Anybody else critical of their race etc because people will judge your whole people because of it?

[FrankensteinMMA]

I’m a right wing white make and if I saw that I would think that guy is an idiot but I would not think anything about race, because right wing white makes aren’t racist we’re individualist. Only racist liberals say we are racist. Don’t believe the stereotypes.

Racism is a group concept and only works for collectivist politics that are left wing, like socialism. That’s why leftists see every issue as a race issue, they believe in racism and are racist themselves. They like to celebrate some racss and put others down. It’s really quite silly. In time everyone will be the same race anyway and we will find some other way to be stupid to each other such as hair color.

literaly every....and i mean..EVERY far right winger who is white that i know is pro white and think whites are in the end the best compared to other races.

they might not want to enslave other races but truly believe whites are the more evolved.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

So.... is the assumption that all whites are racist a part of this "white privilege" you guys are always talking about?

Sort of on topic, some South African blacks (when in positions of earned authority) can be really, really hard on their fellows. Sometimes it's just tribal issues, but when I was working as a ranger, our Sergeant was ridiculously hard on the other black guys and I asked one of them about it when we were on patrol together. He made a similar point to the one in the OP - that Sergeant Zorro (Yes, really) was embarrassed and felt that it reflected badly on him when other blacks were incompetent, etc.

Personally, I wish whites would stop jumping onto the bandwagon of every cause that makes them feel warm, fuzzy and morally superior - it makes me look bad in front of the races with common sense and self-respect.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

you sound like an uncle tomas

He (Leroy Jenkins) sounds like he's 14 years old with very little life experience.

literaly every....and i mean..EVERY far right winger who is white that i know is pro white and think whites are in the end the best compared to other races.

they might not want to enslave other races but truly believe whites are the more evolved.

He said right wing white, not far right wing white.

And wow you know a bunch of far righters? You in the south? I've never met one.

 

[PlayswellwithLawnDarts]

Wasn’t the bread in a plastic bag?

 

[TheGreatA]

Whatever prompts a man to be more critical of the actions of himself and his peers, is generally for the good. Even if it is "racial insecurity". It's still a better alternative to not giving a fuck about how people behave themselves.

However, there's a point where a man needs to be able to suspend their self-criticism and self-awareness for a minute, and let some things be. That point is usually reached when you blame yourself for other people's actions. Can't allow yourself to be broken up, and your actions dictated, by other people's (deemed) judgment. You should be more concerned about your own judgment. If your judgment is completely dictated by that of others, then you do not truly possess a legitimate moral compass.

In a society where basically everybody is a Finn, you don't really think of a guy acting stupid as your "own". But in a foreign country, if a Finn is behaving themselves like an idiot, the tendency to feel embarrassed about a countryman's actions are higher. The likelihood of trying to "straighten out my own", would certainly be higher in a foreign country, than in Finland. It just makes sense that you're more individually responsible for how your community behaves, and how they are esteemed by others, when you're essentially acting as visitors/guests.

If two parents brings their family to visit someone else's household, they're also more likely to be stricter with their children than otherwise. You want to leave a good impression. And it's not just about "fakeness" and inauthenticity, as some people might say, but about wanting to visit again without prejudice being passed down on people like yourself, or myself.

However, if you've lived in a country for generations upon generations, and still have a tendency to think of yourself as a visitor, rather than a host, then there's probably something wrong with that. That's why I'm not a big fan of the multi-cultural model because it often brings people up to think of themselves as mere "guests" to a society and a state. Extorting them, and enforcing their behavioural and thinking patterns, and demanding them to work with fewer privileges, is a lot easier than it is with a group of people who believe that they truly belong to where they are at, without having to prove themselves every second of their life to the rest of the society.

Thinking of yourself as an insecure guest rather than a secure host, is more preferable to the global free market capitalist model though, and that's why it is generally preferred that a nation consists of people with a guest mentality rather than a host mentality, these days. Nobody can be allowed to get too comfortable in their skin, not even the majority populations. That's the world we're increasingly starting to head towards, with all the symbolism, structures and traditions which encourage people to adopt a "host mentality", being gradually eroded, replaced by the feebleness and insecurity of a "guest's" existence.

 

[Deleted member 391673]

I found myself, doing this twice today......1st some Mexican guy(Could've been some other latino but whatever lol) dropped some bread on the floor and put it back on the shelf....I didn't see but my dad saw and told me afterwards, I immediately thought that guy makes us look bad(I told my dad he should've said something but I understand why he didn't, it was quick thing and you don't know if people are hotheads and shit)......2nd I went to see overboard in Spanish today, right behind us, there was kids talking/standing and acting like kids, the parent didn't do shit.....Personally it didn't affect me but I knew that if some white people(Not saying all white people, Some white people) were there, they would be rustled beyond belief and they would hold it against Mexicans lol.


