For those of you claiming that GSP did plan to defend the title | Page 3

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by IamStryker, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:39 AM.

  1. IamStryker Red Belt

    IamStryker
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    6,481
    Your first post was a short insult and you think I am emotionally invested? Really?

    Defending myself doesn't mean I am upset lol.
     
    #41
  2. krelianx Silver Belt

    krelianx
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2002
    Messages:
    11,539
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    Location:
    Los Angeles, California
    That was excessively hostile of me, you're right. So I apologize.But you do seem to be getting a bit too riled up. Just relax and don't get too perturbed by Sherdog. It's not important.
     
    #42
  3. turbotime Blue Belt

    turbotime
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2017
    Messages:
    791
    Likes Received:
    914
  4. IamStryker Red Belt

    IamStryker
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    6,481
    Of course. This is just for fun.
     
    #44
  5. Ozze Brown Belt

    Ozze
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2014
    Messages:
    4,239
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Location:
    São Paulo, Brazil
    To be honest this kind of kills the whole "two division champ" thing.

    In paper, yes, he is. But it feels more like GSP, the former WW champion who beat MW champion Bisping.
    But if you don't defend it you can't really say you were the king of the division.

    Conor didn't defend the FW belt, but a least he beat a whole lot of guys in the division.
     
    #45
  6. NRG Green Belt

    NRG
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Messages:
    1,384
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    I'm not annoyed, I'm not starting threads while fuming in my chair, just free advice.

    Take care.
     
    #46
  7. IamStryker Red Belt

    IamStryker
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    6,481
    I'm completely relaxed so your advice was not remotely needed. Not sure why starting threads is such a problem nowadays.
     
    #47
  8. SubmarinerX Soldier of God

    SubmarinerX
    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    155
    Likes Received:
    303
    Whittaker was injured.

    And GSP is as scared of bigger fighters as is every single champ (Andy, Jones, DJ, TJ, Cruz, Conor, Ferguson). It's why they pick a weight class. Sorry that your favorite fighter never made it in two weight classes and was caught with roids, I assume.
     
    #48
  9. NRG Green Belt

    NRG
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    Messages:
    1,384
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    Yes, we know

    lol
     
    #49
  10. Myrddin Wild Lets enjoy our time together!

    Myrddin Wild
    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2016
    Messages:
    14,100
    Likes Received:
    48,953
    Location:
    The Legion of Groove ~~~~~Lounge~~~~~
    I'm not hearing the evidence. I heard him say he "originally wanted" to fight Bisping & then move down... but he continued to say that it was in his contract to fight twice at MW, so his intention was to do that. (not word for word... but that's what he was saying)
     
    #50
    DocK likes this.
  11. MaiThai Personal Space

    MaiThai
    Joined:
    May 18, 2013
    Messages:
    125
    Likes Received:
    142
    Location:
    My personal space
    he'll say whatever's convenient at the moment
     
    #51
  12. IamStryker Red Belt

    IamStryker
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    6,481
    They were planning for them to fight long before.

    Not scared to fight Bisping though? I don't get why fans are ok with calling a guy a two division champion but then also saying that it's ok for him to leave the division because he is too small. How can he be a MW champion if he is scared of fighting the real MW's? No I don't care about Silva.
     
    #52
  13. IamStryker Red Belt

    IamStryker
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    6,481
    Apparently we heard the same thing but have different conclusions.
     
    #53
    Myrddin Wild likes this.
  14. Myrddin Wild Lets enjoy our time together!

    Myrddin Wild
    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2016
    Messages:
    14,100
    Likes Received:
    48,953
    Location:
    The Legion of Groove ~~~~~Lounge~~~~~
    Well, it certainly "leads" to the conclusion the he "intended" to do that all along. That mixed in with a convenient health concern that he pretty much said is due to him packing on extra weight & his body didn't respond well to it. It certainly does "seem" to be that his intention was to come down before fighting at MW twice.

    That said, it's not "proof." He clearly said in the interview that his "intention" was to fight twice at MW because that's what his contract said. There also is the possibility that the health concern came up after he signed the contract & is legit.

    So there's no "proof." There's only "hard speculation."

    That's all I'm saying. When I saw the thread title & Op I thought "hey, lets check this out, maybe someone found some proof." There is no "proof" presented though.
     
    #54
    Chicken lips likes this.
  15. Seven30 Brown Belt

    Seven30
    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    458
    Location:
    Parts Unknown
    IMO, the evidence was that he accepted the bout against Bisping, when he could have elected to come back & fight for the MW title at any point. Never had any doubt that he would abruptly abandon the division at the first hint at facing an actual top 5 MW.
     
    #55
  16. Rigoletto Double Yellow Card

    Rigoletto
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2017
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    264
    gsp is a damn duck and this whole colitis thing is a farce so he doesn’t have to defend that belt. He only came back to fight the weakest champ the ufc has ever seen. Ducking ass duck.
     
    #56
  17. wompuscatwilly Purple Belt

    wompuscatwilly
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,694
    Likes Received:
    491
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    This is what he claimed for years whenever the subject of fighting Silva would come up. He would say that he would want to take time to gain the weight and then stay there because of the health issues of moving back and forth between weights.
     
    #57
    Moonwalker95 likes this.
  18. IamStryker Red Belt

    IamStryker
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2013
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    6,481
    I think you need to listen to it again. He said he originally planned to win the MW belt and then move down. That's his words. That was no longer the current plan because it was in his contract that he had to defend it. So he was leading people to believe then that he would defend because he had to defend.
     
    #58
    Myrddin Wild likes this.
  19. Myrddin Wild Lets enjoy our time together!

    Myrddin Wild
    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2016
    Messages:
    14,100
    Likes Received:
    48,953
    Location:
    The Legion of Groove ~~~~~Lounge~~~~~
    Respectably... You can't pick out one piece of an interview & hold it under a microscope without showing the context in which it was spoken.

    Yes, it is a fact that he said he "originally" wanted to beat Bisping & then drop down... but immediately BEFORE & AFTER he said that... he made it clear that his goal was changed to fighting at MW twice.

    All GSP said in this video is that his intention changed when he signed the contract. Nothing more. There is absolutely no "Proof" that his intention was to dishonor his contract within this interview... ie... no proof that his intention was never to fight at MW twice.

    Now from there... we can argue that maybe or maybe not he signed that contract with no intention of honoring it... but that is speculation... not "proof."
     
    #59
  20. Jesse James Chastity Belt

    Jesse James
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2007
    Messages:
    10,205
    Likes Received:
    486
    Location:
    3rd Planet from the Sun
    I read your comment.....which was rambling and childish....The following is your original asinine statement - 'God forbid Whittaker fight Bisping. Gotta have a circus fight first so that GSP fans can call him a two division champion forever even though he is scared of the real MW's." You called him a Circus Fighter, and inferred that he is a coward and afraid of Middleweights....Yet he fought the middleweight champion and did exactly what he said he would do... So you mentioned weight class, you called him a coward, and now are trying to tell me...."Learn to read"....? You must have the memory span of a doorknob, and certainly the intelligence of one...
     
    #60

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "fd5733925866a04e50edd70f38dfaa35"
monitoring_string = "603ac9fff68f23709f2a42bf5e29272b"