School shooter stopped by good guy with a gun, Dixon IL

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  1. BangersAndSmash

    BangersAndSmash Purple Belt

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    What's wrong with a registry, or requiring a license for firearm use? Such measures are put in place for cars, how is a gun registry any different? What is the actual problem if you're going to use it for legal purposes?

    Passing a range test and basic safety test or whatever it is you have to do to get a concealed carry isn't the same thing as being an effective agent in a school shooting scenario. Legally, the burden placed on an agent of the state is much higher than some joe-schmoe concealed carry citizen. If a teacher accidentally shoots a student for any reason, that school system is going to pay out millions and they just miserably failed one of their students.

    If that teacher passes a strict vetting process and also wants to opt-in to a lot of extra training (and I do mean a lot, like cops are often under trained in this area as well, evidenced by the situation in Florida) then it could be an option. I just don't see it as a very realistic option at all.
     
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    This^^^.

    A cop car circled the track at football games and the police swung by on Friday afternoon to pick up someone just about every week.
     
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  3. Stoic1

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    Registries have a very, very long history of abuse and the eventual outcome is usually confiscation.

    Source?

    HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
     
  4. TrueBias

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    Actually impressed the cop didn't kill him.

    I wonder, i hope psychiatrists are gathering info on these nutty kids so we get a good Netflix doc.
     
  5. Satanical Eve

    Satanical Eve Cro Cop's Left Leg Platinum Member

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    I am all for schools having dedicated SRO's. My high school here on Long Island had them put in place after Columbine. I do not however agree with some people thinking we should arm teachers
     
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  6. BangersAndSmash

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    The system of car tags and title registration we have in the United States hasn't lead to confiscation and I don't foresee that happening.

    How does not having a registry prevent confiscation anyway?
     
  7. Stoic1

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    1) Registration has led to vehicle confiscation. Land Rovers for example.

    2) How many and what kind of guns do I currently own? You don't know. That' s how it prevents confiscation - You don't know. You could know through a FOIA though if they are registered. However. we have, in America, seen registration lead to "reclassification" and bans. Furthermore we have seen confiscations here in America - look up Katrina if you need an example.
     
  8. tramendous

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    Because i dont trust teachers with guns. Their job is to be competent in terms of teaching not using guns and keeping them safely in a classroom. LoL the fuck is wrong with people.
     
  9. oleDirtyBast4rd

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    They arent "teachers with guns" they are "concealed carry holders who happen to be teachers". Surely you understand the difference
     
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    There is no difference.
     
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  11. The ScorpioN

    The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!"

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    You don't think a person can be competent in both, teaching and weapons?
     
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  12. Soul Crusher

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    It does nothing to stop school shootings. Registry is meant for confiscation. They're useless too unless the government is there the moment you die to take your guns
     
  13. tramendous

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    I dont want someone to have to be competent with both. We already have teachers abusing kids and have bad teaching practices. You want them to have guns too? How long before the concealed carry assholes shoots that trouble maker who always freaks out and yells at the teacher.
     
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    Damn dude. Most people I've known are capable of acquiring competency at more than just one thing in life. Take driving for example. I bet most teachers are able to both teach and operate a motor vehicle (which is far more complicated than learning to carry and when to use a firearm).
     
  15. MardyBum

    MardyBum It's Not Easy Being Drunk All The Time.

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    Properly trained not to abuse their power.

    Good luck.
     
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    Actually... there is. CC permits arent handed out like candy in most places
     
  17. tramendous

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  18. Cubo de Sangre

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    And?
     
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  19. tramendous

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    I dont want teachers to have guns in classrooms?
     
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  20. Kafir-kun

    Kafir-kun Three Tailed Pasha

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    Nah, I hate cops and even I see the need for it.
     
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