I was like "these people make us look bad, I know if any right wing white saw this, he will judge all Mexicans based on these idiots"....

I feel as a Minority, I know people will use 1 bad experience and judge us all because of it...This doesn't just go for white people, people in general tend to judge ASAP based on one experience.


So when I see a Mexican do something unacceptable, it offends me way more....I feel that it's just ammunition to use against me.....Also I don't do this to other races....If a White/black/asian/etc fucks up, I don't hold it against their whole people.


I know that I have nothing in common with the 2 persons I saw today, except I'm Mexican.....but that commonality, is enough for people to judge me based on something I never did.

So it got me thinking.........Do white people think this about their own white people? Do other minorities think like this?


I don't want to think like this, but sadly this is how America is at the moment because of how quickly they judge.


Maybe Im racist agaisnt Mexicans/myself ...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............Maybe the racist have won if I think like this?

you value/respect your culture and ethnicity so you feel the need to be harder on those in your culture/ethnicity who you feel don't live up to a higher standard,

but trash is everywhere in all colors and others who are quick to judge will blanket the whole race.

be the best and most decent human and mexican and american you can be, don't apologize on behalf of others.

you're not racist but prideful about your heritage.

 

[jamel]

Once read a thread on a now defunct hip hop forum where a brother felt the need to dress up in polo's and button ups just to check his fucking mail.


Yea... The struggle is real.

 

[esotamoc]

Not in my own country Australia. But when living in Japan and seeing westerners acting like cnuts I felt like saying something but never did. The japanese jtend to judge all western looking foreigners as the same.

 

[panamaican]

I'm critical of poor behavior no matter who does it but I am aware that if it's a black or Hispanic person then some people will extend their criticism to all black or Hispanic people.

An interesting anecdote, growing up my Dad made us aware that if we wandered the streets with a basketball in hand it would play into certain stereotypical expectations of black kids being more interested in sports than school.

I was in NYC over the weekend and saw numerous Asian and SE Asian kids wandering the streets with basketballs, dribbling and doing ball tricks on the sidewalk. I wondered if their parents ever tell them not to carry basketballs so that people don't draw the wrong conclusion about them. And, by extension, what actions do they tell their kids not to do so as to not lend strength to negative stereotypes.

 

[Sansnom]

TS looks like one of these guys who always blame it on race.

This white guy just frowned at me, it must be because of my race.

This girl didn't say hello to me, she must be racist.

 

[GOATER]

Can you see the irony in betting that white people will engage in blanket racial stereotyping?

Yes I can...btw when I say white peo0le, I dont mean all, but I come to the war room, I read the internet, and I know people.

All people judge people quickly, regardless of race...Mexicans included...So Im not saying judging quickly, its a white trait, its a human trait.

Knowing the anti-Mexican rhetoric in modern times....knowing there is a good chunk of whites who already dont like mexicans...knowing mosy people judge asap, and whites are the majority.

I know, that if anybody were to get a racial idea from a Mexican fucking up, it would be a white person.


Again, Im not saying all whites think liike this...but I know human nature and the current political climate.

 

[Rod1]

Of course, im always a critic of my country.

Thats why in every mexican news about people doing shitty stuff my first comment is always "Por eso gano Trump".

But then again, some stuff is really hilarious.

 

[Rod1]

I dont see it as a race issue, but as an education and culture issue.

 

[jamel]

Thread can be summed up with the Double Toasted Steve Harvey Gets Mad on Family Fued, video.

 

[Trotsky]

So.... is the assumption that all whites are racist a part of this "white privilege" you guys are always talking about?

I almost never see liberals, leftists, etc. talk about "white privilege" on this site, or in discourse generally. It's gotten to the point where the term is used almost exclusively by white conservatives to misstate its implication and further the narrative of white victimhood. "White privilege" is a real phenomenon and could have been a useful concept in public discourse, but it's gotten to the point that it's basically been ruined and evacuated of all meaning by the right wing.

Personally, I wish whites would stop jumping onto the bandwagon of every cause that makes them feel warm, fuzzy and morally superior - it makes me look bad in front of the races with common sense and self-respect.

I think white folks have the same level of common sense and self-respect as any other race. To hold otherwise just seems silly. Black, brown, yellow, red - all people are capable of empathy and of mobilizing in defense of their fellow man.

