School shooter stopped by good guy with a gun, Dixon IL | Page 2

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  1. ndwolfwood Rue and Lament It

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    I think the title should read

    "Good Gun Stops Killer"
     
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  3. spamking Proud Okie/Type 01 FFL Dealer

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    Can't disagree with you at all . . . other than replacing twitter with all social media in general.
     
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    Strange then that you only mention two things that wouldn't ensure that at all.
     
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  5. spamking Proud Okie/Type 01 FFL Dealer

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    There are definitely pros and cons for arming teachers . . . some could handle it and others have no business doing it.

    Proper storage to prevent theft would help . . . or discourage theft. Improved data sharing would be better as well . . . it would speed up both approvals and denials.

    Better enforcement of existing laws and improving physical security at schools would also help things out a bunch too IMO.
     
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  7. ndwolfwood Rue and Lament It

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    That's the problem. None of these cowards have the temerity to exterminate the life force of the very evil that they teach.
     
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    We're less than 5 years from television media turning half the country onto a pro-school-shooting candidate. The ratings would be ridiculous.
     
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  9. BangersAndSmash Green Belt

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    I just don't see it as a very realistic option. Obviously you'd need to require the teachers to be very well trained. If part of their job is defending the school from an assailant, then they'd need not only range practice, but threat assessment and situation training. It's well and good to point to a concealed carry permit holder, but the reality is that a teacher is a representative of the state and therefore much more legally liable if they pull out their gun.

    I think some teachers would prove reliable, but I also feel that the extra training and logistics render the idea pretty impractical. I'd rather just have another resource officer instead, and keep the teachers teaching and the resource officers performing their job.
     
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    I'm not sure you could say that about each and every teacher . . . I'm sure that would describe many though.
     
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  11. spamking Proud Okie/Type 01 FFL Dealer

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    More resource officers and improved hardening of physical security measures would be my preference . . . arm a teacher or two as a last resort. I'd see it like an Air Marshal. Nobody would know.
     
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    Dana Loesch just creamed her panties.


    God bless.
     
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  13. BangersAndSmash Green Belt

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    I'd be fine with the resource officers and even some physical security measures such as metal detectors or whatever. I just would prefer to see some changes at purchasing level (such as more thorough background checks) and storage level (stricter guidelines for theft prevention or harsher punishments if your gun is stolen and used in a crime, assuming you weren't Ocean 11ed or some shit of course) as well.

    Let's face it, mass shooters don't just shoot up schools, and I'd rather see some measures that prevent those individuals from ever getting their hands on a gun.
     
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  15. spamking Proud Okie/Type 01 FFL Dealer

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    I'd hope most folks would be . . .

    The checks are fine now in my opinion . . . it's the data sharing that could make them even better.

    Can't get on board with this . . . sorry. There is no way to enforce any of it without a registry.

    They shoot up "gun free zones" . . . removing them would be a great first step as well.
     
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    Name one
     
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    Every school should have multiple resource officers.
     
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    My high school had security guards back in the late eighties because of the threat of gang violence. It's a lot easier to hire armed guards than it is to denude the population of their civil rights. So let's do it. As far as armed teachers go, if a teacher wants to carry, let them. If they don't, then they don't have to. It's a no-brainer. Maybe give them a little extra in the paycheck or something if they do.
     
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    k I can see a cop being there. But a teacher? fuck that shit.
     
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  20. IngaVovchanchyn Steel Belt

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    It' not shit, it's common sense. If a teacher has a concealed carry license and can pass a basic test, why wouldn't we want them to carry at school? If it saves even one life, amiright?
     
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