The problem with our educational system: kids having best friends

[lfd0311]

i think its fake.

"banning best friends" is way better for click bait and fake outrage than "encouraging them to play in groups."

It straight up says that children are being told they shouldn't have best friends.....

 

[JonnyRingo84]

It straight up says that children are being told they shouldn't have best friends.....

says who? is this some sort of policy, and if so, why cant we see it? what is this quote being based off of?

is being told, theoretically, that you shouldnt have a best friend, a "best friend ban?" are they going to make sure that you dont play with that person anymore? what does this ban look like?

 

[lfd0311]

says who? is this some sort of policy, and if so, why cant we see it? what is this quote being based off of?

is being told, theoretically, that you shouldnt have a best friend, a "best friend ban?" are they going to make sure that you dont play with that person anymore? what does this ban look like?

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...pt-ban-having-best-friends-its-mean-exclusive

How many more links do you want? Children are being discouraged from forming close bonds with one another because it's "exclusionary". That's how absurd we've gotten.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...pt-ban-having-best-friends-its-mean-exclusive

How many more links do you want? Children are being discouraged from forming close bonds with one another because it's "exclusionary". That's how absurd we've gotten.

"some schools"

ok

which ones? how many? where is the policy? what does it look like, and how do i know your interpretation of this alleged policy isnt concocted for click bait and fake outrage over "friend bans?"

how many times do i need to say this?

 

[panamaican]

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...pt-ban-having-best-friends-its-mean-exclusive

How many more links do you want? Children are being discouraged from forming close bonds with one another because it's "exclusionary". That's how absurd we've gotten.

That's not a good link. It just links back to the US News link in the OP. And the US News link in the OP is just an opinion based on another US News story about helping kids deal with the end of friendships - not about ending best friends.

The only link with actual reference to banning best friends is the Sun article referring to UK schools and the Headmaster over there says it's not widespread but it is happening.

But to reiterate the original point - the National Review article is just a spin job on the US News article. So, you might as well just stick with the original opinion piece and not the opinion on the opinion piece.

 

[xcvbn]

It's pretty straightforward- the term "best friend" is useless 99.999% of the time. Raise kids to stop being so fickle.

Also, I think it's more beneficial to teach kids what makes someone a friend rather than an acquaintance.

 

[Happy Man]

I can see the idea behind such a policy. I wouldn't think being "exclusionary" is what's trying to ben combatted. I would imagine it's very close bonds between people that Is being combatted. Society is already ripping itself to shreds and keeps doing so. The lack of cohesiveness has only helped the cultural engineers cram new change. Nobody sticks together anymore.

 

[lfd0311]

That's not a good link. It just links back to the US News link in the OP. And the US News link in the OP is just an opinion based on another US News story about helping kids deal with the end of friendships - not about ending best friends.

The only link with actual reference to banning best friends is the Sun article referring to UK schools and the Headmaster over there says it's not widespread but it is happening.

But to reiterate the original point - the National Review article is just a spin job on the US News article. So, you might as well just stick with the original opinion piece and not the opinion on the opinion piece.

IS this one good enough?

http://www.businessinsider.com/schools-are-banning-best-friends-to-protect-kids-feelings-2017-9

 

[The Best JG]

Good luck getting an acquantaince to help u bury a body dumb ass

 

[panamaican]

IS this one good enough?

http://www.businessinsider.com/schools-are-banning-best-friends-to-protect-kids-feelings-2017-9

No.

The links in that story just go back to the Sun article already in the OP. The reference to Prince George's school in England doesn't actually ban best friends but encourages groups of friends, I suppose you could argue it both ways. But it doesn't really matter because it's still England and the Headmaster already said in the Sun article that it does happen but isn't widespread

The other links don't actually cite to schools but to counselors and therapists commenting on the pros and cons of the policy.

I haven't actually seen anything that goes beyond the scope of the Sun link from the OP.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

errr

i dont think any schools are banning best friends. even in europe. this is a fake outrage link. id almost guess the onion wrote it.

Before I can get outraged about this I would have to see more evidence and and get answers to questions such as what is being done to enforce these "bans"

If it's simply encouraging kids to broaden their Social Circle a little that's probably a good thing

 

[KILL KILL]

It appears this is a fake outrage thread. Good work, internet sleuths for sniffing the truth out.

 

[lfd0311]

No.

The links in that story just go back to the Sun article already in the OP. The reference to Prince George's school in England doesn't actually ban best friends but encourages groups of friends, I suppose you could argue it both ways. But it doesn't really matter because it's still England and the Headmaster already said in the Sun article that it does happen but isn't widespread

The other links don't actually cite to schools but to counselors and therapists commenting on the pros and cons of the policy.

I haven't actually seen anything that goes beyond the scope of the Sun link from the OP.

They are discouraging close friendships because of "inclusion". That's an official school policy. You can't deny that.