 

[GOATER]

So you pretty much got an inferiority complex about your race and fixate on dumb shit most people likely arent even thinking about . Then you proceed to stereotype other people over worry you're being stereotyped,

Dios fucking mio bruh.

Except they do talk about it...I read the internet and hear singular bad stories, all the time to justify racism.

All people judge way too quickly, including whites....so Knowing this is human nature, knowing whites are the majority, and knowing the current political climate....I think its rational to think some whites think like this.

 

[GOATER]

I’m a right wing white make and if I saw that I would think that guy is an idiot but I would not think anything about race, because right wing white makes aren’t racist we’re individualist. Only racist liberals say we are racist. Don’t believe the stereotypes.

Racism is a group concept and only works for collectivist politics that are left wing, like socialism. That’s why leftists see every issue as a race issue, they believe in racism and are racist themselves. They like to celebrate some racss and put others down. It’s really quite silly. In time everyone will be the same race anyway and we will find some other way to be stupid to each other such as hair color.

LMFAO.

Go to 4chan/youtube comments etc...where real right wing whites reside.....one of their biggest fear is that Mexicans come and dont adapt to American society...theu are judging a whole people based on 1 or 2 bad news stories or experiences...so please stfu with your bullshit bro.


I know exactly how right wingers think.

 

[GOATER]

So.... is the assumption that all whites are racist a part of this "white privilege" you guys are always talking about?

Sort of on topic, some South African blacks (when in positions of earned authority) can be really, really hard on their fellows. Sometimes it's just tribal issues, but when I was working as a ranger, our Sergeant was ridiculously hard on the other black guys and I asked one of them about it when we were on patrol together. He made a similar point to the one in the OP - that Sergeant Zorro (Yes, really) was embarrassed and felt that it reflected badly on him when other blacks were incompetent, etc.

Personally, I wish whites would stop jumping onto the bandwagon of every cause that makes them feel warm, fuzzy and morally superior - it makes me look bad in front of the races with common sense and self-respect.

Again, I never said all whites are racist.


Read what I said...Human nature is judging fast....and I know the current political climate, and America is full of white people....So I know a White will most likely judge a race based on 1 bad experience.

I seen Mexicans do the exact same shit.....so this is human nature, since people are idiots.

I know that some whites wont judge a whole people based on a persons action.....but I know other whites will.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

I almost never see liberals, leftists, etc. talk about "white privilege" on this site, or in discourse generally.

Admittedly, it only comes from obvious trolls on this site... Though, if you couldn't spot a touch of the troll in my post, I think it is time to step away from the war room for a bit.

Beyond that, really? You never (or almost never) see white privilege being discussed except by complaining conservatives?
Having trouble believing that.

It's gotten to the point where the term is used almost exclusively by white conservatives to misstate its implication and further the narrative of white victimhood. "White privilege" is a real phenomenon and could have been a useful concept in public discourse, but it's gotten to the point that it's basically been ruined and evacuated of all meaning by the right wing.

This is a mixed bag.
I agree that there is definitely a level to which white privilege exists.
I disagree that the american right ruined it as an idea worth discussing.
it was poisoned as a topic by the American left. Not least of all by popularising the term "white privilege" in the first place, as opposed to something more accurate and less intentionally divisive.
The phrase was conversationally weaponised by the left, and generally spat out by left-leaning ideologues who themselves often didn't know what they were saying, beyond signalling their virtue and managing to shame their opposition with the bluff.

No doubt, the right has run with it and is now building strawmen And trollbait out of 2016's talking points...

I think white folks have the same level of common sense and self-respect as any other race. To hold otherwise just seems silly. Black, brown, yellow, red - all people are capable of empathy and of mobilizing in defense of their fellow man.

Lol.
I doubt there are studies on this, but I'm pretty sure whites are the most widely represented protest/rally-attendees of all the peoples.

Also, "in defense of their fellow man"?
Notice, I did not specify the nature of the cause? Just that they make people feel warm and fuzzy. You're assuming that I'm deriding the defense of someone's fellow man. I'm not.

Anyway, this statement was just a badly delivered joke. Chill yerself.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Again, I never said all whites are racist.


Read what I said...Human nature is judging fast....and I know the current political climate, and America is full of white people....So I know a White will most likely judge a race based on 1 bad experience.

I seen Mexicans do the exact same shit.....so this is human nature, since people are idiots.

I know that some whites wont judge a whole people based on a persons action.....but I know other whites will.

Fair enough. I jumped the gun.
Apologies.

I think when I made that post I may have been itching for a fight i'm no longer looking for.