I'm sure when Bonds was on the gas that all those poor pitchers that had to face him were just natty dudes that got there with good old fashioned hard work and protein shakes.Bonds probably would've struggled to hit 500 homeruns without steroids. Go look at his first six or seven years in the league. Bonds was great before the steroids but not as a power hitter, he was great because he was a five tool player
I don't know much about baseball but have read and watched lot about babeI thought I saw historians cite something was different back then like maybe shittier overworked pitchers where there wasn't 5 man rotations and maybe larger ballparks. The HR totals per player per season were really low back then.
Bonds clean be same?I'm sure when Bonds was on the gas that all those poor pitchers that had to face him were just natty dudes that got there with good old fashioned hard work and protein shakes.
Can't discredit babe thoughHe was so far above the competition because the competition was a joke.
Babe a natural then?Ruth probably would’ve struggled to hit 500 home runs if 90% of the players didn’t get hammered during games. He also may have hit 800 if he wasn’t a drunken fatass as well.
Someone else already pointed out he dominated in a time when players were drinking/smoking during games, didn't face non-white competition, didn't face finely tuned athletes of today. It's a different game. He was also bigger than the other players. I'm talking physical size. If I played against elementary school kids, I'd probably bat .900 with 90% of my hits being homeruns.I don't know much about baseball but have read and watched lot about babe
Imo greatest and in cleanest era
Really? He get destroyed today ?Someone else already pointed out he dominated in a time when players were drinking/smoking during games, didn't face non-white competition, didn't face finely tuned athletes of today. It's a different game. He was also bigger than the other players. I'm talking physical size. If I played against elementary school kids, I'd probably bat .900 with 90% of my hits being homeruns.
Also, I thought I saw somewhere the early days ballparks didn't even have boundary fences.
I didn't say that. Perhaps pitchers and specialist relief pitchers would study video and tendencies and shut him down a bit. He sure ain't going to stand out so far from everyone else. I do believe some modern star players could put up huge numbers if they played in Babe's era. The modern game is probably more cerebral and refined than in the old days. Even with baseball bats, I cannot imagine the old bats being as carefully crafted as modern bats.Really? He get destroyed today ?
I didn't say that. Perhaps pitchers and specialist relief pitchers would study video and tendencies and shut him down a bit. He sure ain't going to stand out so far from everyone else. I do believe some modern star players could put up huge numbers if they played in Babe's era. The modern game is probably more cerebral and refined than in the old days. Even with baseball bats, I cannot imagine the old bats being as carefully crafted as modern bats.
I'm thinking a guy like Rickey Henderson with leadoff power and base stealing could win games by himself.
Is it like royce with today's training ?I didn't say that. Perhaps pitchers and specialist relief pitchers would study video and tendencies and shut him down a bit. He sure ain't going to stand out so far from everyone else. I do believe some modern star players could put up huge numbers if they played in Babe's era. The modern game is probably more cerebral and refined than in the old days. Even with baseball bats, I cannot imagine the old bats being as carefully crafted as modern bats.
I'm thinking a guy like Rickey Henderson with leadoff power and base stealing could win games by himself.
How heavy was Barry Bonds' bat during his big time HR days? I think he choked the bat too.He used like a 42oz bat or something lol.. I think the average in today’s mlb is around 30.
Royce was NOT an impressive physical specimen, which was why he was selected for UFC 1. If GSP was in UFC 1, he would have wrecked everyone.Is it like royce with today's training ?
Why does babe get shit on for being in old eraRoyce was NOT an impressive physical specimen, which was why he was selected for UFC 1. If GSP was in UFC 1, he would have wrecked everyone.
Babe was a large dude, who may have been part black, playing against only whites who may not have been dedicated like modern athletes with respect to strength and conditioning.
Think of it like an elite college baseball player competing against shitty high school players or something like that.