service.

Fighters shouldn't take whatever fight put in front of them for whatever price the UFC pays. The UFC is pretty notorious for not always giving fighters a fair deal, so I don't know why fans would side with the UFC over the fighter. As long as the fighter isn't going into "I'll fight for 20 million " delusional Diaz territory

Fans are entitled to want to see exciting fights, but they should also be mindful of the circumstances for the fighters.
There are legitimate reasons for turning down fights that have nothing to do with "ducking "

and your "paying for entertainment ", your money goes to the UFC. It isn't evenly distributed to the fighters
 
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Racism is a very real and very serious issue in society. Fighter pay and rights in general are also very serious and legitimate issues in MMA.

That being said, Tyrone is an unlikable dumbass who won't stop shooting himself in the foot.
 
DarkneT said:
But he can't sell PPV's he's hated in the worst way
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Don't confuse triggered racist Sherdoggers with casuals, though. Don't even confuse Sherdog for a place where everybody is white and racist and playing the confirmation bias game. This place is bad, but it's not Stormfront.

SomniumRabidum said:
Racism is a very real and very serious issue in society. Fighter pay and rights in general are also very serious and legitimate issues in MMA.

That being said, Tyrone is an unlikable dumbass who won't stop shooting himself in the foot.
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So on the one hand you agree with the man. On the other he's a dumbass who shoots himself in the foot. By that standard I can't fathom how any progress would ever have been made on ... anything, ever.
 
Gregolian said:
I really feel like the UFC as a whole has fucked over a fair amount of guys.

As an org it works great for a guy like Cerrone who would probably love to have a title but is perfectly content fighting 900 times a year and going out on his shield if he's going to lose. But those guys that have more "methodical" styles like say the Fitch, Okami, and Woodley types Dana and company are a detriment.

Case in point again guys like Wladimir Klitschko and Mayweather. Neither of them have the style of guys like Cerrone or in the boxing world a GGG but guys will tune in to watch them cause they're allowed (or were in the case of Wlad since he retired) promote themselves how they want.

They aren't stuck doing the "I'm a tough guy" shtick the UFC seems to force on everyone. You can see how much dude's have flourished once they left as proof of that in some cases.
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Guys like Cerrone are rare unicorns.
While I respect the balls on the guy, he is taking years off his life, not just years, but quality. That guy is going to have some serious pains when he's older..especially since he says he fights even when he's injured.
Those are the kinds of guys that the UFC and fans like, but those are also the guys you'll hear about in another 10 or 15 years with the CTE.
As much fun as a Cerrone fight is, the UFC and fans shouldn't be encouraging fighters to go the Cowboy route.

If Floyd can sell, so can some of these other "boring" UFC fighters. It's all about marketing.
The UFC is still stuck in the Tapout Tshirt phase..they only want to promote the in your face loudmouths like Conor, Perry, or Colby, or Garbrandt.
 
Flokk said:
Don't confuse triggered racist Sherdoggers with casuals, though. Don't even confuse Sherdog for a place where everybody is white and racist and playing the confirmation bias game. This place is bad, but it's not Stormfront.


So on the one hand you agree with the man. On the other he's a dumbass who shoots himself in the foot. By that standard I can't fathom how any progress would ever have been made on ... anything, ever.
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The only thing I'm getting confused with is you acting like a smart person when really you're a dumb fuck
 
Swarthy said:
Twood is less relevent then Colby...... let that sink in.
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By what measure? Doesn’t Woodley still make more money and have more twitter followers than Colby? I didn’t think Colby was actually getting traction with his porn prop girls.
 
DarkneT said:
The only thing I'm getting confused with is you acting like a smart person when really you're a dumb fuck
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You got that turd of a post out. Kudos. Time to take a break. Get yourself a hot pocket and some Dew.
 
He needs to stop worrying about his "legacy" and go out and forge it. GSP and Fedor never worried about their all-time rankings, they went out and fought and proved themselves.

Tyron is a great fighter, but probably not the best WW right now, let alone the best of all time. If/when he comes near GSP's title defense record, then we can talk.
 
bigeastgi43 said:
So Conor has no fans?
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Conor had the most amazing and active rise in mma until he got $100 million boxing match. If Conor played the game like Woodley is saying then Conor wouldn’t have nearly the amount of financial success.
 
You are playing the game wrong Woodley, getting booed means you’re playing it wrong.
 
Calipwnia said:
Him tweeting that RDA is fighting Colby for nothing and fighters “getting played” is the completely wrong attitude. Fans like fighters who fight, not wait out for the best matchup and most money while making crap excuses.
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I disagree.
Real fans want to see the top fighter fighting for the belt, not taking on an undeserving loudmouth.
If TWood was out for long them yes. But this one was a match made for nothing.
 
I remembered when Woodley was ducking Lombard because it would hurt his "brand".
 
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