Anybody else critical of their race etc because people will judge your whole people because of it?

Not really. Of course I think of my ancestrial heritage as German, and my nationality as American.

My guess is that your kids being 2nd generation, will care far less about this. That like myself, their ancestrial heritage will be more a conceptual idea, then a tangible one.
 
Trotsky said:
You mean he's self-aware.

Granted, yes, that self-awareness and capacity for existential anxiety may well be the biggest predictor of being progressive. Generally, conservatives seem to be pretty damn self-unaware and uncritical.
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What on earth? Conservatives take responsibility for their actions. how could they possibly be self unaware?
 
My race is too complicated and pointless to worry about in daily life, my appearance fits a group so most do not consider race unless I talk about it, and the culture, or rather multiple cultures is subtly a part of my life.

All good.

I have experienced people being positive about my apparent race, naive, negative, and deeply racist, as well as occasionally pathologically racist although that has been very rare.

No problem, that's just how people are, we make assumptions about cultural groups based on looks, and in the past on skin color.
 
What do you mean by "critical of your race?" I don't see race as something easily criticized. Do you mean the stereotypical behavior of a certain ace? Imo, you're on a slippery slope for sure if an entire race is irritating you.
 
IngaVovchanchyn said:
What do you mean by "critical of your race?" I don't see race as something easily criticized. Do you mean the stereotypical behavior of a certain ace? Imo, you're on a slippery slope for sure if an entire race is irritating you.
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For Example.

Lets say a white guy was talking loud during a movie...I would be like "wow what a dick"


Now lets say, it was a Mexican guy who was talking loud during a movie......I would be like "Wow this guy is making us look bad, I bet white people will judge all Mexicans because of that guy"
 
non whites dont hold their own race accountable enough. you cant blame everything on whites.

you cant expect whites to fix everything without non whites doing their part to fix their own communities.

you are doing good and should be proud of your actions.
 
GOATER said:
For Example.

Lets say a white guy was talking loud during a movie...I would be like "wow what a dick"


Now lets say, it was a Mexican guy who was talking loud during a movie......I would be like "Wow this guy is making us look bad, I bet white people will judge all Mexicans because of that guy"
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It's a good point, and imagine how much worse the cultural influence might be on the narrow minded if he was speaking too loud in Spanish.

Although, we would find another cultural factor to blame if he was white.

- That A-hole must be a redneck. (Maybe a Trump voter...)

- That A-hole must be from south Jersey. (Maybe a Hillary voter at that...)

- That A-hole is someone I really do not like and do not like the associations of.
 
FrankensteinMMA said:
non whites dont hold their own race accountable enough. you cant blame everything on whites.

you cant expect whites to fix everything without non whites doing their part to fix their own communities.

you are doing good and should be proud of your actions.
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But being proud is the problem not the solution.

If someone is proud and I say "you have a problem" is the reaction going to be contrite, or to double down on pride since I questioned their "honor"?

White, Hispanic, or otherwise?

Pride in what you are doing taken as a positive is all right, but taken with a group, and to my own actions without a governing truth is just my, or your ego doing the talking.

That is more likely to end in a fight than changing someone's mind about their actions.

"You have a problem..." - defenses activated.

"Would you please consider my feelings?" - hmm, he may have a point after all...

and that goes both ways, for minorities who do not like their treatment, and dominant white culture. There is so much for all of us to learn, but we are growing more impatient everyday.
 
GOATER said:
For Example.

Lets say a white guy was talking loud during a movie...I would be like "wow what a dick"


Now lets say, it was a Mexican guy who was talking loud during a movie......I would be like "Wow this guy is making us look bad, I bet white people will judge all Mexicans because of that guy"
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Can you see the irony in betting that white people will engage in blanket racial stereotyping?
 
I don't think so but it's very different for a non minority.
 
GOATER said:
For Example.

Lets say a white guy was talking loud during a movie...I would be like "wow what a dick"


Now lets say, it was a Mexican guy who was talking loud during a movie......I would be like "Wow this guy is making us look bad, I bet white people will judge all Mexicans because of that guy"
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So you pretty much got an inferiority complex about your race and fixate on dumb shit most people likely arent even thinking about . Then you proceed to stereotype other people over worry you're being stereotyped,

Dios fucking mio bruh.
 
LEGS MAHONEY said:
So you pretty much got an inferiority complex about your race and fixate on dumb shit most people likely arent even thinking about . Then you proceed to stereotype other people over worry you're being stereotyped,

Dios fucking mio bruh.
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Shoot man, is that really fair?

It's cliche that we do not understand other people's lives, but also true.

If you're white, you do not face the same group pressure over race, culture, "my people," and while I believe it is better to get away from culture having so much power the pressure still exists.

If you are Chinese for example, your family and friends will dominate your thinking for example, because that is the way you were given to live.

The way may be wrong, immoral, and redundant, but you must replace that with another way, and need considerate people to help.

"What man can make himself?" The answer rings out forever, "none."

We ought to be considerate then about people's feelings, if we are going to to be tough but understanding to change those feelings.
 
Cultural shame and sense of honor/dignity makes more sense than racial. Holding your own culture(s) (or family, business, village, locale, country, etc.) to a high standard is kind of what makes the whole thing work in a society
 
InternetHero said:
Shoot man, is that really fair?

It's cliche that we do not understand other people's lives, but also true.

If you're white, you do not face the same group pressure over race, culture, "my people," and while I believe it is better to get away from culture having so much power the pressure still exists.

If you are Chinese for example, your family and friends will dominate your thinking for example, because that is the way you were given to live.

The way may be wrong, immoral, and redundant, but you must replace that with another way, and need considerate people to help.

"What man can make himself?" The answer rings out forever, "none."

We ought to be considerate then about people's feelings, if we are going to to be tough but understanding to change those feelings.
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bruh im a tall pasty semi ginger spaniard in america i dont wanna hear any of you bitches whining because im like blade the vampire hunter up in this bitch . to alot of white people im not white and to alot of latinos im not hispanic so i fit in neither world but im not freaking out over jose knocking some bread over at safeway.


and the pressure only exists if you allow it too or more accurately you suffer from the same psychosis the ts does where youre convinced people are continually judging you.
 
Since I'm biracial, does that mean I have to be critical of two races? If so, that is highly discriminatory that I have to put twice the energy and workload into it? Or does it suffice to be critical of Colin Cap-a-nick?
 
LEGS MAHONEY said:
bruh im a tall pasty semi ginger spaniard in america i dont wanna hear any of you bitches whining because im like blade the vampire hunter up in this bitch . to alot of white people im not white and to alot of latinos im not hispanic so i fit in neither world but im not freaking out over jose knocking some bread over at safeway.


and the pressure only exists if you allow it too or more accurately you suffer from the same psychosis the ts does where youre convinced people are continually judging you.
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The pressure may influence us in other undue ways, we are all complicated, and maybe others are not wise enough to see what you see, and yet maybe we are not wise enough to see many things they do.

I would bet we all have a unique perspective that is worth hearing, and worth trying to understand, appreciate, and help those who need help in the best way for them, not I.
 
I’m a right wing white make and if I saw that I would think that guy is an idiot but I would not think anything about race, because right wing white makes aren’t racist we’re individualist. Only racist liberals say we are racist. Don’t believe the stereotypes.

Racism is a group concept and only works for collectivist politics that are left wing, like socialism. That’s why leftists see every issue as a race issue, they believe in racism and are racist themselves. They like to celebrate some racss and put others down. It’s really quite silly. In time everyone will be the same race anyway and we will find some other way to be stupid to each other such as hair color.
 
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