 

[lfd0311]

It appears this is a fake outrage thread. Good work, internet sleuths for sniffing the truth out.

It's their official policy to discourage close friendships. Does that sound right to you?

 

[panamaican]

They are discouraging close friendships because of "inclusion". That's an official school policy. You can't deny that.

I just denied it everywhere except in the limited circumstances from the Sun article - it's happening but not widespread.

Seriously, the Sun link seems to be the only link in this entire thread that references actual schools...and those schools are in England. So, if you're arguing that it's happening somewhere out there, sure. But if you're arguing that it's some real issue, not even England's Headmaster of schools thinks so.

It's certainly not something that's happening here in the U.S. because you haven't found a link stating so. Everything goes back to England and the same old Sun link.

 

[Scheme]

I just denied it everywhere except in the limited circumstances from the Sun article - it's happening but not widespread.

Seriously, the Sun link seems to be the only link in this entire thread that references actual schools...and those schools are in England. So, if you're arguing that it's happening somewhere out there, sure. But if you're arguing that it's some real issue, not even England's Headmaster of schools thinks so.

It's certainly not something that's happening here in the U.S. because you haven't found a link stating so. Everything goes back to England and the same old Sun link.

Here's another one, not sure entirely about the validity of it but: http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity-news/prince-george-best-friend-school-536244

"Loose Women panellist Jane Moore lives near the school and admitted that many of her friends have children in the school. The students are encouraged to be friendly with all of their classmates, and not to pick a favourite friend.

‘There are signs everywhere saying ‘be kind’ – that’s the ethos of the school,’ she said on the show last week. ‘They don’t encourage you to have best friends.’"

Was more of an article about Prince George but has statements reassuring of this strategy.

Some other thing:

http://teachingkidsnews.com/2012/04/03/banning-best-friends-at-school/

Some kids in London, England are being discouraged from having a best friend at school.

Psychologist Gaynor Sbuttoni, a specialist in children’s behaviour, told a London newspaper that some elementary teachers aren’t letting students have a best friend. Instead, they are urging children to play together in groups.

The Sun newspaper reported that Russell Hobby, of the UK’s National Association of Head Teachers, said some schools there have best-friend bans.

Teachers say the reason they do this is so kids don’t get hurt if they split up with their friend.

It seems like if a teacher sees a best-friend relationship starting, they are actively focused on breaking it up. I.e., they'll force the students not to work together. If that's the case, isn't that a little worrying?

 

[lfd0311]

I just denied it everywhere except in the limited circumstances from the Sun article - it's happening but not widespread.

Seriously, the Sun link seems to be the only link in this entire thread that references actual schools...and those schools are in England. So, if you're arguing that it's happening somewhere out there, sure. But if you're arguing that it's some real issue, not even England's Headmaster of schools thinks so.

It's certainly not something that's happening here in the U.S. because you haven't found a link stating so. Everything goes back to England and the same old Sun link.

You didn't read either of the links that I provided then that specifically mentions the Thomas Battersea school by name.

 

[panamaican]

Here's another one, not sure entirely about the validity of it but: http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity-news/prince-george-best-friend-school-536244



Was more of an article about Prince George but has statements reassuring of this strategy.

Some other thing:

http://teachingkidsnews.com/2012/04/03/banning-best-friends-at-school/


It seems like if a teacher sees a best-friend relationship starting, they are actively focused on breaking it up. I.e., they'll force the students not to work together. If that's the case, isn't that a little worrying?

He already provided the Marie Claire story in the Business Insider link. And it's about a school in England, which is already consistent with the Sun article from the OP. Also it doesn't ban best friends, it encourages a group friend approach but I can see that being argued as a discouragement. Although even that comes up short of an actual ban.

Your second link, again, references the Sun article and cites someone who is not actually affiliated with schools.

You're the TS. The Sun article that you cited is pretty much the only link we've seen that actually references this as a school policy anywhere and it's only referencing England. The issue is acknowledged as happening but not widespread.

 

[panamaican]

You didn't read either of the links that I provided then that specifically mentions the Thomas Battersea school by name.

You clearly didn't read the link or my post. In the post that you responded to, I actually explained why the Battersea reference isn't what you think it is - 1) Still England and 2) Doesn't ban best friends (click through to the Marie Claire article and read it).

 

[SaiWa]

It's not exactly the parents full responsibility in teaching discipline it's also the schools. I would argue the school is actually more responsible in some ways.

wait what?

maybe way back in the days when parents gave permission and full trust to the teacher but in this day and age...? its absolutely the full responsibility of the parent(s) to teach discipline.

Will you allow your child to be spanked if he/she misbehaves in school then? if not then it is your responsibility. we handicap these teachers to the point of inefficacy and you expect them to also control them when they aren't being taught to be behave by their parents? seems really unfair IMO.

and I am not saying you are a bad parent but there are bad parents (or parents who have no time cause they work 2/47) out there who simply don't teach their kids proper manners.